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It is biased but you should all know by now that this community isn't a community anymore.. it left when Joel left, at least he followed in his predecessors footsteps and allowed it to run as normal.
Ahummm... But why would I be crying? It makes no sense. Im actually pretty well. I don't follow fan clubs. This is obvious, plain simple. If it were HVH, or any other forum, you guys would say it's biased and unfair for the others. In fact it's hilarious.
Joel was the man. Period.
I'm at fault here because I state the obvious. Intentional or not, the newest company being interviewed to increase their exposure (obviously happens) which happens to belong to an Administrator from LET.
So much fuss over nowt.
Some people are guilty of making some poor choices.
It's not a conspiracy, nor is this the start of LEBs darkest hour; that began when offers started being allowed on LET.
@Jacob - you're talking nonsense pal, if you don't think LET is a community then you don't know the meaning of the word.
For sure it is a community, however it's lacking what was special about it.
Can anyone honestly say that they browse LET as much as they did up until around Joel's departure?
I don't know what the answer is but that's for @jarland to figure out I guess.
@MrGeneral
Wait a second, this headline is because of some dumb interview, that disappoints you!? This is the reason for a topic like this!? Not the continued downfall of this community and the fact is is turning into a pit of advertisements and immature high school kids, yeah... okay, sure...
I mean, frankly, who cares what is posted on LEB anymore? One thing you can be sure of is it will always be in the best interest of ColoCrossing and its affiliates. If you forgot this somewhere along the way.. Wow. If this surprises you still, just WOW.
The most popular topics here now are those for dirt cheap dedicated servers, $1/month VPS servers for VPN or large storage VPS at $7 for your 'Linux ISOs'. I guarantee you when LEB/LET started that none of these things were even remotely considered to be part of the conversation. The conversation used to be what can be done with a low resource server; whats the best way to optimize your server, what loss leader specials are large companies running to advertise their products, etc. This is not particularly true anymore.
Could you not tell by the way things have been going over the recent past where things are headed? They are hiring inexperienced technical writers, raising limits, allowing shared hosting advertisements, anything they can do to attract people back to this place (anyone, not just the original target audience of VPS/Virtualization enthusiasts). They don't even hold true the same unspoken rules regarding the open discussion of copyright infringement on this board (hint: it previously wasn't tolerated, but now it seems like it is the subject of every other thread) and we are somehow surprised no larger companies want to advertise or converse here any longer?
To some extent, I understand it is the natural progression of things (especially being owned by a corporate entity), sure, but in other ways it is just trying to milk every last dime they can get out of this community before things start to dry up.
TL;DR:
If you want to be disgusted by something, it should be the state of this forum and what it stands for now, not a single 'biased' interview which by now should be something that is expected from ColoCrossing and its affiliates. This isn't the first time and I am sure it will not be the last.
my 2 cents.
Cheers!
Pretty sure lots of people come here more often than they did during Joel's reign of fail. I know I do.
Joel was CC's patsy, don't forget that. If you want to blame anyone for the state of LET, blame him.
This. He was only interesting in milking LET/LEB for everything he could get. Just as CC continue to do. They seem to be concerned about things here anyway as they are more visible than I have ever seen them.
I have to admit, I thought the same thing when I saw it. Also, wasn't that Jordan kid banned?
Different Jordan.
Ah, good.
Apologies @Jordan
@MrGeneral, I have respect for you -- but I have to say your post left me considering some Excedrin.
Where I suspect we could agree is that the article should carry a disclaimer that @Ishaq is an admin, perhaps also stating that the writer chose the subject without interference from anyone else.
After that: when would it be acceptable to throw his company in the mix? After profiling BuyVM, RamNode, SecureDragon, and every other established company?
Is a short length of operations an instant disqualifier, putting new entrants at a disadvantage and biasing these features toward established companies that won't need the boost as much?
We all have a pretty good idea of the basic ops at BuyVM and RamNode and the other established companies that participate in the community because they've been here ages.
And -- preferring advertisers in doing these features? It's not like LEB post-LowEndAdmin has ever been truly free of ad/editorial interference, but that's literally suggesting the features should favor those who throw more money at ColoCrossing. That kind of scheme would REALLY get the pitchfork brigade out in full force.
Plus: is first post really an accomplishment? Maybe in a comment section where it stays at the top. But by the next few posts, this company's gonna be at the bottom of the category listing, and the post will be irrelevant.
the interview could be tailored to getting them to talk about their successes, failures, how other hosts can learn from them, after all they have the experience. So much to gleen from those hosts that have pretty much seen it all.
But then you need to know what to ask and how to make it useful, like I said before the 'interview' with Budgetnode was just a waste of virtual paper, my kids cold have done it better. Do it properly or not at all.
You can always vote with your wallet.
That's what corporations do.
I really miss the time when Scott owns everything. Oh well... good ol' days.
I read both sites and my reaction to the "interview" was basically "lol, these guys, never change".
The joke (to me, not to you guys) is I wouldn't purchase service from BudgetNode simply because they're involved in administration of LET/LEB, anyway.
I'm actually waiting patiently for Jarland to walk away from here so I can sign up for some of MXroute's great deals!
I just wouldn't put myself in that position.
Pains me to agree with Nekki, but yeah.
It's hilarious that nobody involved in this realized it was a retarded thing to do, but ain't gonna pretend to be surprised.
Random guy perspective.
ah technically I don't have one for personal venting I hired a new guy at cubedata to handle PR/vps sales/support and I asked Ishaq if it made sense to allow him to use my personal account and share it with the new employee and he said it wasn't wise to share my personal account with him so he said to create another account official that he would move the provider tag to and both me & my new employee who now handles PR/vps sales/support can use it as well. because to be honest I thought sharing my personal account with the provider tag made sense Ishaq said it didn't and said he recommended me creating the cubedata account instead.
What kind of weird self imposed politics does that stem from, I wonder?
Please do share what advantage you think an interview about BudgetNode gives ColoCrossing.
Just noticed your sign up date and I don't even recognise your name.. hm
I just want you guys to know that I appreciate the feedback about the community. I disagree with every assessment that this is no longer a community though. I've been given full authority to maintain this community, and I've in turn given full autonomy to some of our most dedicated community members to make decisions with and for the better of the community.
Following feedback from members I've even taken a step back and reduced my actions in favor of allowing those community members to be more involved, and I've taken less liberties to make changes without community involvement. If that isn't community driven, I don't know what is.
I feel like we're as alive as a community as we ever were. Times change and we may not all be as obsessed with 64MB VPS but, as a community, we have evolved with the landscape and we remain strong.
We're still a small community, we always have been. But we're still a strong voice in a market, an important structure that is in no way losing its ground. I want to grow faster, but we are actually growing lately.
They albeit naively believe it will start to drive traffic back up. For you it's a free advert for no effort.
Frankly I like the changes being made to the LECommunity but I am concerned that this might turn into an oligarchy. I like the fact that stricter requirements have been set for certain badges but I am alarmed to see special badges being given on the whim e.g. @Francisco being tagged as Top Provider, I don't dispute at all BuyVM's credibility, they are among the best in my opinion but who gets to designate someone as the top provider? Is it something I have missed on the forums or is it based on the quarterly poll ? I asked @jarland about it in a thread some while back but got no response.
I think @MrGeneral has a fair point - at first blush, having the first interview conducted with a company in which a LET mod is involved screams conflict of interest...
However, knowing the personalities involved - and given that no one actually reads LEB any more, do they? - I think I will still be able to sleep at night. Though that might just be the whiskey.
@francisco pays $100 per month to keep the top provider title.
I don't think ex-providers/active providers should be able to be an administrator here on LET/LEB. @Ishaq is a perfect example of that.
EDIT: It's sad because right after I post this @Ishaq decided to "match" my IP with my "other" accounts (in which I have no affiliation with). This forum is totally biased and unfair.
I think... no, you are underestimating. I've seen the numbers before LEA left (when i - among others - both visible and via companies, offered to purchase LEB) and alone the pageviews are high as fuck, unless you + CC ruined it (which is not even that unlikely).
You can already live comfortable (especially with low tax rate as self employed) with a few 100 VPS customers.
Funny enough, i have not really much morals/ethics especially in business (not like i publish what i own of which VPS provider here, and it's a bunch by now) and even i see a conflict of interest there.... must mean something.
I think this sums it up pretty good. as long as there will be more interviews of this kind in short time budgetnode simply will be one amongst them.
so far they really seem to offer decent services and as involved in the community as @Ishaq is - he probably has more to lose then other providers, if he can't hold up to this now clearly documented goals ;-)
Ironically, it was supposed to be a one-time payment but he forgot to cancel his Paypal subscription, so...
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