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not rocket science is it. All you need to do is a simple whois and whois/host history.
not accessible from anywhere, is it?
Not at the moment no, Doing some server/site work... But this is nothing to do with FNS,
@DanielM, why do you ban the US? When running a business, you should be making decisions based on what's best for your business. The USA is a thriving, large economy and is not on any sanction list. While you may have some personal opinions about the US, I fail to see how, as a provider, this is a good business decision? Care to explain? You of course don't have to, I'm just curious, that's all
Note: I'm from the UK, and a UK-born citizen
I think its the fact that if you provide services to US citizens, you basically give the US government permission to extradite you back to the US on any reason they can come up with.
@DanielM
You really do hate the USA don't you
I fail to see how this is an issue when running a VPS host. Under laws in most countries, the service provider is not responsible for what the customer does, as long as the provider makes every effort to halt any illegal activity once notified.
I don't know, I was only stating what he his reason could be. A few UK citizens don't like the extradition process between the UK to USA and how our government sucks up to the USA.
A UK citizen is being extradited for hosting links, despite that none of his data was in the US and all within the UK, and he never broke a single UK law. But apparently he broke a US law since his domain went through Verisign.
Yes I'm aware of this case. While I am going to make no comment on the validity of the US's claims of jurisdiction, this person did run an illegal website. He did break UK law. It is illegal to run a site which links to knowingly infringing content. This has been affirmed by the UK Court's ruling on blocking the Pirate Bay for BT, Virgin, etc..
In this case, the key element is that the person being extradited was the person who actually ran the website; not the host running it. As long as the host has taken the website offline, then they are in the clear. (Ref: US DMCA and EU E-Commerce Directive)
No, he did not break any UK laws, he wasn't being prosecuted in the UK for anything.
There was a change in the law, but his actions were years before this.
Yes he did. Just because he wasn't being prosecuted in the UK doesn't mean he wasn't breaking UK law.
It was stated by the court that he didn't break any UK laws, but broke a US laws, despite the fact he never been to the US nor used any hosted any data in the US.
Quite right: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2012:088:0001:0112:EN:PDF
Ins't united states one of the few countries which hasn't taken over another country ... to rule?
Verisign is a company based out of the USA. The USA government has the right to lawfully get involved with Verisign and its customers without the consent of other governments.
Like I said before ... guys calm down. Lets wait for the ticket to be posted.
We do not accept Iranians either for legal reasons, nothing against them personally (or company wise) but we have our laws....
Its rare to get Iranian visitors anyway now, their country has its own intranet.
@DanielM I find it very weird that you would block US visitors as you can still get sent to the US for breaking US law... even if it is legal in the UK. cough TVLinks cough
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/london/tv-shack-extradition-approved-every-uk-citizen-is-now-at-risk/3427
But this is not the case of an Iranian, this man is a US Citizen
Oops... it's TVShack not TVLinks... sorry it's early here
I got confused too.
You have a customer and find evidence he could be from Iran. Do you risk it and allow him to be your customer but has the possible chance of getting shut down big time, or suspend the customer until you know?
The company was trying to protect their ass.
I use common sense, did the customer connect from a US residential IP? Did they give a US address? If yes, I have no reason to suspend.
You use unspecified misterious Austrian laws excuse too often But sometimes it would be good if you would actually know them Anyway, EU reduced dealings with Iran only on few areas (oil, energy sector and limited dealings with cental Iran bank) and you can find in your local store products from Iran easily (check next time details on "Kotányi Estragon gerebelt 100ml Glas" -> austrian packet -> I have one :P).
@nabo: linking a 112 page document doesn't do your argument any good. Care to point out what Page/paragraph/clause in there prohibits providing Internet services to individual Iranians, or find transfers from individuals for such services, etc?
@daniel: sorry, but your relative technical immaturity shows in light of @mitgib's excellent solution. To those I would also add the Paypal account status - if it says US-verified, you're good to go.
Sometimes I think the poor folks who have to bear with this just because of their names/(last|sur)names may pragmatically be better off just legally changing their names (TSA, etc. )
I guess your right, but I wouldn't hate the host over it. Would just email them and sort it.
I find absolutely no reason to deny services to an individual based on the bullshit slapfights between government powers. That's one game we'll do our best to avoid.
I made it clear, I do not like the american regime, there is nothing up with americans themselfs
Iraq? Afghanistan to name a few....
Corrupt governments siding with big corporations which are for profit.. Just shows what a corrupt country the united states is. One only needs to look at some of the laws being put through. CISPA/SOPA/Patriot act etc these are clearly for corporations not the american people