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Unless of course CC hasn't yet communicated the change to their client. It is another Buffalo offering, after all.
"client" heh.
„CHANGE“!
@CVPS_Chris you need to get on this ASAP.
Francisco
lol.
@teamacc ch ch chu chaaaange
@Francisco is this cPanel licensing affect your Offloaded SQL service? i had service until 2020. this service make easier when reinstall vm or order another vm at buyvm.
actually i dont need cPanel interface, i just want sql work even only with bootstrap interface etc.
We'll likely just tell everyone to move to BuyShared. It's NVME based and actually maintained.
We'll roll out BuyShared in NY to help with this, that way our NY customers don't get left with 80ms ping.
Francisco
Not just CC or LEB hosts, I was just browsing cPanel partner directory on their site and found out most of them still offering unlimited cpanel account reseller. God knows if they've been intimated by cpanel about price increase and the extra $xxxx license cost they'll have to pay in coming months! Only a few selected host has written a blog post that they'll be reviewing their prices in coming months. Rest are still happy to sell 'unlimited' everything! (mostly Asian web hosts included)
I am not a hosting provider, The way I see it, It takes a lot of effort to bring in a customer and cPanel wants to have a share of that.
Imagine if Apache started charging cPanel for all the people using their software.
I have worked as a developer for quite a few big enterprises and the one thing that the big boys avoid like cancer is any software/library that charges X% of your revenue or even more stupid is to base it on the number of your end users.
It feels like having to pay a monthly amount for your Fridge based on the number of people in the house.
cPanel was charging per server but as servers become more powerful hosting companies can fit more customers on each server thus ultimately requiring less licenses. The per-user licensing makes their revenue relatively immune from this trend.
...Cyberpanel
Buy one and create 1.000 accounts, just for fun
. To see their reaction when will have that bill
Provider should have some sort of automated monitoring/alerting for such use - and, with the new cPanel pricing, something within the TOS to limit it as well.
Some don't change until it's right there up their nose.
Or better yet, set hard limit on the number of cPanels.
I believe they have some packages that enable NOC partners to have hard limits on their customers.
I have some servers from them, but moving from there coz of the horrible support ...... and the panel, even that they have very cool webserver configs (nginx + varnish with RAM caching+ apache), also, the panel never seems to be stable ..... after long long time, still full of tons of bugs, a pity ...
Originally Posted by Patrick
If anyone is considering CyberPanel, I would highly recommend not using it until further notice...
https://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1770316&p=10158705#post10158705
Ok, well I have just finished 1 server migration to DirectAdmin.... mixture of shared and reseller accounts...
Everything went through quite well. A few sites had their database names and usernames changed.... but no big issue....
The server actually seems to be running better and websites quicker.....
I am starting to get use to DirectAdmin.... and I must say it seems pretty good. It’s a shame that PSM don’t support it yet....
I am looking forward to using JetBackup / Acronis
This seems like it would be an issue, especially for not so "tech friendly" site owners. @DA_Mark you might want to look into this(if it's DA related ofc).
I agree the max lenght should be changed. I did it manually.
How hard is it to develop an open source clone
Based upon the survey of free, open-source panels that have more holes than a game of whackamole pretty hard. Building a panel takes tremendous coordination of integrating disparate services and putting an interface on top of it. On top of that hosting being as it is, any company that starts to run with a panel that works will invariably fork and keep it proprietary halting any further development by the core. Any good dev that's putting 60-80 hours a week into such a project needs to eat. Free doesn't begin to pay the bill and it ends up as hobby code.
I knew the cpanel price will increase 18 months ago when I migrated 3 cpanel server into one, from paying 3 cpanel licenses now I pay 1 for the same amount of clients. At that moment I knew a increase will come, and now we have it.
What stops DA to use the same model of licensing in 18 months when a lot of people will migrate to their control panel. Nothing. So think with your head, everybody is in this bussines to make money, not to be a charity.
If your clients can't afford a $0.10/0.20 price increase per month you have a problem.
Just my2c.
OK if you say so lol. You must be the smartest man or woman on LET!
I think you're missing the wider picture.
cPanel only introduced this after Oakley bought in, although Nick (cPanel) himself appears to be in agreement with it but needed the bollocks of someone like Oakley to do it for him as he lacked his own. Perhaps he simply wanted some insurance in case this course of action went bad.
Of course, Direct Admin could do the same we will never know despite any assurances they offer. Having said that, whilst Direct Admin will grow from this event, what they offer is very different and it's years away from being the cPanel we see today that could justify a similar pricing structure. Time will tell.
So, have you considered that what cPanel has introduced is not actually the final step in their pricing roadmap?
They would have assessed the impact of this change, knew the backlash coming and expected to lose customers. But, are they actually finished? Or was this only the first step towards a final pricing structure that they are implementing in stages to take the 'edge' of it for clients?
At this moment in time it is fair to say you should be more worried about what cPanel is still planning, not what Direct Admin may do, I know I am. I wish it was as simple as migrating 3 servers into one as you have.
Which is short-sighted, sure it's easy to reference it as only $0.10 or $0.20 per month, for a single client that should not be an issue, try telling a client that it is 'only' another $20 per month based on their usage...
Then if you have them this time next year tell them again that cPanel has increased the cost by another $0.10 per user. I can almost guarantee you that Oakley will want pricing to keep up with inflation.
They have once of life opportunity to challenge cPanel for the leader place without changing anything in their price model which is similar to old cPanel ones - that maybe will take them an decade as they start from very low base of let say ~1% market share... If in 18 months they reach 15 market share and decide to go for new cPanel price model and just extractmore money from their market, they will get the money as they had 25% share for example that will screw their chances for the leader spot and also disappoint their current user base which keep them alive for 15 years ...
Also you can keep in mind that in the last 15 years (including now) all bough licenses came price stability guarantee so what you pay for active licenses you will continue to pay it ...
After the news for the price increase additional plan was to keep the cPanel service and to introduce DA plans positive initiative to order that one over the cPanel ...
BUT cPanel like to treat the small companies as piece of sh1t and they prove it yesterday when they changed silently their partners license program requirements from 750 to 4000 accoutns https://cpanel.net/pricing/ (it was 750 about couple a days ago when I last checked that)
Which for company that keep most of it's premium servers under 100 accounts and do not offer reseller mean 40 full servers ...
So the new plan is to keep cPanel customers as is to not disturb their business bu I'll not sell any new cPanel plan and will push hard DA
So my 2c will be if your company refuse to introduce alternative panel it is lacking innovative vision
which make it no so future proof if it relay on "Partner" like cPanel
Utter rubbish.
Clearly you lacked any vision up until the point cPanel introduced it's own.
It's very hard, but not impossible. It just takes someone willing to take on A LOT of work for no compensation other than the reward of knowing they built a widely used piece of software. Without a slew of developers on board, it's bound to cause a lot of problems during the early phases until security issues are ironed out.
There are a lot of panels out there, free and paid. Many (most?) have security issues discovered constantly.
It's also a chicken and the egg problem. Why put all this work into a software that very few people use, and why would a lot of people use a piece of software while it's being developed?
The best bet for this to actually work would be for an existing panel that has had a decent amount of life, to fork out an opensource version and let the opensource community develop it further.