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Payment Dispute with DedicatServer.RO
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to your surprise yes ...to the owner
you received selectively without payments to dedicatserver.ro.....
month after month...
If the information, addresses, names, and everything else is valid then apologies for my speculation and previous statement.
(Can I get someone @DP or @Arkas do me a solid and strikeout my previous statement after "because lol" https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3586300/#Comment_3586300 ?)
This then brings it back to "well then you just jumped the gun and too accusatory". The only thing this changes is dedicatserver's accusation to you giving false information. Which still (imho) doesn't tip it in your favor. But hey I'm just one person in the public.
Done.
I'm not the owner. And now, thanks to you, I know who @jsg actually is, where he lives, his name and at least 2 of his private emails, all info that I didn't know before. I'm sure I am not the only one, I was fast in removing the info, but hey, I don't work at the speed of light so it took me a few minutes. What you did was despicable, and I would NEVER recommend you as a provider to anyone.
He's the owner. He explained that "I am no longer active in the company" statement doesn't mean not connected with the company I think.
I Never ask for !!!
Yeah and I think what @Arkas meant when he said "I'm not the owner" was that he now knows those details (even without being the owner of the company) because of @dedicatserver_ro's actions.
Ah, okay.
This thing escalated badly.
not posible, but but let me give you credit - i self have more than a googlemail privat acount can you tell me this ( and keep in mind that like admin here you have a lot of concrete information about me )
Doxxing someone is legal as long as we have the data? that's news to me!
Doxxing is not illegal anywhere as long as the data was obtained legally.
Still sharing PII in a forum is just going way too aggressive imo!
In Europe it is illegal for a company or an employee or owner to dox customers private info.
@jsg quite ironic how you have a "hit piece" on crypto in your BIO but in this case, crypto would save you from getting doxxed. but yeah "Cryptocurrency as we know it today, simply cannot work." (joepie91 is wrong about many many things, when I read his article on "VPN's" I was laughing my ass off, this dude mixes opinions with facts)
You should read some lawbooks about EU law, Japanese law, and yes, even Chinese law. Guess what? Doxxing is illegal regardless of how the info was received
That's not true and what "private information" is, vary from country to country as well.
If you cannot prove the data was obtained via illegal means, you won't win a court case (if you went to court over that LOL).
This is escalating to the point of nonsensical, it could have been solved easily but nah let there be drama, and that's what LET is for right? well i don't agree! The way "professional" with 7 years of presence handled the matter was unexpected.
Sorry, no. In fact european companies are even bound to protect private data and "private data/information" is expressly defined in broad terms, incl. data which indirectly risk to identify people. So, actually doxxing is a particularly grave infraction.
Not really. That guy was caught spreading lies and going berserk not for the first time, but yes, that he even went so far as to repeatedly dox me did surprise even me. @Arkas was right, that's absolutely despicable.
Now both parties should sue each other. That will be the perfect closure
In my opinion the Romanian guy was "winning" the argument until he allegedly pulled "private information"(the only information I've seen, was the domain and non-existent ZIP code)
Nope, the allegedly non-existent zip code. That was a lie too. I actually regularly receive (snail) mail to that address.
This is sad, and I agree 100%. Revealing his private info without consent is unacceptable. This has gone down hill into the dumps. Glad you edited the post quickly.
Side question -- as a relatively new member of the forum asking a mod, I am curious how far the mod team typically lets a thread like this go? Isn't doxxing here in this forum a ban-level event? Especially after jsg repeatedly said "no" to revealing info?
I can see a little benefit to letting this thread play out a bit more, as some things have come to light about additional accusations of fake accounts, etc... but I'm curious what is the red line that they can't cross, if not doxxing?
The sad thing is that this could have been solved with a little maturity between the two of them. jsg shouldn't have come out blazing with the words "fraud" and "stealing" in this situation (thank you for changing the thread title), but dedicatedserver_ro's behavior has been immature and unprofessional, and he should never have doxxed like that. That's a total destroyer of trust for a hosting provider IMO.
But then again, you accused him fraud when it was your own fuck up. With a little bit of your personal self awareness this thread wouldn't even exist.
Was it too hard to wait some day or something for billing department to respond regarding your payments by mistake?
Even i use different address (usually nearby) when signing up and it doesn't give the provider my consent to share that with anyone not to mention the "public" and that is what called legit business practices. Just my 2 cents nothing more.
data which does not exist like zip in Germany , or gmail..googlemail ....gmx....yahoo domain is doxxing?....
Look, we value free speech above all, and the general forum line is to be as hands off as possible. This thread remains open in the hope a resolution can be achieved which seems unlikely now so it might be closed. The thread's rapid decent into doxxing territory leaves the possibility for @jsg to sue @dedicatserver_ro in a court of law. If this were to happen, the thread needs to be very carefully handled and closed when the time is 'right' (I have no idea when that is).
Publishing ANY PII is doxing. And btw, stop already your zip-code lie! That zip-code does exist.
I didn't get to see what you posted or not, the point being existence of the said address/pincode is different thing and sharing any PII is considered doxxing imo.
But but but but think about the OP. He was defrauded and what other recourse would someone have?
OP could never have done anything wrong. It's always someone else's fault