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Newsflash: a great many people object to such "unfair" practices! China being the best known case in point, but by no means the most competitive - labour cost cutting wise - locale any longer. These days, many Chinese (more or less) factories are relocating to the likes of Myanmar, Thailand or Malaysia. Others, unable or unwilling to make such a move, are closing down en masse. Just wait and see what happens when Africa comes online - if Senegal's French language BPO industry is anything to judge by!
You guys from the high income countries are spoiled. $1700/month is a decent pay, if it is without taxes. Actually it's about what i make (after taxes), and it's considered good for where i live.
Hah... from where I from, $300/mo is a decent income.
Even I make less than 1200k/mo.
Not spoiled. They have bills to pay. In Hong Kong, US$1700 will barely cover the rent for a decent 2 bedroom. Not an hour's drive away, across the border, in Shenzhen, China, you can rent a much bigger 3 bedroom in a brand new, safe development - overlooking Hong Kong if you want - and have more than enough to live comfortably. Which is exactly what I do, except a bit further out, in suburban Guangzhou.
Heh, all this indignation at such a scandalous, low ball job offer, which is actually very attractive (objectively speaking, from a global perspective). Wake up, people! There's a whole, big, bad world out there! And getting better trained and more qualified by the day. And, yep, they are all very hungry little critters and thanks to your bread and butter - the internet - they are out to get your cushy, high paying jobs away from you. One way or another, all long distance. Dreaming of a "fair" level playing field and indignation will not help pay bills. Better deal with it. Cut costs, relocate to a cheaper environment. Or find a globalization-proof job. Or start your own small business and outsource like hell! You can't beat them, so join them
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You just don't get it. It's not me that wants my cost of living to be that high. Are you going to get my landlord to significantly lower my rent, or get the supermarket to sell me groceries for 90% off? Is EH? Running a race to the bottom benefits nobody.
Then EH should stick to posting their job offers in those countries. It's bad enough that businesses like this deny a living wage to a local citizen, now the country has even less money to support the jobless person! The UK should tax the hell out of them as they export value out of the economy in that way.
Nobody living paycheck to paycheck is bragging about being rich. The amounts may be different for everyone, but the underlying economics remains the same. Stop looking at the number of zeros on the check and really think about how the system works.
I make less than 1200k/mo as well. That's an amazing salary.
I wasn't trying to focus on Brexit itself, but the underlying economics that may have people against this kind of race-to-the-bottom style of globalization.
Yes, of course it is. If it wasn't, they wouldn't be offering less than UK wages for the job. That is to say, if the intent of a corporation was to allow foreign economies to be as rich and robust as the UK economy, they pay the same wages a UK worker gets. Only then will the economies of those foreign countries actually benefit from that "whopping wage". Until that happens, there is only relative wealth by a few (still exploited) individuals while the rest of the population still has garbage strewn everywhere. The wages are lower because this is not intended to be a hand up.
It wouldn't be exporting value from the local economy, so it would be more sustainable, yes.
1700 USD are equal to 17000 EGP which is a very decent salary for engineers where I live.
Tragedy of the commons. This is why a smart country would put in place laws that prevent corporations from exporting value. I'm not singling out EH in my admonishments; they just happen to be the one's who started this thread.
Not that much of a jump if it's true that they're expecting a professional level worker but not even paying a living wage for such a person. Especially if the given pay doesn't include expenses, taxes, etc.
I'm merely pointing out that an economy must be sound for any of this sort of trade to make sense. Money leaving the US has consequences for people living in the US. They might be good, or they might be bad. Scenarios like yours don't give a full accounting, and that's what I object to the most.
The only way I could take 'em off is if I put 'em on first. :-O
Well, my friend, time to stop dreaming and wake up, take a deep breath and smell the new local economy: the world at large! I know what I'm talking about: I'm Polish, but resident of Hong Kong (best jurisdiction tax wise bar none). I live in China (much more affordable than Hong Kong). I run a business in Hong Kong (#1 business friendly jurisdiction in the world). Starting up a new one in Ireland this fall (#1 locale for startups in all of EU and all those businesses to help relocate from the UK to the EU, that is to say Ireland... thank God for Brexit
Seychelles, too, I think (probably #1 locale for any online service business - still investigating that). All above very pleasant environments to work in, too (I'm talking real live businessses, with offices, not offshore shelf companies here). And the two things you will never, ever hear me crying in my soup about: living costs and taxes 
The commute is a bit of a bitch, but what the hell, gives me time to think and learn and scheme... er, plan ahead... and enjoy LET 
LET is visited from many many countries all around the world, so their post reaches some possible takers alright. They shouldn't post here because what, it hurts teh feelingz of a local UK worker? Well wake up then, outsourcing is a thing already, you can't stifle it by making up silly restrictions that global job offers should only be posted locally, or whatever. And as someone potentially on the other side of it, I can't see why someone in Moldova or Belarus shouldn't be allowed to make a decent living working remotely for a UK company.
Ah, but now you've fallen into my trap! :-) If we can agree that it is as you say it is, a one-world economy, then everyone should be making the same amount of money for the same job everywhere! As evidenced in this thread, that is clearly not the case today. So if you're saying it will be the case soon enough, help us out and establish the rate a company must be able to pay to hire a system administrator anywhere in the world. Go ahead. I'm all ears.
And for a really fun followup, please do let us know how much every CEO should be making, too . . .
Hell, I never said nor implied that! We are talking economics here... you know, supply and demand thingy?
I did. Taxes would be pretty low on that amount in the UK due to the it not being much over the tax-free allowance.
Both a stupid comment and a straw man.
Even within a single localised market there will be large variations in what people earn.
We are in a global economy and in a global economy there will always be pricing variations that will be exploited They will be exploited by companies and by workers.
What kind of timezone are we looking at here?
As pointed out in other posts, they are located in London. Probably a good indication.
@daily - thanks, pity as it conflicts with my working hours.
Better double check with EV - they seem to be looking for 2 sysadmins, probably to cover 2 shifts:
So, in your opinion, it's OK French or US companies selling vps worldwide for peanuts because, due to their country infrastructures and/or government funds they are able to give low prices, but it is not fair for a small hoster to hire someone from countries with lower salaries, to cut some costs! Experienced admins with a lot of skills (you know, universities outside US are good, too!) could cost even lower than 1000$/m and those people can be much more skilled than some admins in the US paid for 4-5K/m.
It's the globalization. Countries like US or most of EU think that globalization is God! In fact, it opens the gap between citizens from different countries and creates third, fourth or ninth worlds... And many of the bad happens in the world (terror, riots, hunger) are due to this "evolution". Sad, ugly, unfair but true...
P.S. @impossiblystupid Sorry for my comment, I just noticed your nickname...
40 hours a week translates to ~6 hours per day. For this salary + considering the legal minimum salary paid in my country its an awesome offer.
@Maounique
What's your opinion on the free market and supply and demand of employees in the global workplace
Can't have an existential conversation here without your input.
Wonder if OP is crying into his keyboard or someone has sent a CV in from here.
So 50 out of 60 comments is about how 1.7k is low payment? Well if it's low - don't apply and carry on.
Tl;Dr of everything - 1.7k is next to nothing in some countries and more than enough in other countries. This thread is obviously meant for the 'other countries'.
End of discussion?
he probably is doing the one and only right thing here, by not letting himself be drawn into that discussion.
+1
US $1700 is a good wage rate here here if you ask me @ the moment
Also it's work from home so, you save the traveling exp.
@sdglhm
That's a great salary! Where are you working? Are there open jobs?
If it's a UNIX admin, you can skip the razor.
I am curious to know:
How will @EvolutionHost provide the two weeks of training? Is he/she going to provide the training entirely online? Will @EvolutionHost fly the new employee out for onsite training?
How will @EvolutionHost vet prospective employees, whose job requires a high level of trust?
How do prospective employees trust that they will be paid if the business gets into trouble, considering that the domain was created less than 18 months ago? (... and what recourse do they have from a far away place if the pay does not arrive?)
Its equal to about MYR7000. That's a lot of money here.
That money is not bad for a working from home job. Add the money you would pay for transportation, lunch and clothes if you were working in an office to it.