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  • DanielMDanielM Member

    @Spirit said: EU reduced dealings with Iran only on few areas (oil, energy sector and limited dealings with cental Iran bank)

    By who's orders? i wonder....

  • @BassHost said: Verisign is a company based out of the USA. The USA government has the right to lawfully get involved with Verisign and its customers without the consent of other governments.

    So consider this: You buy a domain from India and host porn on the website it points to. Your website (porn) is hosted in the US (or whatever country you are from) and you are also from the US. However hosting porn is illegal in India but legal in the US.
    How would you like to be extradited to India for the actions you have done?

  • HC_RoHC_Ro Member
    edited May 2012

    @DanielM said: CISPA/SOPA/Patriot act etc these are clearly for corporations not the american people

    Firstly the Patriot Act exists,

    SOPA got squshed and CISPA still needs to go through the senate and the White House which has made notion of a veto.

    You don't think stuff like this gets proposed in Europe and UK as well?

    There seems to be alot more of this thats actually law over there than here.

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  • @HC_Ro said: There seems to be alot more of this thats actually law over there than here.

    Examples?

  • DanielMDanielM Member

    @HC_Ro said: SOPA got squshed and CISPA still needs to go through the senate and the White House which has made notion of a veto.

    Just like the NDAA then???

  • specklspeckl Member

    "Dans Blog: Non-Biased News, Game Reviews, Tech Reviews"

    @DanielM Where is the unbiased news on your website? I can't find any.

  • DanielMDanielM Member

    @speckl said: @DanielM Where is the unbiased news on your website? I can't find any.

    All of it is unbiased, But what does my blog have to do with this?

  • nabonabo Member

    @quirkyquark said: linking a 112 page document doesn't do your argument any good. Care to point out what Page/paragraph/clause in there prohibits providing Internet services to individual Iranians, or find transfers from individuals for such services, etc?

    I didn't argue over anything here. I just stated that @daniel's assumption can be backed up by the relevant EU regulation. And I solely provided the regulation in question. It's always a mess discussing legal texts when nobody has ever read them but apparently seems to know anything about them, either from a third person, the mighty spirit or another source.

    But I might elaborate a bit: the regulation is specifically also regulating so called dual-use technology, so to say technology or service that is legit on first sight but can also be used to support anything the EU want's to forbid in trade. However, as @daniel also stated, the regulation might not be applicable in this case. But I guess your PDF-Reader is capable of doing an inside-document-search of the word "Iranian". ;-)

  • KMyersKMyers Member

    @DanielM said: Ofcourse i have read it (its one of the reasons all US based traffic is banned from any of my servers/websites.) Perhaps you should come out to see reality rather than what a piece of paper says.

    And its not the american people i dislike. its the regime i do not like.

    Hello,
    Are you a complete idiot or do you just play one on TV?

  • DanielMDanielM Member

    @HostBluff said: Are you a complete idiot or do you just play one on TV?

    Grow up keith. fools like you who are no doubt flag waving fools need to see what is realy happening. I block united states for a reason. mostly because of there corrupt legal system and the extradition treaty.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @DanielM My tinfoil hat manufacturer went out of business recently. Who do you use? Or do they refuse to ship to the U.S.?

  • I don't agree with the US extradition policy, but I don't hate all Americans and ban them from my site because if it

  • DanielMDanielM Member

    @jarland said: My tinfoil hat manufacturer went out of business recently. Who do you use? Or do they refuse to ship to the U.S.?

    Tesco usually :P

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited May 2012

    @Daniel Plus it's really not an issue if you abide by their copyright laws. So long as the recently discussed legislation doesn't pass, and as of today it has not, their demands are fairly reasonable. I don't agree with everything my government does either, but I can appreciate the growing percentage of one of the world's largest economies being attributed to intellectual property, combined with the clear international picture recently painted by the collapse of the U.S. housing market that showed us all just how connected our economies are. As of right now, I've not heard a fool proof plan from anyone on how to deal with intellectual property laws in a global economy. You've got a balance where one end destroys individual liberty and the other end damages the idea of a productive and civilized but regulated economy/society.

    It can't all be summed up in a day, it isn't a simple issue nor a simple fix. I don't defend my governments actions in relation to the Internet, but it would take a fool not to see their predicament.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @quirkyquark said: firstnetserv.co.uk has address 10.4.183.22

    "In my own personal Internet, I am KING! And you puny nations are BANNED!"

    "And don't be thinking that I picked 10.4.183.22 out of thin air to make it look like I have tens of thousands of servers - it was just the next available number. Here in Danielstan, we are facing ipv4 exhaustion! In fact...we're facing ipv6 exhaustion!"

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  • DanielMDanielM Member

    @raindog308 said: "In my own personal Internet, I am KING! And you puny nations are BANNED!"

    Read my previous post regarding this you bafoon.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @DanielM said: Read my previous post regarding this you bafoon.

    "And in Danielstan, we even have our own language! It's like English only spelled differently! U R BANNED!"

  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    @DanielM said: Read my previous post regarding this you bafoon.

    You've taken tin foil hats to a whole new level

  • @rds100 said: You are a US citizen and they reject you because you are an ethnic Iranian? Good for you - find a good lawyer and get a lot of money.

    And don't forget to preserve evindence about all this - i.e. take screenshots of the ticket where they said it is because you are Iranian.

    Any private business can make there own regulations and rules regardless. If it's a private company and don't want you because you have blue eyes, they can infact not hire you. It's called owning a private company, I doubt the OP's server admin has racial rules though, that would be pretty retarded.

  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    @SpeakWhatsReal said: because you have blue eyes, they can infact not hire you.

    They can in fact lose it all over that, I doubt you really wanted to go here, with employee/employer laws.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited May 2012

    @SpeakWhatsReal I'm not certain about companies in France, but I know in the U.S. that couldn't be further from the truth. If it involves race, religion, or sexuality any company could find itself in deep water. If the person has a darker skin tone, the department of justice would be all over it in 6 hours and it would be the only thing on television for weeks.

  • @jarland said: @SpeakWhatsReal I'm not certain about companies in France, but I know in the U.S. that couldn't be further from the truth. If it involves race, religion, or sexuality any company could find itself in deep water.

    The EU is very strict on the human rights thing, it makes it hard to deport terrorist who want to blow you up.

  • edited May 2012

    I admit, Im not a laywer, but I do think private companies are alot more lean on this matter. All I want to know now is why hasn't the OP Gave us the hosting that did this to him? Because most of these host's are not really "private" businesses they are run by a Data Center under there own T.O.S. and guidelines.

    Anyone know the host that banned him because of Race? If so, to be honest you need alot of money if you want to do any legal action, the best thing you can do is just get the word out here and let everyone know that, that host is a trash and people should stay far away.

  • nabonabo Member

    @SpeakWhatsReal said: banned him because of Race

    Maybe we should take into consideration that there's in fact a difference between race and nationality/statehood.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @nabo A distinction that is both accurate and, from my limited personal experience, oddly disappearing in the U.S. lately.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @bijan588 said: Ill post screenies in the morning, on my blackberry in bed.

    ...and?

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  • @DanielM said: Iraq? Afghanistan to name a few....

    We did take over them. I want you to go to those countries and ask civilians what they think of the United States. Anyhow we never ruled them ... our goal was just to make those places a better place.

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  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    @BassHost said: our goal was just to make those places a better place.

    Our goal was just to makes these places a better place for our corporations to rape.

    FTFY

  • BassHostBassHost Member
    edited May 2012

    @miTgiB said: Our goal was just to makes these places a better place for our corporations to rape.

    I think the big corporations are all ready there.

  • DimeCadmiumDimeCadmium Member
    edited May 2012

    @DanielM said: @BassHost said: Ins't united states one of the few countries which hasn't taken over another country ... to rule?

    Iraq? Afghanistan to name a few....

    I'll admit we've taken over a number of countries. We did not take over Iraq or Afghanistan, and to say we did makes you look like an idiot.

    We DID (help) set up a new (democratic) government. I disagree with that myself, but we do not RULE them.

    @jarland said: If it involves race, religion, or sexuality any company could find itself in deep water.

    You forgot age (but only if over 40!)

    @danielm if you have nothing against the American people, why are you blocking them? You're not blocking the American "regime", you're blocking the people who you have "nothing against"; and most anyone on here even could easily get around that thus you're still "liable" / subject to extradition even though you've got the mass of us blocked. If you really don't want to be subject to extradition, don't break the law. Yes, people have been extradited from the UK without breaking UK laws - but they WERE breaking US laws (or were going to be tried for such, anyway).

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