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  • @MS said: I can understand why the OP is saying the he/she's been "robbed" of $40.

    You do realise that OP wasn't entitled for a refund at all, right?

  • vinsanrockvinsanrock Member
    edited September 2020

    @SCAM_DONT_BUY so after 4 months, they reduced service quality down like 50 times, im supposed to accept it while they refused to fix it ? is this an acceptable behaviour nowsaday for providers of dedicated servers ?

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  • @vinsanrock said: @SCAM_DONT_BUY so after 4 months, they reduced service quality down like 50 times, im supposed to accept it while they refused to fix it ? is this an acceptable behaviour nowsaday for providers of dedicated servers ?

    Knowing the fact that you didn't order the right server for your needs, I just can't help you. You need a managed service Sir, and some help in choosing the right location.

  • @vinsanrock
    You aren't important enough for them to choose to throttle you specifically, something must have changed with their upstream that affected your AU users negatively. They have limited control over that, and you didn't even give them a chance to try to fix the issue, just asked for a refund months after the grace period has expired.

    If AU bandwidth is oh so important to you, why didn't you go for OVH or Linode? AFAIK, they both have a POP in Sydney.

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  • @SCAM_DONT_BUY do educate me, i was fine with them over 4 months unmanaged, how will managed solution work better ? especially the right location, why is my choice of Los angeles bad ? i chose this location before for over a year without problem at another host, i switched over because of dedicated cpu cores

    Same settings, same OS, same usage pattern, how is 2-3Mbps acceptable to AU sydney from Los angeles and how is it ok that Nexusbyte decided its ok as long as my test with US EU server has no problem ? Its a problem because they advertised Los angeles asia optimized/Australia included, so 2-3 Mbps is not ok

  • vinsanrockvinsanrock Member
    edited September 2020

    @AC_Fan its not like i need 1Gbps to AU, i dont think its wrong to reduce my cost when i dont need massive Gigabits to AU, is 100Mbps too much to ask for Los angel to AU ? I only have 10TB metered per month with them and now i couldnt get over 3Mbps

    Make no mistake, i gave them a chance to fix they just kept on giving me test with non-AU servers which are fine at the time i had server with problem

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited September 2020

    Imagine if it was only the broken speedtest script that said 3Mbps. Cause there is such an issue if youre stupid enough to use speedtest-cli.

  • its unrealistic to expect 100 Mbps from los angeles to australia, think about the distance, even with optimized routes you'll be lucky to get 10 to 13 Mbps which is what i get from singapore to germany, both routes are nearly the same distance.

  • @stefeman i dont wholly trust speedtest but i have real speed issue with my AU users too thats why i tested after being affected. I was with them 4 months and i have never complained about anything before with their tickets

  • Anyone who uses u & ur shouldn't get any refund. >:)

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  • @vinsanrock said:
    @stefeman i dont wholly trust speedtest but i have real speed issue with my AU users too thats why i tested after being affected. I was with them 4 months and i have never complained about anything before with their tickets

    Did you really test with speedtest-cli?

    Was it 3.16 Mbps?

  • should have said that before i pay plus "even if service quality went way downhill to unusable level" no matter what 50/m or 600/yr - 2-3Mbps is fine on 1Gbps shared server :(

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited September 2020

    @vinsanrock said:
    @stefeman i dont wholly trust speedtest but i have real speed issue with my AU users too thats why i tested after being affected. I was with them 4 months and i have never complained about anything before with their tickets

    Its just broken script.

    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/speedtest-cli/+bug/1828929

    Please, use official one from speedtest.net

  • vinsanrockvinsanrock Member
    edited September 2020

    what about if i launch the browser right in the server ? does that bug affect browser too ? i was using latest chrome before Nexusbyte took away my server
    the speed was between 2-3 Mbps fluctuating

  • ur getting too emotional over this. so instead of trying to get things resolved for ur clients, u just burnt the bridge with a reputable provider. good luck with next provider

  • @vinsanrock said: what about if i launch the browser right in the server ? does that bug affect browser too ? i was using latest chrome before Nexusbyte took away my server

    yes, you should never be testing like this. use iperf3 or similar, browser speedtest is absolutely worthless.

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  • No thanks, i wouldn't want to deal with this kind of provider, atm they are holding my data hostage. Thanks i will just ask the next provider to more specific speed promise rather than just "Asia australia...optimized speed"

  • vinsanrockvinsanrock Member
    edited September 2020

    @hzr i also think iperf is better than browser but at that moment i dont know of any server unbiased that i can test agaist. All nexusbytes gave me was against US and EU servers while i still have real speed problem with my AU users, page slow loading, unresponsive at times which only started happening yesterday.

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited September 2020

    If you use used the old speedtest-cli at any system, especially on ubuntu, its 100% guaranteed to fuck up that report.

    This is the only one you should use, and even then you should test at least 2 or more nearby servers.

    https://www.speedtest.net/apps/cli

    This one does not have that 3-4 Mbps upload bug.

    And be sure to run all the commands in that website, including the "sudo apt-get remove speedtest-cli" even though its not bolded white, before you install the new one.

    If you can't do even this much, nobody will ever offer services for you, you can be damn sure of that given the amount of bridge burning and flaming youre doing right now.

    the issue was closed as completed on github but its still in the script.

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  • @stefeman i see but i dont think it applied to me as i tested with about 3 AU sydney servers, 1 US nearby West server, all have 2-3 Mbps upload, mostly stay at 2.xMbps.

    I thought my test maybe not accurate so tested it exactly the same, again, at my home server, speed went over 100Mbps. I setup both servers same way for easy migration, everything same even OS. Thats why i was frustrated, i keep telling them this but they just tell me to test with their US EU script

  • @vinsanrock said:
    @stefeman i see but i dont think it applied to me as i tested with about 3 AU sydney servers, 1 US nearby West server, all have 2-3 Mbps upload, mostly stay at 2.xMbps.

    I thought my test maybe not accurate so tested it exactly the same, again, at my home server, speed went over 100Mbps. I setup both servers same way for easy migration, everything same even OS. Thats why i was frustrated, i keep telling them this but they just tell me to test with their US EU script

    You sure are dense aren't you?

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  • vinsanrockvinsanrock Member
    edited September 2020

    I did this exact speedtest method at first day, it was fine too. All i did to the server was just the old yum update -y, reboot, never did any serious change, even if i did it was at least a month ago and this happened yesterday. I dont want to do this but they kept telling me to test with their US EU servers. How many times do i have to repeat without getting either them or me angry that i have issue with AU users and i dont have any good healthy AU vps to test against.

    Btw any update, serious or not, is applied on all my vpss, including my home, i keep them the same except for password. I tested again in case its not their servers, all my vpss are fine, speed can be dumb at times but they are never under 30Mbps (at busiest time like 7-9pm AU). I have been telling Nexusbyte man i can't get over 3 Mbps to AU plz fix it because i dont have any AU vps to test/MTU or traceroute whatever and my AU users they had been having issues for hours before i tested it, same test, same code every server, just nexusbyte has 2-3Mbps.

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited September 2020

    I forgot to mention that BBR fucks that old script too.

    https://github.com/sivel/speedtest-cli/issues/605

    You use faulty testing methods so nobody gives a shit before you show us the results from official speedtest or multiple iperf3.

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  • @Adam1 said:
    I dont think basing the refund on 10months + 2 free is fair, that's not how it should work.

    But just a second, you're missing something important. What is NexusBytes' return policy? It's clearly stated that it's 48 hours.

    Unless something changed materially in what NexusBytes is offering during the contract period, then the client doesn't have the right to claim any refund whatsoever. When signing up for a yearly deal, the client knows that they are taking a small risk here. In return for that risk, they get a better price.

    At this point, any refund to the client is at the discretion of NexusBytes. I guarantee that many other companies would never even put the possibility of a refund on the table. But NexusBytes is a good company, and clearly cares more about making their clients happy.

    So I don't think your nitpicking of this particular point is fair, given the situation.

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  • @SCAM_DONT_BUY said:

    @MS said: I can understand why the OP is saying the he/she's been "robbed" of $40.

    You do realise that OP wasn't entitled for a refund at all, right?

    Oh, okay. When I read the word prorated in NexusBytes' (quoted) response, I assumed that the OP was eligible for a refund. I'm not against NexusBytes but if the OP is right about his/her 2-3Mbps vs 100-150Mbps rant, and if the provider can't fix this problem or provide the things listed in service specifications then the OP deserves a refund.

  • vinsanrockvinsanrock Member
    edited September 2020

    @stefeman i believe strongly at my speedtest result but i never dismiss your methods. U may have missed my essay part where it says Nexusbytes have closed my account and currently holding my data hostage before my due date, thats even before i opened dispute. Even if i want to test with that method now its not possible

    Im not here to cause damage to anyone but proposing a shorted refund amount and kept on about me having to use their US EU script is unreasonable while i have serious problem with AU end points

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited September 2020

    @vinsanrock Cause you retarded self went and chargebacked instead of waited/negotiated here when your server was working. Once you do that, all discussions between your host and yourself are off.

    @seriesn to make this thread even better and more enjoyable, can you put his IP on clean system and prove him wrong with a legitmate speedtest.net package and iperf3 results.

    I love this drama so much I'll freaking pay for that myself. Just PM me some 20€ invoice for 5 mins of your time.

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  • vinsanrockvinsanrock Member
    edited September 2020

    @stefeman sory for long essay but if u read my initial post, i opened dispute ONLY AFTER Nexusbytes suddenly terminated, jailed or deleted my data already. All because i said i would bring this to third party for resolution which i meant here lowendtalk. Btw you should've got my complete side of story before cursing me, im all for it if its my fault but obviously its not.

    Nexusbytes sent me a separated paypal transaction so it caused 360 to lost 16.x$ to paypal fee instead of refunding directly from initial payment. Accounting issue or not i have never seen anyone does refund like this but this is not main point.

    Btw its not chargeback its a paypal dispute, initiated directly from my paypal account

  • @notarobo said: if u do not send those network test results to nbytes, how they troubleshoot? this is after all unmanaged service right?

    Not taking sides here but if @seriesn is selling AU optimised servers, shouldn't he have a framework inplace to check & report whether the route is optimised or not? Simple Logic

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited September 2020

    @vinsanrock said:
    Btw its not chargeback its a paypal dispute, initiated directly at my paypal account

    Its one and same thing lol.

    I find this much more reputable and consistent explanation of the situation than your wall of text.

    @seriesn said:

    @yokowasis said:

    @vinsanrock said:
    Hello

    I have just been scammed by Nexusbytes out of $40 + $16.x paypal fee and nexusbytes deleted my accounts and server data.

    Who do i contact to get this service provider off this website ? I have all the paypal records and evidences that can convict Nexusbytes of their fault

    @seriesn , anyone selling Popcorn ?

    @t0ny0 said:

    @vinsanrock said:
    Hello

    I have just been scammed by Nexusbytes out of $40 + $16.x paypal fee and nexusbytes deleted my accounts and server data.

    Let me guess. You paid for service, abused it, got your account suspended, and now you're saying you were scammed? Just a wild guess.

    Ahh.....

    I guess if mod choses to split to it's own thread, it's their call. But here you go,

    Hello Friend ( @vinsanrock),

    I kinda figured you would be posting on this forum as well. For the sake of typing, I will refer you as OP for this response,

    Here is the TLDR; version.

    • OP signed up on May 29th, on a customized plan which was quoted @$60/mo or $600/year (essentially 2 months free with 10 months payment, for any math gurus out here).
    • Op opened a ticket yesterday night ~11 am, complaining about very slow network locally and with a specific Aussie provider.

    I just tested to have consistent slow upload speed to various locations (single upload thread)

    I used speedtest.net through your vps to a nearby west los angel server and some in AU Brisbane servers, all had very slow (single thread) upload speed.
    Plz help me fix thanks.

    Please note, OP is connecting from LA. OP claimed that speed test result he checked using speedtest.net was showing drasticly lower single threaded performance.

    • Cool beans. Responded to the OP with in couple of minutes of opening ticket, asking to share IPERF3 result by running a simple command :
    curl -sL yabs.sh | bash -s -- -fg
    

    Since there's no throughput issue on our end and everything looked good. First idea was to see if somehow OP's port speed got limited by some software.

    • Instead of coperating, OP's responded,

    Can you please instead just check the network ? i have not changed any system settings so far over a month, it just happens suddenly now and it really affects the usage that this vps is intended for.

    I have tested with my other vps's, my home server, ONLY this vps has problem. The same test to same destinations were tested during trial time and were fine plz don't make me go around !

    • So I guess additional troubleshooting won't be an option? Cool beans. NP. We still went ahead and provided result from our end from he hostnode OP was on. Result copy pasted from the particular ticket response
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider                  | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                              |                           |                 |
    Bouygues Telecom          | Paris, FR (10G)           | 1.13 Gbits/sec  | 1.25 Gbits/sec
    Online.net                | Paris, FR (10G)           | 1.30 Gbits/sec  | 1.27 Gbits/sec
    WorldStream               | The Netherlands (10G)     | 463 Mbits/sec   | 772 Mbits/sec
    wilhelm.tel               | Hamburg, DE (10G)         | 478 Mbits/sec   | 1.16 Gbits/sec
    Biznet                    | Bogor, Indonesia (1G)     | 704 Mbits/sec   | 461 Mbits/sec
    Hostkey                   | Moscow, RU (1G)           | busy            | 595 Mbits/sec
    Velocity Online           | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 1.54 Gbits/sec  | 2.81 Gbits/sec
    Airstream Comms           | Eau Claire, WI, US (10G)  | 1.76 Gbits/sec  | 2.86 Gbits/sec
    Hurricane Electric        | Fremont, CA, US (10G)     | 6.64 Gbits/sec  | 9.21 Gbits/sec
    
    

    Note: OP's VM was on shared Gbit so some of the result might be "slightly" less vs this. But not as bad as OP claimed on the ticket. Anywho, OP was kind enough to share a screenshot of the result, which of course showed 0 issue and closely mimicked hostnodes result. To which, I was given the most epic response,

    I DO NOT do business with Online.net, WorldStream or some random Velocity so don't ask me to test with them, you sounds just like my previous ISP when i reported speed problem.

    Plz fix the network, Los angeles location cannot accept speed of 2-3Mbps to Brisbane tesltra Australia

    • Alright, OP is getting frustrated. Can't blame him. I would be too, if things weren't as good as I hoped for. Plus networking can be confusing too right? So if I was the OP, I would probably try to work with the provider and assist them with troubleshooting to figure out the root cause. Ya know, MTR, trace etc. But whatever. Everyone has their own way.

    But I wouldn't directly keep on rudely blaming the company who is trying to work with me. But nah, not our friend here. We are the root cause behind him loosing millions and millions of dollar. Cool cool.

    • So I responded to OP and just going to copy paste my response

    Hi <op's name> While I understand your frustration, I honestly believe that you are not being able to gasp how bandwidth throughput and the result works. There's no point of arguing back and forth nor trying to prove each other wrong. The end result will only result in added frustration for you and us. Here are my options for you, - While outside of the norm, based on the initial price quoted ($60/mo), I will be happy to process a prorated refund $360 to your paypal email address: <OP's paypal email address> and schedule termination for the 29th of September. - Migrate your service over to our APAC (Singapore) location. However, please note that the bandwidth cost is much higher over there and your monthly limit will be updated to reflect the adequate amount (5400 GB/month over shared 1Gbps). Please let me know which option works out the best for you and I will process that around 11 AM EDT (September 20th).

    Quick note, OP signed up on May 29th, our refund policy is 48 hours, but anyone that knows me here, knows I don't like to mess with peoples money and I understand $1 is a lot of money is some country.

    • Op agreed to get refunded since the transfer allocation was obviously lower (SG bandwidth is expensive).
    • Cool beans. I will do him a solid. But you know what, I can't just click a refund button now, it would totally mess up the back office book keeping. I mean, we are almost 4 months into the service.

    Fine, sent him a direct payment via PayPal (For math nerds, initial service quote was $60/month or $600/year. Since the service is being canceled before the end of billing term, the refund amount was based on Total amount paid ($600)-Total cost of service for the used up service ($60x4). ). This was also explained to OP.

    • But no sir, our OP wants to get refunded based on the discounted annual rate, while canceling mid cycle and while being out of the refund period.

    • Thanks to years of experience, I had a gut feeling that the OP would try and file a dispute, so like anyone with a decent brain, I sent the money via Paypal as Good purchase and not to "friend", cause ya know, gotta protect my hard earned money.

    • Lo and behold, PayPal dispute.

    • Op, Your service wasn't deleted but rather suspended after you opened a dispute with paypal, despite us actually sending you $360 back as we explained. I/We told you that if you cancel the dispute, we will reactivate the service (check your email, in case you haven't) You can't have everything your way. Oh and ah, the comment that makes it all worth the drama,

    how about u refund me for the time and labor i needed to move to another server ?

    Right. I mean hey, us responding to tickets and managing all the aspects of servers and other part of business, which consumes time is free, am I right?

    If anyone else feels like "We stole" someones hard earned money, (remember we are a business too), please feel free to correct me. I consider myself pretty pro-consumer and I built the brand with customer service as one of the core belief (without losing money of course).

    All I am going to say is, if OP had put the same amount of effort in assisting us with troubleshooting instead of sending paragraphs and essays about how we are responsible for everything that is wrong in the world, on our helpdesk, paypal dispute and now this thread (I mean, OP literally signed up to lodge a complaint, instead you know, actually working with us on troubleshooting), we wouldn't be here reading his post nor my long ass response.


    Wouldn't want to share the screenshots of our convo, but you know, I guess, OP will do the honor, since OP said,

    @vinsanrock said: Who do i contact to get this service provider off this website ? I have all the paypal records and evidences that can convict Nexusbytes of their fault


    @vinsanrock said: Thank u and i will start a thread soon on my own. Im not airing an issue yet, simply asking for direction. U will see it how NexusBytes treated me soon

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