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  • ricardoricardo Member
    edited May 2014

    Has anyone asked Yomura on their thoughts regarding the US moving in a more socialist direction? ? I demand to know their position!

  • @seaeagle said:
    i'm not sure how you got that from my comments

    You said, "The less a govt does the better off the country will be.". A country is comprised of citizens The government did less in the 1800s and early 1900s. So no, that's not really an accurate blanket statement.

    There are limits to what government should do - absolutely, but it's hard to sanely argue that if they did as little as possible, that would be the best for the majority of the citizens

  • @Microlinux

    Of course - nothing is black and white - having a small govt that handles core responsibilities would be better in my opinion. unfortunately govt (both elected and directly employed) tend towards their own job security (getting re-elected or getting promoted and growing the size of their team/responsibility) so they promise "to do more" - which costs you more.
    if govt managed policing and legal system, defense, large infrastructure and education in most cases you are capable of making better spending decisions on the other things you do in your life.
    Is it going to be easy reversing this trend? is it even possible?

    The government did less in the 1800s and early 1900s

    When did America rise to its position of economic powerhouse?
    When did America get into such debt that it is no longer repayable without currency manipulation?
    When did America begin to experience such levels of unemployment and welfare dependency?
    In the 1800s and early 1900s was America on the rise?
    In the late 1900s and the early 2000's would you say that America is still on the rise?
    Can America continue to enjoy its current standard of living without continuing to borrow or print more money?
    Can the American federal govt continue to spend 30% more money than it brings in?
    And what about all those states and cities who are also financing spending by borrowing?

  • CltcamCltcam Member

    @0xdragon said:
    I just renewed my HP BL460C Dual X5150, 16GB, 500GB Dedicated Server. Honestly, for the amount they're charging, I'm not asking questions.

    OVH offers great deals, and we know plenty about them.

  • PwnerPwner Member

    seaeagle said: When did America rise to its position of economic powerhouse?

    2 words.

    Ronald. Reagan.

    Best President the United States has ever had, and at the rate we're going, ever will.

  • @Cltcam said:

    Uh huh... Anyone else you can think of selling a similarly spec'd machine with this price? ($200/yr)

  • FlorisFloris Member
    edited May 2014

    @hostnoob said:
    Illuminati


    It's true...

  • kyakykyaky Member
    edited May 2014

    @Floris said:

    you need a brand called masonicVPS

  • JupiterJupiter Member
    edited May 2014

    Seems that some competitors started to fear the DelimiterVPS phenomenon and try character assassination and disinformation techniques as a last resort.

    Unless you are an investor or major customer i don't really see the point of this discussion. I have 4 servers with them and they all work just fine. They provide descent network, provisioning system, IPKVM, good support for a truly amazing value. If you fear anything backup your data and replicate offsite.

    Most of companies here are virtual with no assets, no employees, no intellectual property, some not even incorporated with NO TAX ID, NOTHING. You rent a server or a rack of servers, install one billing system and few open source virtualization platforms, cut and paste a web site template and any smart 16yo can be in business in 2-3 days.

    Even if Mark and Steven are the only employees of the company is good enough for me.

    Because the servers i have are REAL and THEY WORK.

  • MicrolinuxMicrolinux Member
    edited May 2014

    @seaeagle said:
    Of course - nothing is black and white - having a small govt that handles core responsibilities would be better in my opinion. unfortunately govt (both elected and directly employed) tend towards their own job security (getting re-elected or getting promoted and growing the size of their team/responsibility) so they promise "to do more" - which costs you more.
    if govt managed policing and legal system, defense, large infrastructure and education in most cases you are capable of making better spending decisions on the other things you do in your life.
    Is it going to be easy reversing this trend? is it even possible?

    I agree with pretty much everything you said, I was only refuting the idea of the smaller the government, the better of people are - but you have now clarified your point of view on that. Some people see no limits on that statement, which is what I disagree with.

  • CoreyCorey Member
    edited May 2014

    Jupiter said: Seems that some competitors started to fear the DelimiterVPS phenomenon and try character assassination and disinformation techniques as a last resort.

    Unless you are an investor or major customer i don't really see the point of this discussion. I have 4 servers with them and they all work just fine. They provide descent network, provisioning system, IPKVM, good support for a truly amazing value. If you fear anything backup your data and replicate offsite.

    Most of companies here are virtual with no assets, no employees, no intellectual property, some not even incorporated with NO TAX ID, NOTHING. You rent a server or a rack of servers, install one billing system and few open source virtualization platforms, cut and paste a web site template and any smart 16yo can be in business in 2-3 days.

    Even if Mark and Steven are the only employees of the company is good enough for me.

    Because the servers i have are REAL and THEY WORK.

    I guess you didn't read where they took over several companies before and kept clients money and shut the business down with no communication about it at some random point in time? The shutdown was unexpected by the customers.

    Thanked by 3Spirit alexvolk srvrpro
  • CltcamCltcam Member

    @Corey said:
    I guess you didn't read where they took over several companies before and kept clients money and shut the business down with no communication about it at some random point in time? The shutdown was unexpected by the customers.

    Exactly.

  • PwnerPwner Member

    @Cltcam said:
    Exactly.

    And as previously stated, if you don't like their services, you don't have to use them. There are plenty of alternatives in the LEB world. Delimiter isn't the only one. It's your money, you can decide how to spend it on what you like, whether it's VPS services or hookers. It's all up to you.

  • @Pwner said:

    And as previously stated, if you don't like their services, you don't have to use them. There are plenty of alternatives in the LEB world. Delimiter isn't the only one. It's your money, you can decide how to spend it on what you like, whether it's VPS services or hookers. It's all up to you.

    It's just warning for others so people will know what yomura did in a past.

    Thanked by 1srvrpro
  • CltcamCltcam Member

    @alexvolk said:
    Pwner said:
    It's just warning for others so people will know what yomura did in a past.

    Yup.

  • srvrprosrvrpro Member

    Business plan for ya'll:

    -Buy a domain is some random country.

    -Don't bother registering a company or maybe you could doesn't really matter. I'd suggest using a random name and address. (You could find virtual offices too).

    -Pretend to be a very big company, a big staff, pretend to own data centers(even though you don't, just don't give people the address of your datacenters, you could hide it by maybe taking down your website for a few weeks?).

    -Whenever someone asks, tell them that you're in stealth mode(that's because we don't have an office right now)

    -Acquire(use big sounding words) some $50 companies.

    -Take their customer's money and runaway.

    -Come back after an year like nothing happened.

    -Invest that money in servers(cheap ones)

    -Sell at $5 profits per month for like an year, don't bother wasting money in professional support, just do it yourself under different names whenever you feel like.

    -Ok so now we're good to go. Now that you've sold alot of servers. Some customers, not smart enough already trapped. Make a "Too good to be true offer".

    -Promote it as much as possible.

    -Runaway with the money.

    Disclaimer: This business plan does not resemble any actual company, if it does, its purely a co-incidence :)

  • CoreyCorey Member
    edited May 2014

    Yomura Holdings from Atlanta, United States. For more information, please look up as7363.
    Source - http://www.de-cix.net/news-events/latest-news/news/article/we-warmly-welcome-three-new-customers-at-de-cix-new-york/

    IPs Originated (v4): 11,008 - yea they own a datacenter... /sarcasm

  • InfinityInfinity Member, Host Rep

    @Corey said:
    Yomura Holdings from Atlanta, United States. For more information, please look up as7363.
    Source - http://www.de-cix.net/news-events/latest-news/news/article/we-warmly-welcome-three-new-customers-at-de-cix-new-york/

    IPs Originated (v4): 11,008 - yea they own a datacenter... /sarcasm

    Since when was number of IP's a measure for that? They may be a carrier neutral data center with lots of clients who bring their own IP's. Or it may be that they don't hand IP's out like candy.

  • qpsqps Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2014
  • emreemre Member, LIR

    I remembered at last..

    check this: this was from year 2008: Georgia vs Russia stuff

    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/coordinated-russia-vs-georgia-cyber-attack-in-progress/1670

    ok now the important part from that 2008 article:

    The original servers located in the country of Georgia were "flooded and blocked by Russians" over the weekend, Nino Doijashvili, chief executive of Atlanta-based hosting company Tulip Systems Inc., said Monday.

    The Georgian-born Doijashvili happened to be on vacation in Georgia when fighting broke out on Friday. She cold-called the government to offer her help and transferred president.gov.ge and rustavi2.com, the Web site of a prominent Georgian TV station, to her company's servers Saturday."

    Yes who is this Tulip Systems Inc: Check this:

    http://bgp.he.net/net/208.93.118.0/23

    Yes this Is Yomura So Yomura is Nino Doijashvili

    who is Nino Doijasvili

    http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Nino-Doijashvili/132483812

    CEO of TULIP SYSTEMS, Inc. and Director of Technical Services for HOMECOM COMMUNICATION, INC. Nino has a Ph.D. in Computer Science from Moscow University.
    Nino has been Associate Professor and Vice Director of the Computer Learning Center at the Georgian Technical University, Tbilisi, and a Visiting Professor at Emory University.
    Nino has been involved in Website development since 1995 including Personal Home Page Systems, E-Commerce, and Intelligent Software. Nino currently directs development operations for TULIP SYSTEMS and TULIX SYSTEMS in Atlanta, GA. and manages the company's subsidiary office in Tbilisi, GE. Nino was also instrumental in establishing the Internet Based Learning Center for the Country of Georgia.

    So basically Nino is ex. KGB double agent of CIA.

    So yomura = CIA

    end of story.

  • VirtovoVirtovo Member

    @emre said:
    I remembered at last..

    check this: this was from year 2008: Georgia vs Russia stuff

    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/coordinated-russia-vs-georgia-cyber-attack-in-progress/1670

    ok now the important part from that 2008 article:

    The original servers located in the country of Georgia were "flooded and blocked by Russians" over the weekend, Nino Doijashvili, chief executive of Atlanta-based hosting company Tulip Systems Inc., said Monday.

    The Georgian-born Doijashvili happened to be on vacation in Georgia when fighting broke out on Friday. She cold-called the government to offer her help and transferred president.gov.ge and rustavi2.com, the Web site of a prominent Georgian TV station, to her company's servers Saturday."

    Yes who is this Tulip Systems Inc: Check this:

    http://bgp.he.net/net/208.93.118.0/23

    Yes this Is Yomura So Yomura is Nino Doijashvili

    who is Nino Doijasvili

    http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Nino-Doijashvili/132483812

    CEO of TULIP SYSTEMS, Inc. and Director of Technical Services for HOMECOM COMMUNICATION, INC. Nino has a Ph.D. in Computer Science from Moscow University.
    Nino has been Associate Professor and Vice Director of the Computer Learning Center at the Georgian Technical University, Tbilisi, and a Visiting Professor at Emory University.
    Nino has been involved in Website development since 1995 including Personal Home Page Systems, E-Commerce, and Intelligent Software. Nino currently directs development operations for TULIP SYSTEMS and TULIX SYSTEMS in Atlanta, GA. and manages the company's subsidiary office in Tbilisi, GE. Nino was also instrumental in establishing the Internet Based Learning Center for the Country of Georgia.

    So basically Nino is ex. KGB double agent of CIA.

    So yomura = CIA

    end of story.

    And just when I thought this thread needed to be put to bed.

    Thanked by 1netomx
  • @MarkTurner has since confessed to being an FBI agent.

    Thanked by 2netomx TriDoxiuM
  • RyanDRyanD Member

    Just to provide some clarity.

    I personally know the owners of Tulix/Tulip (George and Nino) as referenced above.
    They are not Russian, they are Georgian (the country, not the state).

    Tulip Systems and Tulix Systems are the same company. They are on the 17th floor of 55 Marietta, they occupy an office suite and 2 DC suites on the floor.

    There are 2 other suites on the floor. One is presently occupied by Yomura, the other is vacant and was previously occupied by Skiplink/Southeastweb which is now defunct (evicted)

    Yomura occupies their entire own suite, this suite was previously occupied by GNAX prior to their building of the AtlantaNAP and migration out of the 55 Marietta building.

    Yomura 'owns' their datacenter in the same sense that Equinix, Softlayer, etc "own" their datacenters.

    Thanked by 1netomx
  • @RyanD said:
    I personally know the owners of Tulix/Tulip (George and Nino)

    Why they scammed so much people then ?

  • CoreyCorey Member
    edited May 2014

    @Infinity said:
    Since when was number of IP's a measure for that? They may be a carrier neutral data center with lots of clients who bring their own IP's. Or it may be that they don't hand IP's out like candy.

    Really? I've seen a few of their customers here that are using Yomura to start out selling VPS servers as their first provider. These people don't have their own ips when they just started their business 3 months ago. Yomura owns delimiter. From my understanding delimiter is actually pretty big. So let's say that Delimiter has 2000 vps customers and only uses 2000 ip addresses for them, and has 1000 atom customers and uses only 1000 ip addresses for this.. 11000-3000 = 8000. Now lets say that all of the people running vps companies that rent from Yomura are doing terrible, don't have many ips, and only have 3000 ip addresses combined..... 8000-3000 = 5000. Yomura supposedly owns so many companies and it would make sense that they use Yomura ip space right? So how can you own your own datacenter and only rent 5000 ip addresses to your customers? Here is CoreXchange's AS number...

    http://bgp.he.net/AS13354

    CoreXchange isn't even 'huge' like some DC's around.... and they don't hand out ip addresses like candy I can say from experience. They have over 100k ips.

    I didn't realize renting a suite counted as owning a datacenter.

    Another point still stands... how can you be that big and run off with peoples money like on their previous acquisitions.

    http://www.tulsys.com/

  • CoreyCorey Member

    @RyanD said:
    Just to provide some clarity.

    I personally know the owners of Tulix/Tulip (George and Nino) as referenced above.
    They are not Russian, they are Georgian (the country, not the state).

    Tulip Systems and Tulix Systems are the same company. They are on the 17th floor of 55 Marietta, they occupy an office suite and 2 DC suites on the floor.

    There are 2 other suites on the floor. One is presently occupied by Yomura, the other is vacant and was previously occupied by Skiplink/Southeastweb which is now defunct (evicted)

    Yomura occupies their entire own suite, this suite was previously occupied by GNAX prior to their building of the AtlantaNAP and migration out of the 55 Marietta building.

    Yomura 'owns' their datacenter in the same sense that Equinix, Softlayer, etc "own" their datacenters.

    What do you mean? I pass by the Softlayer building in Dallas all the time. It's definitely their own building.

  • RyanDRyanD Member

    Maybe I just need to make it more clear.

    Tulix, Tulip, or any of their sub brands, have absolutely nothing to do with Yomura.

    Yomura purchases IP Transit from Tulix, as they are located across the hall from them in 55 Marietta. When we had the 21st floor of 55 Marietta, Yomura approached us to purchase IP transit from us.

  • RyanDRyanD Member

    @Corey said:
    What do you mean? I pass by the Softlayer building in Dallas all the time. It's definitely their own building.

    Softlayer does not own the building. Our executive team went out and toured the building when they were building it out, it was a DRT property, they lease the space. Just the same as Yomura leases a suite in 55 Maretta, we lease full floors at 34 Peachtree, equinix leases a large suite at 180 Peachtree.

  • CoreyCorey Member

    RyanD said: Tulix, Tulip, or any of their sub brands, have absolutely nothing to do with Yomura.

    How do you know?

  • RyanDRyanD Member

    @Corey said:

    Because I know the ownership of Tulix. Our CFO previously worked for Tulix. We were both tenants in 55 Marietta for 5+ years, we know them very well. Yomura is nothing more than an IP transit customer.

    Any suggestion that Tulix is a 'scam' is completely unfounded.

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