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You prefered to be offline instead of GRE tunnel your traffic to OVH because muh latency.
Not true.
To apply that solution, I discovered 3 major problems along the way:
1. Until OVH announces our subnet through BGP, they do not filter anything (they do not open BGP packets to analyze them if the IPs remain announced in Romania)
2. If you move the entire subnet to OVH, with which public IP addresses do you still configure the BGP session?
We only have two /24 subnets, one of which has already been at OVH for several weeks.
Requesting additional IPs from Orange takes a few days, and from there I already requested Arbor, which is pending.
3. I stopped announcing the /24 subnet on the Internet and started the BGP session, for some reason the transfer speed was a few Mbps.
LOL. Maybe with the static IP your ISP allocated to your internet service?!
Even that IP was under the incidence of DDoS attacks these days.
Is this still not solved?! Jesus. Maybe @FlorinMarian should wait a few more days and get an entry in the Guinness World Records.
Hey!
Today, Monday January 15, 2024 at 09:00, Orange sent me the contract for AntiDDoS protection from Arbor, a contract that I will not sign because once again, Orange is abusing the fact that it is the one proposing the contract, obliging me to pay for this Add-On for 24 months regardless of whether the service will be functional or not, according to our needs. (the price of this AntiDDoS is 150% higher than what we already pay for the dedicated 2Gbps). It is also unfair that for each change of a threshold of the AntiDDoS solution we are obliged to pay 300 EUR per change.
The remaining available solutions are limited, but I will look for alternatives, now that I have some certainty about the solution I was relying on.
Thank you for the understanding you show!
@Andreix please repeat one more time "I told you so" about orange. Endorphins from schadenfreude is good...
@host_c when the CPU's starting to vibe you know it's serious
@emgh
That shit is on loop for 12 days. Found it while doing some research for "Patronel" to help him out, stumbled across the video on LinkedIn.
Dude... you clearily don't have a clue how this world works... and I'm not saying that to mock you or "in bataie de joc", however I am telling you all this for you to realise you are simply not capable to run this kind of business.
In such cases, you don't just sign a contract like an idiot. You tell orange something like:
"Fine, let's do that. However, to make sure you're not just trolling and can actually handle the situation and mitigate the attacks, I want a 30-day anytime cancel clause on the contract. If, for any reason, your solution doesn't work at optimal parameters, I can terminate the contract without any cost or penalty."
You don't just sign anything they fucking handle you. The 30 day trial in the DC business it's a must. We have had some ISPs create an entire fucking circuit for our DC in Bucharest and, since they failed to deliver the service properly, we terminated with them. And that was a Tier1 ISP who created a circuit to us from NXData.
Also, can't stress enough on this, if I learnt anything in those 13-14 years I've been in the hosting/DC business, you can sue anyone for anything. Any small detail can be disputed in a court.
You just need to sue Orange for not delivering their service at optimal parameters (and I'm talking about the internet now). Sure, they can invoke DDoS, but you can also invoke misconfiguration or untrained staff that caused your business to hurt.
I'll also give you a small example here, to see how easy is to sue someone, if you really want/need to:
Last year, we had an exclusive-access management contract with a company for a proxmox cluster + some other extras. All fine, until the dude decided to hire some dude to fix his Mikrotik network, fucked up by few others network admins.
Now, this "professional" decided to change a private subnet (192.168...) in the middle of the fucking day, which caused communication errors on the PMX nodes. This "owner" gave access to the "professional" to the cluster we had exclusive access, to update a freaking private IP on an interface and the "professional" screwed up everything we configured, making the whole cluster unusable, from a simple interface IP change.
You could say: sure, but it's the "owner"'s network, he can do whatever he wants.
Yes and no. In this scenario, I could sue:
Have we sued them? Nah. The contract was ~ 350-400 EUR/mo and I was quite happy to terminate with them so I can take some bigger project.
Why am I telling you this? To make you understand how easy it is to dispute ANYTHING in a court and how can you use the law in your advantage if you want to.
Also, by suing them, you can request to suspend the payments to Orange until the matter is solved in the court. So that will also help you by giving some extra cash in your pocket to make your business survive.
Even if you, somehow, lose in the court, you can request to pay Orange in small settlements, due to the size of your business and due to the fact that bad handling by Orange caused you customer loss. You can stretch those payments for yeeeeeeeaaaarrrrrssss.
I will preface my next response with this: I am not discounting the work you've put in so far in addressing/mitigating the attack(s). Nor am I discounting the amount of hours put in to learn about
fastnetmon, and the plethora of random tidbits you've had to learn about (the hard way) to navigate out of this mess.(IIRC: quote below is from another thread)
I purchased a box just over a month ago with no intention to cancel (for a long time). I did this both so that I could see how things were going -- and to support the forum's second basement DC (even if jokingly). I didn't cancel after random maintenance was announced here (rather than through email), and still haven't (even if this month's uptime has been (probably) under 50%. I didn't demand SLA credits, and certainly did not lodge any additional tickets regarding the downtime (knowing that you were dealing with enough already).
Sure, some of us, including myself, signed up with a fairly clear understanding of what were getting ourselves into (which is why I've kept the box). Having said that, I'm also sure that there are a few customers that have had absolutely no clue about what was (or is) going on. It's insulting to those clients when you say "well, sucks -- they should've known" (even when there is no actual warning on the order form to indicate that the
ROlocation is in a home-based DC while theDElocation is not).Side note: I'm just letting you know here that (likely due to a language barrier) you come off as a tad arrogant and somewhat rude. There's a reason why people have responded in a sort of passive-aggressive tone (or even sarcastically).
On the plus side, the migration notice (something super important to know about) was sent by email (woo!).
I wish you the best of luck and hope the migration goes smoothly.
@doghouch Not only the language barrier but also my temperament make me seem arrogant, I say this because even with the people dear to me, it happens that they get upset that I'm arrogant even though I don't have a better opinion of myself compared to what I think of others.
Although it doesn't seem like it, I don't always seek to be right, but to understand who is right and why. For someone to tell me that I'm wrong without convincing me that the other opinion is better, it really doesn't help
Thank you for your support!
continuation of HAZI.ro deadpool story:
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/191957/lf-ovh-germany-france-old-deals
You love this guy more than me.
How many topics are there
Bro, always love yourself more than others.
We have a Romanian word called "Hazna" (you can do the due diligence to search it).
Hope that's not the direction "Hazi" heads to.
Do I need opening a ticket to choose 1 of 3 alternatives about migration?
DUUUUUDE! DON'T YOU DO THAT!
All communication is done via this forum mainly.
You can post here your issue, although I'd highly recommend to open a new thread. Use the syntax [HAZI.ro] - {issue} - RO - {expected action}
Google:
An underground basin of relatively small dimensions, used for the collection and decantation of impure waters from a small number of households.
Like DDOS Filter, but for water?
Please do this forum is special for Hazi.ro
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Hazi.ro hosted all this world , netflix , google , and other (legal) business corporations
Hazi.ro own all ISPs and peerings from this world , when you wi-fi or you internet it's slow , it's because @FlorinMarian download porn!
Say #NO to Hazi.ro corporation
You are having too much fun
Yeah watch out, it can always backfire.
Imagine if both Calin and Florin got hit with DDoS, we'd have double the drama!
Someone, please!
No iam not.
I'd have to change my citizenship out of embarrassment...
Florin isn’t really helping the tourism in Romania.