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WHMCS Pricing Changes

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  • what will happen with the owned license after next year ?

  • cociu said: what will happen with the owned license after next year ?

    It seems existing owned license users aren't affected - http://www.whmcs.com/price-change-faq/

    What does this mean for existing Owned Licenses?

    Existing Owned Licenses are unaffected by these changes. Owned licenses will continue to provide the same unlimited active client usage as before.

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  • LeeLee Veteran

    Branding removal on all but the first plan, lol.

  • Although currently is no change or any affect to owned license owner, but i am believe they will come out a new support plan to charge existing owned license holder.

  • @raindog308 said:

    GCat said: I laughed when I saw this and "yeah, I saw this one coming"

    What else do you see coming?

    Hilary Trump 2025

    Wall 2018

    China invades North Korea 2017

    Donald Trump threatens nuclear war too quickly 2017

    Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump invade everyones privacy and give the NSA more power than they know what to do with 2017/2018

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  • active clients means active product ? or just registered to whmcs ?
    its a shame they made such a move

  • @cociu said:
    what will happen with the owned license after next year ?

    What does this mean for existing Owned Licenses?

    Existing Owned Licenses are unaffected by these changes. Owned licenses will continue to provide the same unlimited active client usage as before.

    so we good (:

  • @GCat said:

    @raindog308 said:

    GCat said: I laughed when I saw this and "yeah, I saw this one coming"

    What else do you see coming?

    Hilary Trump 2025

    Wall 2018

    China invades North Korea 2017

    Donald Trump threatens nuclear war too quickly 2017

    Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump invade everyones privacy and give the NSA more power than they know what to do with 2017/2018

    You forgot Brexit :D

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  • Advicerxyz said: active clients means active product ? or just registered to whmcs ? its a shame they made such a move

    "An active client is defined as a client with at least one active product, service, add-on or domain."

  • If you actually look at it, its really good pricing even though its increasing.

  • @jesin said:

    @GCat said:

    @raindog308 said:

    GCat said: I laughed when I saw this and "yeah, I saw this one coming"

    What else do you see coming?

    Hilary Trump 2025

    Wall 2018

    China invades North Korea 2017

    Donald Trump threatens nuclear war too quickly 2017

    Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump invade everyones privacy and give the NSA more power than they know what to do with 2017/2018

    You forgot Brexit :D

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    You see that ladies?

    OnApp has their in to do similar shit. Now that WHMCS has done it they could very well announce something similar this week and WHMCS already took the heat.

    Francisco

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  • Just got me an owned license while I still could. Because Why not.

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    They have also confirmed that suspended users for none payment are counted towards 'active' users and that the data they collect from your WHMCS install is not looking at the Status= Active when determining how many active clients you have, it looks at "Products/Services" 1 (1 Total) fields.

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  • GCatGCat Member
    edited October 2016

    @Francisco said:
    You see that ladies?

    OnApp has their in to do similar shit. Now that WHMCS has done it they could very well announce something similar this week and WHMCS already took the heat.

    Francisco

    Stallion Billing, coming soon - a Frantech Product?

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  • @AnthonySmith said:
    They have also confirmed that suspended users for none payment are counted towards 'active' users and that the data they collect from your WHMCS install is not looking at the Status= Active when determining how many active clients you have, it looks at "Products/Services" 1 (1 Total) fields.

    So, decode the checking file, have it return dummy data to WHMCS like only 5 active clients, and have infinite clients

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @GCat said:

    @AnthonySmith said:
    They have also confirmed that suspended users for none payment are counted towards 'active' users and that the data they collect from your WHMCS install is not looking at the Status= Active when determining how many active clients you have, it looks at "Products/Services" 1 (1 Total) fields.

    So, decode the checking file, have it return dummy data to WHMCS like only 5 active clients, and have infinite clients

    I doubt they do any call homes, that'd be iffy at best. The license gets cached locally and it likely just carries a variable of how many clients are allowed. WHMCS then refers to this data on every (admin?) page view.

    Francisco

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  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    Betting this was the 'security issue' they patched with the license module a month or so ago.

  • BrianHarrisonBrianHarrison Member, Patron Provider

    @ServerObsessed said:
    Time to move away from WHMCS? Curious to know what others are thinking about this.

    The price change basically affects no one who would be sensitive to WHMCS price changes. If you have over 1000 active clients, a $10 license fee change won't even register on the radar.

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

    I don't like it, but I don't really care. I've always used WHMCS.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    "Developing, improving and providing support for the WHMCS product has ongoing costs, and therefore a subscription based model makes more sense."

    ...for WHMCS, Ltd.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    Francisco said: OnApp has their in to do similar shit. Now that WHMCS has done it they could very well announce something similar this week and WHMCS already took the heat.

    Hosts around here would have a lot more reason to complain about SolusVM licensing going that way. You only need one WHMCS, no matter how many servers you have. SolusVM, however, that's a direct per-node cut. Would drive people here away very fast I'd wager, while WHMCS definitely won't (what ya gonna do, hostbill? lol).

  • WHMCS is getting greedy: a fair solution would have been in example this:

    up to 250 Customer: $ 9,95

    from 251 to 1000 Customer: $14,95
    from 1001 or more Customer: $19,95
    from 1001 or more Customer: $19,95

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  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    Maybe I should put the client management script I use for AFreeCloud on GitHub. :D

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  • For those who asked about the existing owned license, this is what I got from them:

    Hello Miguel,

    >

    Thank you for contacting WHMCS with your inquiry.

    >

    With the new pricing structure, the decision to no longer offer an owned license was made because developing, improving and providing support for the WHMCS product has ongoing costs, and therefore a subscription based model makes more sense. As of today, it is no longer possible to purchase an Owned license.

    >

    Having said that, all clients who currently have an Owned license will not be affected. You will still be able to use your Owned-xx license and renew your Support and Updates to download the latest release of WHMCS or contact our Support Team for technical assistance. You would not be required to download (perhaps he meant downgrade?) to a Monthly plan and you can renew your Support and Updates at any time. The time you pay for will be added to the end of your current Support and Updates if you choose to renew now. Alternatively, you can renew your Support and Updates after the first free year.

    >

    To do this, please follow the below steps:

    >

    1. Login at: www.whmcs.com/members
    2. Select your License Key from the Active Products/Services box
    3. On the left you should see a Support and Updates box. Click the Renew/Extend Now link
    4. You will have the option to have Support and Updates for 6 months ($59.95) or 12 months ($99.95)
    5. Click 'Continue' and then 'Checkout' and make your payment
    6. I hope this information is helpful. If we can provide any further assistance, do let us know.

    >

    Best regards,

    >

    Nam-Anh V.
    Customer Service & Licensing Specialist
    WHMCS, Ltd.

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  • Anyway, such a pricing change is not big deal for 1000+ active clients, as someone else said, it wont be noticed.

  • LeeLee Veteran
    edited October 2016

    If someone puts up an ad for a job on here you all shoot him/her down for the low amount, not a living wage etc. You need the income to pay the living wage.

    WHMCS is a company with several employees, offices and all the associated costs. Especially for a UK based firm.

    Love it, hate it or indifferent towards it bills need to be paid. Prices go up in all companies eventually.

    The reality is that that the changes are nothing at this time. Those that will pay the top tier price quite frankly have nothing to complain about.

    If a couple of $'s are not worth it then the options are build your own, the time and cost of that will far exceed the WHMCS prices over many years. Move to a different panel like Blesta and save a couple of bucks, but if that was your worry before then you would have done it.

    If you just want a bitch about more money than anything else, carry on.

  • @Lee said:
    If someone puts up an ad for a job on here you all shoot him/her down for the low amount, not a living wage etc. You need the income to pay the living wage.

    WHMCS is a company with several employees, offices and all the associated costs. Especially for a UK based firm.

    Love it, hate it or indifferent towards it bills need to be paid. Prices go up in all companies eventually.

    The reality is that that the changes are nothing at this time. Those that will pay the top tier price quite frankly have nothing to complain about.

    If a couple of $'s are not worth it then the options are build your own, the time and cost of that will far exceed the WHMCS prices over many years. Move to a different panel like Blesta and save a couple of bucks, but if that was your worry before then you would have done it.

    If you just want a bitch about more money than anything else, carry on.

    The generic nature of any Business is, if prices are raise up, there must BE additional Benefits for the customer..But not here. You get nothing for your additional paid amount. Only one Business can raise up prices (and sometimes reduce) without additional Benefits: The Gast Station in your town!

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    I am well aware that nothing that is said will be listened too, I just don't think there is really any justification except profit for this price hike, its not like that have made any significant improvements or added valuable features, customer service quality is at an all time low.

    The only justification so far is that it is apparently more valuable to me because I have over 1000 customers, so I should pay more.

    If I was a builder and I was successful I don't expect to pay more for my materials.

    I would respect it more if they either said, we just want to increase revenue or if they said because we are planning XYZ and need to fund it, but just because I have over 1000 customers.. that's just stupid.

    Apparently I am now considered a big host? lol, I will tell me PA... I mean dog.

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider
    edited October 2016

    @Internoc24 said:

    @Lee said:
    If someone puts up an ad for a job on here you all shoot him/her down for the low amount, not a living wage etc. You need the income to pay the living wage.

    WHMCS is a company with several employees, offices and all the associated costs. Especially for a UK based firm.

    Love it, hate it or indifferent towards it bills need to be paid. Prices go up in all companies eventually.

    The reality is that that the changes are nothing at this time. Those that will pay the top tier price quite frankly have nothing to complain about.

    If a couple of $'s are not worth it then the options are build your own, the time and cost of that will far exceed the WHMCS prices over many years. Move to a different panel like Blesta and save a couple of bucks, but if that was your worry before then you would have done it.

    If you just want a bitch about more money than anything else, carry on.

    The generic nature of any Business is, if prices are raise up, there must BE additional Benefits for the customer..But not here. You get nothing for your additional paid amount. Only one Business can raise up prices (and sometimes reduce) without additional Benefits: The Gast Station in your town!

    But the gas station has to pay for the gas, food, employees to run it.

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