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AFAIK you cannot actually transfer servers between accounts, and if you paid them then the issue is still there that they will pay with PP.
Why to remove Paypal.... When customer pay couple of hundred Euros+ for servers + €19 do not make it sound such a deal brake ...
I already told you I did MTR for a few hours and it had 4% packet loss to the destination IP... I've told you exactly what I did already. I don't know why it had packet loss but mtrs elsewhere for me didn't have it. It could have just been a problematic route it took or what. I don't know. All I know is there WAS packet loss.
I honestly would show you logs if I still had them. I rebuilt my PC about three weeks ago and thus, reinstalled windows etc. Honestly, I've had my fair share of issues with Online that led me to cancel one of my servers and I will be cancelling the other once I find a viable alternative for it.
In the future, use my example with multiple MTRs to and from on as many carriers as possible. It helps avoid false positives.
He specifically stated he was seeing internal packet loss and thus I tried from my Online. I did MTR's elsewhere and saw little to no packet loss <0.1%
There was some but nothing I would of been too concerned with.
Please all cancel your kidechire in hope they add more
I paid paypal too but will get virtual card just to them keep them servers. For price servers are good.
I just called PayPal police :P. So they are going to investigate and have this forum thread as a reference.
they seem didn't care about PayPal anymore
that why they force user to use CC
I know. PayPal will force them to drop the fee or stop accepting payments. In the end its better than paying the fee.
Mine too, all Aussie banks are suspicious as heck. Can't possibly imagine why :P
What I don't like are your techs . They denied an issue ( with 3 servers). Back then I paid a bunch of money for the setup fees and finally they told me the " wires " were bad. The problem persisted and I took down 3x e3v3 .
Your techs really suck .
Also I have to said your control panel is one of the best I've seen but you have to solve the OS reinstall. It has been recognized by your own guys it has some flaws . Can't recall if it was with certain os's or what.
Also your policy of menacing me that after the 3rd episode ( your techs could not care less when I showed them it was a false positive) they told me to check logs with certain commands , I believe I could download my stuff ( which I don't care whatever was inside those boxes) and to reinstall.
Does your CEO know all that sh. procedures and the lack of reading and writing comprehension they have?
They might excel while dealing with French customers , such thing doesn't translate for customers that speak English , not French.
I sent this pro guys plenty of mtrs and they wantes me to do iperf to some online server and did not consider my screenshots of packets loss valid.
@0xdragon I pay using a standard Aussie Debit (visa) card and never had any issues,
It's there choice, and it's marginally better than completely dropping Paypal for those the absolute need to use Paypal. You have 30 days notice too, many LET hosts can't even manage that length of notice for IP migration and data center changes. It's a strong nudge to the other options.
One look at this site and they will just turn and walk away
I can no longer trust Online.Net for this. Even if they remove this fee, simply for making this decision by their staff, and announcing it in a public newsletter, is terrifying. In my mind Online.Net is now buried with those shady unserious and greedy providers.
A serious company does not do this. A serious and honest company catches the bull by the horns and removes a payment method, announcing customers with at least 1 month in advance.
Now I shall leave Online.Net and their strange fees because I can no longer trust them. I think they should be removed from LET too, but this is not my decision to make.
Please note: this fee is not just for PayPal. Whoever has an account at Online.Net can now see this official announcement on their payment mode page (https://console.online.net/en/bill/payment_mode): A €19 fee will be charged for optional payment methods (checks, Paypal, American Express, bank transfers)
So, in my theory, all this is just the beginning of something bigger. I do not desire to be a part of it.
I talked with the CEO on the IRC. They cannot hold this server prices when the transaction fee is 8-10% and they every day got a paypal dispute. They have to choose. Low server prices or they increase the price and accept paypal.
Within the years paypal suspended their account many times. So they want to avoid. And everybody use their credit card. Thats not a problem in the EU. Thats a problem OUTSIDE the EU.
Thats what i know. And i fully understand their step.. if somebody pay 200-500+ eur/mo 19 fee not the end of the world. But if you pay a 2-50 eur/mo server then its... a problem.
so pass it on to customer instead.. (which is what happens if i pay with cc)
So the difference between a honest and a dishonest company is that the hoest company removed the payment method completly while the dishonest company continues to offer it but with an additional fee?
Suggestions on other EU providers? I have a Hetzner box but their network speeds are horrible. Online.net speeds almost always hit their 150 Mbps limit and I seldom get better than 20-30 Mbps from Hetzner
Then something is wrong or Hetzner's connection to your network (or vice versa) is not the best. I see great speeds from my Hetzner servers to many locations worldwide. Would you like me to test something for you so that you have a comparison?
@Amitz -- specifically back to US...
My online box sends at 22MB/s to hetzner. Going back to online (from hetzner) maybe 6-7 MB/s.
Download speeds are fine it is outbound that is slow. Getting 4-5 MB/s now on a large FTP transfer to my home line (120Mbps). Just initiated same TX from my online box and maxing out at 12+ MB/s.
The reason I use PayPal is so I don't have to give my card number to dodgy online services...
Yes, the connection between Online.net (have servers there too) and Hetzner is not the best, I had the same experience. However, I never was under the impression that Hetzner's network (globally) has to hide behind Online.net.
OVH
yep - looked more at soyoustart - might consider them. I wish i3d had something a bit lower priced as their network seems very nice!
I'm now thinking just to keep my
Use a prepaid card connected with your web banking account and top it up whenever you need to pay something. Change frequently those prepaid (most banks are changing them at least once a year, especially the virtual ones). At least, that's what I do
Same here
Why hide ?
Maybe that got lost in translation from german to english. I meant that the Hetzner network is not inferior to Online.net's (IMHO).
quite the opposite!