[CHRISTMAS DEAL] - Ryzen 1700x - 64 GB Ram - Dedicated 1000 Mbit (FLAT!) - 3x 960 GB SSD = 80 €

jar · December 2017

@MikePT said:
@jarland what server did you order?

Ryzen Pro

Falzo · December 2017

fLoo said: Please use my own iperf3 server at http://speedtest.wtnet.de (10 Gbit / Hamburg) which is located at the DC of the company i work for ;-)

bookmarked.

# iperf3 -c speedtest.wtnet.de -p 5200 -P 10 -4

[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.13 GBytes   969 Mbits/sec    0             sender
[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.09 GBytes   937 Mbits/sec                  receiver

please note, this was done from rescue mode.

about my disk problem: support pulled all four old disks from my server and put in one brand new SSD, a second fairly new one and also a near new HDD, but sadly seem to have missed to put in the last HDD (or didn't plug it correctly) as I now only see three drives at all (also checked via lsscsi). so, we are not finished here yet :-)

at least meanwhile I tried their rescue mode (GRML) and had a look into IPMI which seems quite good working so far. it also looks like their rescue system comes with a boot menu that have an install option for ~~debian~~ quite some distros, but I didn't check any further yet...

if they don't get the last disk done today I am probably starting an install on the SSDs anyway and see if they put the last disk back in 2018 (haha ;-)).

@jarland: did you order a stock offer or something customized for disks? in german their mail reads 12-24h provisioning for stock offers otherwise it might take longer

MikePT · December 2017

@jarland said:

@MikePT said:
@jarland what server did you order?

Ryzen Pro

I hope you let me test it

fLoo · December 2017

@Falzo : you need the -R flag to do iPerf3 in Reverse mode (You send data / upload). Download is fine for me too.

@jarland : yea same result. I've asked the support why its capped and they answered "well you got your promised 500 mbit peak". Its a joke. Advertise with Gbit and cap at 500 and THEN say "everything else is best effort but nonono we dont cap".

Thats so BS.

mtsbatalha · December 2017

fLoo said: well you got your promised 500 mbit peak". Its a joke. Advertise with Gbit and cap at 500 and THEN say "everything else is best effort but nonono we dont cap".

Oh, this not sounds good.

fLoo · December 2017

I would understand that the line may be congested during peak hours and a single server then gets less then 1000 mbit (so between 500-1000 mbit best effort) but its capped 24/7 and so its false advertising IMHO. If they cant effort paying for the upstream traffic (thats whats costly, even for a german ISP - downstream is cheap as f*ck) then they should advertise it like 1000/500 mbit so a customer knows what he is up with.

This package smells a bit fishy - even though sales made a good job. Will try to contact the CEO to discuss this further i guess.

AND: This only effects external routing, internal routing (incl. upload) is uncapped @ 1000 mbit (iperf3 to speed.myloc.de port 5002), the cap only applies externally.

fLoo · December 2017

Another Funfact: Even their speed.myloc.de is capped. So it seems that this is a company wide rule which is in place. Here is an iperf3 from our iperf3-server listed above (speedtest.wtnet.de) to speed.myloc.de:

Download (MYLOC -> WTNET):

        [SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec   703 MBytes   590 Mbits/sec  5225             sender
        [SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec   677 MBytes   568 Mbits/sec                  receiver

UPLOAD (WTNET -> MYLOC):

    [SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  4.10 GBytes  3.52 Gbits/sec  1435             sender
    [SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  4.03 GBytes  3.46 Gbits/sec                  receiver

NoComment · December 2017

I got my ryzen server with 2x 120GB SSDs, but I have some issues with the server.

Rebooting my server doesn't seem to work properly, I simply cannot connect to the server after rebooting it. Rebooting on webtropia's panel works however. I guess I will try contacting their support
My ryzen cpu frequency is 2.2GHz, does this mean its getting underclocked?
Is it too much to ask for a new SSD with only 32 bad sectors? :O

----------------------------------------------------------------------
CPU model            : AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 1700X Eight-Core Processor
Number of cores      : 16
CPU frequency        : 2200.000 MHz
Total amount of ram  : 32190 MB
Total amount of swap : 15617 MB
System uptime        : 0days, 0:1:5
Load average         : 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
OS                   : Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
Arch                 : x86_64 (64 Bit)
Kernel               : 4.4.0-104-generic
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Node Name                       IPv4 address            Download Speed
CacheFly                        205.234.175.175         61.9MB/s
Vultr, Tokyo, JP                108.61.201.151          9.52MB/s
Linode, Tokyo, JP               106.187.96.148          2.99MB/s
DO, Bangalore, IN               139.59.80.215           4.96MB/s
Softlayer, Chennai, IN          169.38.65.84            3.24MB/s
Vultr, Singapore, SG            45.32.100.168           6.24MB/s
DO, Singapore, SG               159.89.192.182          3.04MB/s
Linode, Singapore, SG           139.162.23.4            2.21MB/s
Softlayer, Singapore, SG        119.81.28.170           4.18MB/s
Leaseweb, Singapore, SG         103.254.153.18          3.24MB/s
Softlayer, HongKong, CN         119.81.130.170          3.32MB/s
Leaseweb, HongKong, CN          43.249.36.49            3.67MB/s
Vultr, Sydney, AUS              108.61.212.117          7.31MB/s
Softlayer, Sydney, AUS          168.1.1.212             2.06MB/s
Softlayer, Melbourne, AUS       168.1.65.244            1.95MB/s
Tele2, Gothenberg, SE           90.130.74.151           23.5MB/s
Tele2, Kista, SE                90.130.74.149           15.1MB/s
Softlayer, Milan, IT            159.122.128.84          18.2MB/s
Prometeus, Milan, IT            37.247.53.10            22.9MB/s
Tele2, Riga, LV         90.130.74.113           9.07MB/s
Tele2, Vilnius, LT              90.130.74.117           7.72MB/s
Server.LU, Luxembourg, LU       94.242.192.2            58.8MB/s
Tele2, Frankfurt, DE            90.130.74.155           43.2MB/s
Vultr, Frankfurt, DE            108.61.210.117          92.9MB/s
Linode, Frankfurt, DE           139.162.130.8           55.3MB/s
Softlayer, Frankfurt, DE        159.122.69.4            33.8MB/s
Leaseweb, Frankfurt, DE         37.58.58.140            48.2MB/s
DO, Frankfurt, DE               46.101.218.147          77.5MB/s
Vultr, Paris, FR                108.61.209.127          61.4MB/s
OVH, Gravelines, FR             5.196.90.200            8.70MB/s
OVH, Strasbourg, FR             5.135.128.81            21.4MB/s
OVH, Roubaix, FR                188.165.12.106          27.5MB/s
Online.Net, Paris, FR           62.210.18.40            38.1MB/s
Tele2, Amsterdam, NL            90.130.74.153           36.5MB/s
Vultr, Amsterdam, NL            108.61.198.102          92.1MB/s
DO 2, Amsterdam, NL             188.226.175.227         76.3MB/s
DO 3, Amsterdam, NL             178.62.216.76           80.1MB/s
Leaseweb, Amsterdam, NL         5.79.108.33             77.6MB/s
i3d, Amsterdam, NL              213.163.76.200          30.6MB/s
Vultr, London, UK               108.61.196.101          84.7MB/s
DO, London, UK          46.101.44.214           45.2MB/s
Linode, London, UK              176.58.107.39           33.3MB/s
Softlayer, London, UK           5.10.97.132             35.1MB/s
Softlayer, Mexico, MX           169.57.4.116            3.13MB/s
Softlayer, Brazil, BR           169.57.128.148          3.47MB/s
DO 1, NYC, USA          165.227.194.167         7.89MB/s
DO 2, NYC, USA          192.241.184.88          6.80MB/s
DO 3, NYC, USA          174.138.51.137          10.2MB/s
Vultr, New Jersey, USA          108.61.149.182          24.6MB/s
Linode, Newark, USA             50.116.57.237           11.7MB/s
Vultr, Illinois, USA            107.191.51.12           22.4MB/s
Vultr, Atlanta, USA             108.61.193.166          21.9MB/s
Linode, Atlanta, USA            50.116.39.117           4.85MB/s
Vultr, Miami, USA               104.156.244.232         20.2MB/s
Vultr, Washington, USA          108.61.194.105          14.9MB/s
Softlayer, Seattle, USA         67.228.112.250          3.94MB/s
Leaseweb, Washington, USA       207.244.94.80           6.25MB/s
Vultr, Dallas, USA              108.61.224.175          20.2MB/s
Linode, Dallas, USA             50.116.25.154           4.90MB/s
Softlayer, Dallas, USA          173.192.68.18           5.57MB/s
Leaseweb, Dallas, USA           209.58.153.1            5.31MB/s
Vultr, Los Angeles, USA         108.61.219.200          14.7MB/s
DO, San Francisco, USA          165.227.29.84           4.83MB/s
DO, San Francisco, USA          107.170.223.15          7.14MB/s
Linode, Fremont, USA            50.116.14.9             1.14MB/s
Leaseweb, San Francisco, USA    209.58.135.187          4.15MB/s
DO, Toronto, CA         159.203.57.38           6.20MB/s
OVH, Beauharnois, CA            192.99.19.165           1.66MB/s
EastLink, Canada, CA            24.222.0.194            2.38MB/s
Softlayer, Montreal, CA         169.54.124.180          7.57MB/s
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I/O speed(1st run) : 407 MB/s
I/O speed(2nd run) : 432 MB/s
I/O speed(3rd run) : 282 MB/s
Average I/O speed  : 373.667 MB/s

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   098   098   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       32
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   093   093   000    Old_age   Always       -       33211
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       17
177 Wear_Leveling_Count     0x0013   063   063   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       445
179 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot   0x0013   098   098   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       32
181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total  0x0032   100   100   010    Old_age   Always       -       0
182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total  0x0032   100   100   010    Old_age   Always       -       0
183 Runtime_Bad_Block       0x0013   098   098   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       32
187 Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0032   076   054   000    Old_age   Always       -       24
195 ECC_Error_Rate          0x001a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
199 CRC_Error_Count         0x003e   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
235 POR_Recovery_Count      0x0012   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       16
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       86540481686

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   092   092   000    Old_age   Always       -       35726
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       21
177 Wear_Leveling_Count     0x0013   099   099   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       10
179 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot   0x0013   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total  0x0032   100   100   010    Old_age   Always       -       0
182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total  0x0032   100   100   010    Old_age   Always       -       0
183 Runtime_Bad_Block       0x0013   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
187 Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0032   080   057   000    Old_age   Always       -       20
195 ECC_Error_Rate          0x001a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
199 CRC_Error_Count         0x003e   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
235 POR_Recovery_Count      0x0012   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       20
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       6908727587

mtsbatalha · December 2017

@fLoo give a look on this:

https://zkm.webtropia.com/index.php?group=user&module=faq&action=detail&id=275

Falzo · December 2017

fLoo said: @Falzo : you need the -R flag to do iPerf3 in Reverse mode (You send data / upload). Download is fine for me too.

nope. as default in iperf the client (my server) is sending so that's the upload.
and in reverse mode the client would be receiving. but I am going to check both modes later again, once I finished my debian install ;-)

fLoo · December 2017

@mtsbatalha said:
@fLoo give a look on this:

https://zkm.webtropia.com/index.php?group=user&module=faq&action=detail&id=275

Doesnt help at all. iPerf3 is more accurate than FTP

@Falzo said:

fLoo said: @Falzo : you need the -R flag to do iPerf3 in Reverse mode (You send data / upload). Download is fine for me too.

nope. as default in iperf the client (my server) is sending so that's the upload.
and in reverse mode the client would be receiving. but I am going to check both modes later again, once I finished my debian install ;-)

Yea, its the upload which is throtteled on MyLoc side, sorry for confusion ;-)

Regarding install: I went with Debian 9 > LUKS -> LVM -> Proxmox on top (LVM on top of LUKS)

@smallbibi said:
3. Is it too much to ask for a new SSD with only 32 bad sectors? :O

Yes.

Falzo · December 2017

@fLoo said:

@smallbibi said:
3. Is it too much to ask for a new SSD with only 32 bad sectors? :O

Yes.

hah, don't troll him ;-)

I wouldn't accept that drive, bad sectors is a no go regardless what drive in any server we're talking about. on top of that it's 4 years old, wear leveling count is high, already about 40TB written (on a 120GB SSD ...) so definitely ask for a replacement!

NoComment · December 2017

@Falzo said:

@fLoo said:

@smallbibi said:
3. Is it too much to ask for a new SSD with only 32 bad sectors? :O

Yes.

hah, don't troll him ;-)

I wouldn't accept that drive, bad sectors is a no go regardless what drive in any server we're talking about. on top of that it's 4 years old, wear leveling count is high, already about 40TB written (on a 120GB SSD ...) so definitely ask for a replacement!

Thanks, I was going to leave it be since the server is already so cheap, but I guess I will ask for a replacement. Do you happen to know if its normal for my cpu to show 2.2 GHz for its core frequency? I believe it was supposed to be 3.7 GHz

fLoo · December 2017

@smallbibi said:
Thanks, I was going to leave it be since the server is already so cheap, but I guess I will ask for a replacement. Do you happen to know if its normal for my cpu to show 2.2 GHz for its core frequency? I believe it was supposed to be 3.7 GHz

Check which performance governor is active. Change to "performance" if necessary.

Falzo · December 2017

fLoo said: Yea, its the upload which is throtteled on MyLoc side, sorry for confusion ;-)

# iperf3 -c speedtest.wtnet.de -p 5200 -P 10 -4 -R

[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec   697 MBytes   585 Mbits/sec  950             sender
[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec   681 MBytes   571 Mbits/sec                  receiver

;-)

the both new SSDs now are Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB (was 840 type before)

  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       1450
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       5
177 Wear_Leveling_Count     0x0013   100   100   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       58794476

  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       6
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       2
177 Wear_Leveling_Count     0x0013   100   100   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       1992480389

and also the HDD, still desktop grade TOSHIBA DT01ACA200 is now a fairly new one...

  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   100   016    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   005    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   067    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1351
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       17
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0008   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0

still missing my fourth disk, support has gone silent since, I am afraid there's not much more going to happen during the weekend and new years holiday.

Anyway, I am not in a hurry and as long as they fix that missing piece next week I am good so far.

jar · December 2017

Falzo said: the both new SSDs now are Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB (was 840 type before)

Damn, that's sexy. If you asked me to pick an SSD by model, that'd be the first thing off the top of my head.

Falzo · December 2017

@jarland said:

Falzo said: the both new SSDs now are Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB (was 840 type before)

Damn, that's sexy. If you asked me to pick an SSD by model, that'd be the first thing off the top of my head.

agreed. have 4x250GB of them running as raid10 locally, very nice drives...

edit: @fLoo I now stumbled across that addon IP not to be ordered problem too. will wait for next week anyway, but can you tell if they provide virtual macs for bridged setup? their FAQ seems a bit... small and old on that topic :-)

fLoo · December 2017

@Falzo

@Falzo said:
edit: @fLoo I now stumbled across that addon IP not to be ordered problem too. will wait for next week anyway, but can you tell if they provide virtual macs for bridged setup? their FAQ seems a bit... small and old on that topic :-)

Just setup a pointopoint (/32 IP) and you're ready to go. Just like Hetzner. No MAC setups needed. Gateway is the one of your Hypervisor.

Falzo · December 2017

@fLoo said:

thanks, good to know. need to use own mac-filtering then, I guess.

ikkizenho · December 2017

Got a 100mbit network port.

Waiting for support reply.

mtsbatalha · December 2017

@ikkizenho said:
Got a 100mbit network port.

Waiting for support reply.

Lucky guy.

Silvest · December 2017

[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  1002 MBytes   841 Mbits/sec    0             sender
[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec   987 MBytes   828 Mbits/sec                  receiver

66ccff · December 2017

still not got ryzen server delivered lol

Falzo · December 2017

tech support obviously is working today and took care of the missing HDD, got one with just 232 hours on it, now all is in place as expected and working properly.

while putting granny hardware in first is kind of an odd move, their support has been far better then what I'd expected... seems to depend on (german) working hours, but at least they are responsive and took care of everything in an acceptable (to me) timeframe.

so far I am satisfied and might need to adjust my former opinion on webtropia/myloc. we'll see about in a few month ;-)

ehab · December 2017

@Falzo said:

when will we see a new 3'rd signature line? :P

Falzo · December 2017

@ehab said:

@Falzo said:

when will we see a new 3'rd signature line? :P

lol, nah I doubt that. but make sure you use my aff-link if you want to sign for any of their products: http://www.webtropia.com/?kwk=148053074210048175209163 roflmao

for real, webtropia didn't have so much of a good reputation for years. I watched bruteforce attacks and a lot of spam coming from myloc servers incoming on several other services of mine, mylocs abuse department never replied to any complaints or requests...

so I never touched them before and this is now giving it a first try to see, if they evolved somehow and are usable maybe even for production services. I guess only time will tell...

also their pricing range esp. for vservers is not really attractive compared to the other usual suspects I am recommending ;-)

Ympker · December 2017

@Falzo said:
tech support obviously is working today and took care of the missing HDD, got one with just 232 hours on it, now all is in place as expected and working properly.

while putting granny hardware in first is kind of an odd move, their support has been far better then what I'd expected... seems to depend on (german) working hours, but at least they are responsive and took care of everything in an acceptable (to me) timeframe.

so far I am satisfied and might need to adjust my former opinion on webtropia/myloc. we'll see about in a few month ;-)

The two bad things about them I've heard were always the downtime and bad network so you might wanna look out for these

kkiskk · December 2017

I have ordered AMD 1700x Dedicated Server on 24/12, till now have not received it, should I open a ticket ask for status or should be patient?

Ympker · December 2017

@kkiskk said:
I have ordered AMD 1700x Dedicated Server on 24/12, till now have not received it, should I open a ticket ask for status or should be patient?

Be patient. It's either gonna happen today or tuesday.
Sunday/Monday is holiday here in Germany.

Falzo · December 2017

@kkiskk said:
I have ordered AMD 1700x Dedicated Server on 24/12, till now have not received it, should I open a ticket ask for status or should be patient?

did you get a confirmation mail of that order?

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