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INIZ.COM - Jump the gun on termination - Terrible Custom Service
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Throw the PDF in here. like I stated above.
In cases like this, opinions will be formed on facts, not on something someone says (Not saying you are lying).
Um i haven't commited fraud so if i ended up on that then that would be false. i paid my service and didn't do anything fraudulently
4 pages and no memes, yet?
I am not throwing the PDF in as it has personal information on it.
Then edit that info out.
You came here to trash talk someone I like, in a way that I've repeatedly seen people do here without adequate justification (consistently due to their lack of knowledge), why does it upset you that I want you to prove it?
Here I thought all of those hours managing nodes made me almost qualified to say that I know what I'm doing but you're saying that just having a VPS with RamNode is enough? I'll make sure to update my resume. By the way, I don't want to hear about your competence when you truly believe that a server can only be attacked by hostname, that free cloudflare provides DDOS protection, and that you have to be targeted personally to be a DDOS victim. You clearly know very little about this, because I know all of that to be factually untrue.
That isn't your provider's problem. Their problem is that there is a problem, your problem is that you didn't even offer to investigate or troubleshoot, you immediately blamed them and claimed that your unmanaged server receiving an attack could not be your responsibility.
This he can know, and I'm guessing it isn't true. Don't make assumptions. If he shut off your VPS and a DDOS on another IP flooded the node, I think he would know about it, don't you?
Wow. You were rude to him right from the start of this weren't you?
There it is. You didn't go ask anyone to DDOS you so it's not your fault and his service is "terrible" because of this and you immediately jumped to the conclusion that you were going to have to go to PayPal with this.
Your problem is that you immediately assumed he was an asshole and had no information to give you, would be of no help, and you jumped on him as such. Maybe if you started a conversation like an adult you'd be treated like one in response.
All figured out, got all of the information I wanted so that I could feel comfortable drawing my own conclusion. Thank you.
Well no because why should i lose out on money for a VPS which was DDOS'd but not my fault and i didn't cause it i didn't provoke it like know 1 knew my ip and no domains were linked apart from the small amount of time. He claims i provoked the DDOS attack hence why i was defensive.
"By the way, I don't want to hear about your competence when you truly believe that a server can only be attacked by hostname, that free cloudflare provides DDOS protection, and that you have to be targeted personally to be a DDOS victim. You clearly know very little about this, because I know all of that to be factually untrue."
I never stated any of this stop twisting my words...
I said my ip wasn't link to a hostname and no 1 knew my IP so any one who did was due to previous customers of the IP not because of me therefore i never violated the terms of INIZ as i didn't provoke a DDOS attack..
I also never said cloudflare protects me from DDOS i said the IP's were cloudflare IP's surely the server logs should be showing correct IP's not cloudflare ones (surely you can configure it to do that)
I never claimed to need to be targeted personally to be a DDOS victim i just said it wasn't personal and i was terminated for this reason "At this time we are reluctant to continue hosting you and giving you another chance due to your unprofessional behaviour and attracting DDoS in a matter of hours.", Which is clearly not fair as i didn't even give me IP to any one and didn't have it linked to a domain name so therefore no relation with my services and the DDOS. It was clearly just a attack on that ip meaning i didn't "attact DDOS"
Let's assume that I am for a moment and just conclude with the finest words with no interpretation from me:
Enough said.
Well no because i was terminated for this "attracting DDoS in a matter of hours. " but i didn't attract the DDOS i suppose i was attacked by a DDOS but still not seeing them logs... but i didn't attact it and therefore i shouldn't have been terminated and refused refund under that reason
@fma965 You're making a fool out of yourself, just move on with your life.
If one of my websites was attacked, and a provider terminated me as a result, I would be apologizing to them and moving on. It's not uncommon for websites to be attacked nowadays, even at random. This is a risk you should be aware of, and willing to take, before choosing to manage websites. I don't think it's fair, but it happens, and being aware of issues before they occur rather than choosing to ignore them helps exponentially in problem solving. It's not your fault you were attacked, but a providers network still suffered, and from an objective point of view, it was your website that caused this, especially given the short window between registration and attack. I don't know what else to say, other than move on, live and learn. Now you are aware that you could be the victim of denial of service attacks, and that hosts can/will terminate as a result. Find a service that works for your needs and hopefully you won't face the same issues down the road.
But thats my point it wasn't my website that caused that as my website wasn't even linked to that IP. except for for about 5 minutes of that time (at the end)
Let me be clear i am not saying i wasn't responsible for the DDOS against my VPS but i am saying it wasn't my services that caused it since they weren't linked apart for about 5minutes at the end
5 minutes is enough if someone's targeting you.
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If that is the case then you should not be punished for a DDOS against the IP address.
(And yes, I've read the entire thread.)
I know that but what i mean is the DDOS allegedly lasted over 20minutes and yet my domain was only linked to the IP for the last 5minutes.
Exactly.
my point exactly and im no techie...
If no service was on it publicly and the i wasn't announced associated with the service, it surely is an attack (if there was any) on the ip than on the webservice.
If only you guys could work it out amicably, this would have been over in minutes.
@Iniz ... Is it possible that you may give the op another chance. probably with another unanounced ip
@fma965 ... if he does give you another chance. please be easy on the transfers. Do all what you want but just take it easy
EDITED OUT
IF the domain had no history of ddos at its previous provider (prior to Iniz) AND IF the domain isn't experiencing ddos at its current provider (RamNode) THEN it would be extremely unlikely to attact ddos during its short lifespan at Iniz.
The history of the Iniz IP address seems more likely to blame.
Yes i agree, My domain did have history of DDOS around a year ago but that was resolved. Not had one since and not having one now.
Your right, YOU can configure apache/Nginx/Whatever modules on YOUR vps to show real IP's in YOUR logs. Why have you stated this over and over? It's an unmanaged service, you are expected to configure it yourself.
What the fuck? You do know that the TCP connections that CloudFlare opens to your server are from CloudFlare IPs and the only way to get the visitor's IPs is to read the headers sent through CloudFlare? Only webservers can do that, not traffic dumping tools. That's why tools like iptables and other firewalls are useless behind CloudFlare, as they would only see tcp traffic from CloudFlare IPs.
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And you saw the logs, they are full of CloudFlare IPs that actually caused 150k pps.
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And regarding being attacked for 20mins but only having the domain linked for 5mins: Have you ever heard of TTL?
@INIZ, now that the client is gone, why not spin up a VM with that IP and see what happens?
Have you read the logs? The "attacking" IPs were CloudFlare IPs. He clearly received a HTTP flood through CloudFlare, the domain was targeted and not the IP.
yeah but i would also assume stat monitoring software would be able to do this. i'm not about for me to access i am on about for the owners of the service to access e,g, INIZ
clearly i was wrong sorry we can't all be perfect like @cncking200 and @tr1cky. My bad.
That was standard traffic to a buggy PHP script as previously mentioned in this thread.
So my slightly buggy PHP script which doesn't cache the images it generates + me WGET'ing files is what caused this, i still insist it wasn't a DDOS but you insist otherwise.
@fma965, Hey now, its 2000, not 200,
On the other hand, forgive me for informing you about something you seemed to not know about earlier. I know you will leave with some knowledge from this thread, if any of us are getting through.
Honestly, the last provider I signed up for, I told them flat out that I was going to run a 80GB btsync to the new VPS. They advised limiting incoming to prevent issues, and that was that. A little communication with your provider would go a long way for the "Unique" experience that you went through.
Edit: All this assuming that it wasn't a DDoS as you've maintained in this thread.