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  • @oriend said:
    Anyone registered .eu or .de domain on netcup without EU residence? Also, do they have whois privacy for these domains?

    whois privacy is not included but not needed either since nothing, except for your email, is published. You need a verified eu or de address in your contacts though (I'm not sure if they really verify it at the end).

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  • oriendoriend Member

    @webcraft said:

    @oriend said:
    Anyone registered .eu or .de domain on netcup without EU residence? Also, do they have whois privacy for these domains?

    whois privacy is not included but not needed either since nothing, except for your email, is published. You need a verified eu or de address in your contacts though (I'm not sure if they really verify it at the end).

    Email is quite private tho. So there's no way to hide it at all?

  • webcraftwebcraft Member
    edited April 25

    @oriend said:

    @webcraft said:

    @oriend said:
    Anyone registered .eu or .de domain on netcup without EU residence? Also, do they have whois privacy for these domains?

    whois privacy is not included but not needed either since nothing, except for your email, is published. You need a verified eu or de address in your contacts though (I'm not sure if they really verify it at the end).

    Email is quite private tho. So there's no way to hide it at all?

    No, just add another account email before domain register and change it again after it. iirc they don't continously sync with eurid.

    Thanked by 1oriend
  • loayloay Member

    @webcraft said:

    @oriend said:

    @webcraft said:

    @oriend said:
    Anyone registered .eu or .de domain on netcup without EU residence? Also, do they have whois privacy for these domains?

    whois privacy is not included but not needed either since nothing, except for your email, is published. You need a verified eu or de address in your contacts though (I'm not sure if they really verify it at the end).

    Email is quite private tho. So there's no way to hide it at all?

    No, just add another account email before domain register and change it again after it. iirc they don't continously sync with eurid.

    No, nothing is public for .de tld. You do not need an address in Germany or Europe to register .de or .eu at netcup.

    Thanked by 1oriend
  • hyperblasthyperblast Member
    edited April 25

    @cainyxues said:
    @hyperblast if you want to buy some domains you can do that now

    this is how I did it!

    Thanked by 1cainyxues
  • @loay said:

    @webcraft said:

    @oriend said:

    @webcraft said:

    @oriend said:
    Anyone registered .eu or .de domain on netcup without EU residence? Also, do they have whois privacy for these domains?

    whois privacy is not included but not needed either since nothing, except for your email, is published. You need a verified eu or de address in your contacts though (I'm not sure if they really verify it at the end).

    Email is quite private tho. So there's no way to hide it at all?

    No, just add another account email before domain register and change it again after it. iirc they don't continously sync with eurid.

    No, nothing is public for .de tld. You do not need an address in Germany or Europe to register .de or .eu at netcup.

    denic doesn't publish but eurid does.

    Thanked by 1pbx
  • Just bought a domain there

  • @hyperblast said: this is how I did it!

    were u saying u bought something ? - a domain?

  • pbxpbx Member

    @oriend said: So there's no way to hide it at all?

    You can create an alias for your domains, like [email protected] -> redirecting to your personnal address.

    Thanked by 1oriend
  • @webcraft said:

    @loay said:

    @webcraft said:

    @oriend said:

    @webcraft said:

    @oriend said:
    Anyone registered .eu or .de domain on netcup without EU residence? Also, do they have whois privacy for these domains?

    whois privacy is not included but not needed either since nothing, except for your email, is published. You need a verified eu or de address in your contacts though (I'm not sure if they really verify it at the end).

    Email is quite private tho. So there's no way to hide it at all?

    No, just add another account email before domain register and change it again after it. iirc they don't continously sync with eurid.

    No, nothing is public for .de tld. You do not need an address in Germany or Europe to register .de or .eu at netcup.

    denic doesn't publish but eurid does.

    So .de doesn't publish anything but .eu does?

  • webcraftwebcraft Member
    edited April 27

    @itachikonoha said:

    @webcraft said:

    @loay said:

    @webcraft said:

    @oriend said:

    @webcraft said:

    @oriend said:
    Anyone registered .eu or .de domain on netcup without EU residence? Also, do they have whois privacy for these domains?

    whois privacy is not included but not needed either since nothing, except for your email, is published. You need a verified eu or de address in your contacts though (I'm not sure if they really verify it at the end).

    Email is quite private tho. So there's no way to hide it at all?

    No, just add another account email before domain register and change it again after it. iirc they don't continously sync with eurid.

    No, nothing is public for .de tld. You do not need an address in Germany or Europe to register .de or .eu at netcup.

    denic doesn't publish but eurid does.

    So .de doesn't publish anything but .eu does?

    denic publishes on request only (formal request, not simple web request) and eurid shows registrant info (which is email only) in whois: https://whois.eurid.eu/en/search/?domain=<domain>

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  • RS 1000, Currently in use, running mongo, nginx, rsync etc etc.

    Price to performance is really good.

    root@niranjan:~# curl -sL https://yabs.sh | bash
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2025-04-20                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Sun Apr 27 01:31:37 PM CEST 2025
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 59 days, 4 hours, 39 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 9634 84-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 4 @ 2246.624 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 7.7 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 503.8 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-31-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : netcup GmbH
    ASN        : AS197540 netcup GmbH
    Host       : Netcup KVM VIE
    Location   : Vienna, Vienna (9)
    Country    : Austria
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda3):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 180.13 MB/s  (45.0k) | 402.39 MB/s   (6.2k)
    Write      | 180.60 MB/s  (45.1k) | 404.51 MB/s   (6.3k)
    Total      | 360.73 MB/s  (90.1k) | 806.90 MB/s  (12.6k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 386.10 MB/s    (754) | 494.53 MB/s    (482)
    Write      | 406.61 MB/s    (794) | 527.46 MB/s    (515)
    Total      | 792.72 MB/s   (1.5k) | 1.02 GB/s      (997)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 2.59 Gbits/sec  | 2.32 Gbits/sec  | 24.9 ms        
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 2.67 Gbits/sec  | 2.34 Gbits/sec  | 28.1 ms        
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 2.34 Gbits/sec  | 1.88 Gbits/sec  | 88.7 ms        
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 1.36 Gbits/sec  | 1.86 Gbits/sec  | 191 ms         
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.03 Gbits/sec  | 759 Mbits/sec   | 151 ms         
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.40 Gbits/sec  | 1.90 Gbits/sec  | 106 ms         
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 1.32 Gbits/sec  | 682 Mbits/sec   | 210 ms         
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 2.69 Gbits/sec  | 1.58 Gbits/sec  | 24.9 ms        
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 2.63 Gbits/sec  | 2.30 Gbits/sec  | 28.1 ms        
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 2.47 Gbits/sec  | 1.95 Gbits/sec  | 88.8 ms        
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 1.08 Gbits/sec  | 1.81 Gbits/sec  | 191 ms         
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.09 Gbits/sec  | 883 Mbits/sec   | 151 ms         
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.35 Gbits/sec  | 1.91 Gbits/sec  | 105 ms         
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 949 Mbits/sec   | 537 Mbits/sec   | 210 ms         
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 1847                          
    Multi Core      | 5732                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/11709757
    
    YABS completed in 12 min 39 sec
    root@niranjan:~# 
    
    Thanked by 1maverick
  • HosteroidHosteroid Member, Patron Provider

    Soo after moving back and forth with Netcup support which is very slow and takes days to answer here is what i got:

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda3):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 142.08 MB/s (35.5k) 281.21 MB/s (4.3k)
    Write 142.46 MB/s (35.6k) 282.69 MB/s (4.4k)
    Total 284.55 MB/s (71.1k) 563.90 MB/s (8.8k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 311.03 MB/s (607) 488.81 MB/s (477)
    Write 327.56 MB/s (639) 521.37 MB/s (509)
    Total 638.59 MB/s (1.2k) 1.01 GB/s (986)

    They "migrated" my server to another node and disk speeds are even worse now.
    And support answer was:

    Hello, 
    yes, those are NVMe, but this is still a shared environment.
    

    And offer was RS8000 with NVMe DISK.. FIO speeds more like sata SSD, also why selling "root server" with dedicated resources if you comment after in support ticket that it is "still a shared environment."

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  • DariusDarius Member

    Disk very slow big overselling.

  • amarcamarc Veteran

    Had same experience.. Tried working with support, they said they moved my RS2000 but ended up being worse. Canceled, kept VPS1000 just for fun, good price and double storage.

  • remyremy Member

    IO are capped but that’s not very slow…
    Obsessed by figures without any use cases.

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  • amarcamarc Veteran

    @remy said:
    IO are capped but that’s not very slow…
    Obsessed by figures without any use cases.

    Not really.. Figured out I will just use Leaseweb VPS's which offers overall better price/quality ratio (and without promos) while not pretending to be "guaranteed resources"

  • RubbenRubben Member

    I find these aggressive promotions so suspicious. Netcup nowadays have insanely frequent sales with seemingly unsustainable deals... I'm wondering when the enshittification will begin and we'll see the next Contabo.

  • remyremy Member
    edited May 4

    @amarc said:

    @remy said:
    IO are capped but that’s not very slow…
    Obsessed by figures without any use cases.

    Not really.. Figured out I will just use Leaseweb VPS's which offers overall better price/quality ratio (and without promos) while not pretending to be "guaranteed resources"

    The last time I tested leaseweb vps I had 15 to 40% cpu steal constantly.
    That may have changed. But I don't understand the choice, the new generation of rootserver certainly has capped IO. But it also guarantees more stable performance and less abusive neighbors.

    IO performance remains very good. netcup RS are among the best in this price range. Whether in terms of stability, network quality or performance.

    But that's only my experience.

  • webcraftwebcraft Member
    edited May 4

    @amarc said:

    @remy said:
    IO are capped but that’s not very slow…
    Obsessed by figures without any use cases.

    Not really.. Figured out I will just use Leaseweb VPS's which offers overall better price/quality ratio (and without promos) while not pretending to be "guaranteed resources"

    afaik only CPU threads are dedicated, everything else is fair share. You can constantly scrub the disk with 1Gbit/s which is pretty good imo.

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  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited May 4

    Nope, those disks don't feel more "like SSD", not to me anyway, and I've seen and benchmarked plenty of drives of all sorts.

    Here the 4k/4t result of >= 10 runs:

    --- Disk IOps (Sync/Direct) ---
    Write seq. [MB/s]: avg 22.96 - min 21.86 (95.2%), max 24.93 (108.6%)
    IOps : avg 5878.52 - min 5596.79 (95.2%), max 6380.90 (108.5%)

    And while I've seen quite a few NVMes with worse results, yes, this drive isn't a speed demon, but neither is it clearly in SSD territory; I benchmarked read speeds of GB/s both in buffered and sync'ed mode both in 64k and 1M block sizes. Those results go far beyond what one can expect from - even enterprise - SSDs.

    The key IMO is how netcup approaches it. My educated (but possibly wrong) take is this: the 'dedicated' in VDS (aka. 'root server') does not mean fixed HWTs attached only to your VM and always 100% performance garanteed (like a dedi), but it rather means that you can use all your vCores 100% of the time, 24/7/365; and btw the multi-threaded spread is decently low that is, you really get the full performance and this can also be seen in the single cores vs multi-core ratio.
    As for the drives their approach seems to be similar that is, you can expect and get a really decent level of performance and IOps and with a decently low spread all the time that is, unlike with quite many VPSs disk performance isn't like a lottery but quite stable.
    But why did they use and clearly announce 'NVMe'? Simple: GBs/s read speeds and usually significantly higher IOps than SSDs.

    TL;DR netcup's focus seems to be to provide a (kind of) real virtual dedicated server - not "the fastest VPS you can possibly get", but a very stable level of performance, just like with a real dedi.

    Plus, at a very decent price.

    The relevant and realistic comparison isn't against some speed daemon VPS, nope, it is against cheap true dedis like e.g. Kimsufi boxes - and that comparison is easily won by netcup root servers.

    Granted, I wouldn't have a business client run his n x 10k req/s heavily DB driven main website on a netcup root server - but neither would I have him run it on some $50 cheap dedi.
    But those customers aren't the target market of netcup root servers anyway. They're focused on serving the lower end and middle region of the market. And netcup also isn't about 'true dedis' or about the fastest VMs ever, nope they are about cutting the "fair share" game in the virtual server market, and IMO they are doing that very well.

    So, show me a true dedi with the performance of a netcup root server at a similar price, or even another VDS at a similar price and I'll be very interested. If you can't, kindly stop complaining about netcup root servers.

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