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FranTech (BuyVM.net) loses all data - "FRIED NODE"
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is nigh.
20 pages, 572 comments, ....
so did you get your data back?
From this thread, my vps in buyvm i take a snapshot.
I am surprised there hasn't been a single Emma gif after so many pages of "content".
@Nekki - you're dropping the ball!
Flagged for signature over length.
Send IHOP gift cards to the four IDs mentioned in your signature, and I'll retract my complaint.
Here's fuel to get you to 666
My data is on Google drive, it was just not being able to work when i needed because I used BuyVM as a remote windows workstation, and wasn't notified that the VPS was lost.
I started this thread to warn others that BuyVM lost my VPS, and can lose your VPS too.
And after 20 pages of comments, I've learned that my warning comes as a surprise to no one but me because everyone already expected BuyVM to lose it, so essentially this entire thread is a waste.
I did get some helpful recommendations on utilities for externally backing up Windows VPS, thank you.
Also, I remember when signing up for BuyVM last January, I did so because some random redditor posted about how much he loved "slices". I didn't know what a slice was, but was paying $250 a month for an Azure instance, and wanted to see if the cost could be brought down. I went to the BuyVM website, and thought it looked legit, so without any further due diligence I signed up.
So I was shocked when I found out that while unable to RDP into the VPS, the hard drive was sitting in the owners home all that time.
Turns out BuyVM is just a dude. And that is my fault for doing no research.
Make fun of me all you want for my knowledge gap, but I would assume VPS hosts want my business since I basically overpay for a service that I barely use. Like my gym equinox membership I never use.
And I also now know that none of this comes as a surprise to anyone here, but me...
BuyVM is a dude and Karen.
Usually problems are blamed on Karen.
It's surprising that the dude didn't blame Karen for losing the VPS this time.
btw. there were some rumors, that Karen is only alter ego of a dude
don't bo so sure! why do think it was mentioned KITCHEN (a women's kingdom/natural habitat) during hard drive resuscitation discussion?
And still, some users a day after reading this topic: "Backup? No, I didn't hear that one."
This is why I still pay for my shitty home internet
And the end still isn't neigh?
When is the wedding? Will there be a fiesta?
I believe it reads as to expect that any provider,big or small to have issues that would cause users to lose their data....and not to always hope that provider to always have backup of users data, but to keep own backups,especially if it is important...
So @OP didn't really lose any data, they just lost access to their remote workstation? How much time does it take to set it up again, 15 minutes?
Doesn't that mean then there's nothing premium about any of these providers. For example I was looking through Low End blog posts, and found RackNerd has 16gb ram VPS for half the cost of BuyVM, and they have pictures of an office on their site so I guess it's more than just a guy running it.
Serious question, what is the pro of BuyVM compared to half the cost with RackNerd, or CheapWindowsVPS?
I don't know if these other low end hosts are safe and secure from concrete saws like BuyVM, but I also don't think it matters now that I can recover with an external backup anytime.
Stick around for a while and you'll get to know their stories, why some prefer one to another. There wasn't really ever meant to be anything premium about hosts here. This website originally catered to people who wanted to spend less on funding marketing budgets and hiring full support teams, and more on just raw resources. Because the people here knew how, or enjoyed learning how, to manage their own servers with no support.
What you see today is the evolution of that community. It's still about making trade offs to buy more resources for less (though it used to be about getting away with less resources, that was really how the prices were low, people always wanted more), but everyone has their own flavor of how they do it. Their own recipe. If I recall, it was ChicagoVPS that first broke the barrier of 2GB memory for $7, and it really kicked off the race.
BuyVM themselves were never considered to be perfect, Fran was just one of the first, if not the first, to do $15/year VPS and he could barely keep them in stock, which lead to a huge following of people waiting to get in the door. He was also extremely active in the community and showed clear signs of not just packing up and leaving one night to never be heard from again, which was always a real threat in this community. Providers would just take money and run, totally disappear. Often found to be using fake names so people would miss that they came back under a new name and did it again. We'd take bets on who was next. High risk has been baked into this community for a long time. It's not as bad as it used to be. Some of the old names around here are still going strong. Like this one: https://ramhost.us/
This post submitted to @dahartigan to ensure that it isn't shilling for BuyVM. Just trying to share some history as I remember it.
Yes every friendship in this thread has value.
Just dropping this here - Windows 365 isn't a "managed service" either. It's set up with Azure AD to to known-folder redirection to OneDrive but it's not backed up, if their hypervisor dies they won't have a backup of your data either. On Azure or OneDrive. Microsoft ain't giving you anything for free.
I personally pay the dollar a month for backups of the 1 slice that I have important data on - back your shit up mate.
And this is general advice for anyone new at DR and not necessarily the OP:
It is one thing to have backup and another thing to be able to restore from it (you never know, software can glitch, data can be corrupt, you can misstep). Practice the restore until you can do it as effortlessly as downloading porn. If you're seeing what you expected to see after the restore, then you're good to go.
Thank you, and I do want to learn.
Can I ask you another question?
I see a lot of providers like ramhost.us say they do ssd and raid10. What is raid10, or what does it mean for a VPS?
Google says raid10 is RAID configuration that combines disk mirroring and disk striping to protect data.
But if there's one thing I've learned from this thread is that no host protects data.
Do you know how I should think of raid10?
Have you considered going to Backblaze, Wasabi, or even Onedrive, etc?
If you're on VPS, you don't do anything about RAID (unless you're doing something very fancy) because you don't have access to physical drives configuration. The host does that for you.
No host protects data like their life/career depend on it. They only do it on a best effort basis.
It can tolerate a single drive failure but is susceptible to whole machine failure. Example: motherboard failure (just downtime) or if two drives fail at the same time due to raging fire (data loss).
I'll preface this by saying that I only read page 1 and the most recent page (20)... too many posts in between.
You're in a sucky situation and you want to vent - I totally get it. Especially with the time you need to spend time to rebuild your machine (even if you had backups / documented everything).
In terms of future consideration, just a couple things to consider:
@jar is becoming the new @jsg with these walls of text, my goodness. So much passion wasted.
RAID10 is an old favorite around here, but not always used. At one time, it was a point of pride among providers here. They would proudly announce that they used it, and customers would ask for it. The benefit of RAID10 is that if a hard drive fails, everything keeps working fine, and there are benefits to performance with it as well. RAID10 doesn't stand up to everything, for example a controller failure has fried a few RAID10 arrays.
Though sometimes people suspect that a fried RAID10 array was really evidence that the host was lying about RAID10, and it's entirely probable that it was sometimes true. I've personally witnessed at least one actual RAID10 failure that I could confirm within reason, controller failure that killed the data.
You're both newbies to me. I'm the original me.
I can neither confirm or deny.