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  • lebidulelebidule Member
    edited December 2021

    On KS-LE, I got Debian 11 :

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    Question for fellow 16TB club members:

    1. RAID5, like a to give you a fighting chance
    2. RAID0, like a real man, no protection

    Thoughts?

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  • FalzoFalzo Member

    @Nekki said:
    Question for fellow 16TB club members:

    1. RAID5, like a to give you a fighting chance
    2. RAID0, like a real man, no protection

    Thoughts?

    JBOD/LVM group might be a better choice over raid-0 if you want the full space,s o that you won't lose all data. sacrifice potential speed gain though.

    raid-5 only might help if you do the right thing in case one disk fails (IMHO simply replacing and rebuilding is not it ;-))

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  • ErisaErisa Member

    @Falzo said: raid-5 only might help if you do the right thing in case one disk fails (IMHO simply replacing and rebuilding is not it ;-))

    What would the right thing be? Evacuating any necessary data at once instead of risking a rebuild?

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  • OsirisBlackOsirisBlack Member

    Don't be a pussy. Raid 0

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  • FalzoFalzo Member

    @Erisa said:

    @Falzo said: raid-5 only might help if you do the right thing in case one disk fails (IMHO simply replacing and rebuilding is not it ;-))

    What would the right thing be? Evacuating any necessary data at once instead of risking a rebuild?

    yeah, at least that's what I would do. ideally even prioritize your data on copying out.

    the thing with the rebuild on those large disks is, that the risk is quite high to come across an unrecoverable read error, which will then push your raid over the final edge and render it useless anyway. so you would not have gained anything from running raid-5 after all.

    instead I'd first try and recover as much data as possible by simply transferring it out (yes that means, you'll need storage for that, at least temporary) and only then start rebuilding the raid.

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  • Master_BoMaster_Bo Member

    Ordered SYS-1-SSD-32, it's doing just fine.

    Also, it surely beats the Kimsufi BF deal with Intel I5-2400 (two years old), so I will switch my development activity to this one. Thanks for the links.

  • bshbsh Member

    @Nekki said:
    Question for fellow 16TB club members:

    1. RAID5, like a to give you a fighting chance
    2. RAID0, like a real man, no protection

    Thoughts?

    IMO, I'd go with RAID-10 (total 8TB in use) SYS-2-SAT-32(64) because these disks are quite new . In SYS-1, I'd go with (3-way+1-spare) or (4-way) RAID-1 because of old-school disks.

  • fluffernutterfluffernutter Member
    edited December 2021

    @plumberg said:
    Sys-2-sat-32 france in stock...
    Go go

    Go
    Go

    Thank you, finally managed to order a few after trying for a while. Guess I can cancel my SAT-1! All of them have the 16tb, so ended up pretty lucky there. Also got the 1541, so I'm feeling like I won the lottery!

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  • david_Wdavid_W Member

    Lost my hope on SYS-2-SAT-32 in BHS and ordered SYS-1-SAT-32 instead.

    • Slightly better CPU as advertised (D-1521 vs D-1520)
    • Much better network as advertised (1Gbps vs. 250Mbps)
    • Identical CPU/network/Disk as my perfectly aged SYS-BF-1 pretty much idling since 2019
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
#              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
#                     v2021-12-03                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

Fri Dec  3 21:19:53 EST 2021

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU D-1521 @ 2.40GHz
CPU cores  : 8 @ 949.881 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 31.2 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       :

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 0.00 KB/s        (0) | 0.00 KB/s        (0)
Write      | 0.00 KB/s        (0) | 0.00 KB/s        (0)
Total      | 0.00 KB/s        (0) | 0.00 KB/s        (0)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 0.00 KB/s        (0) | 0.00 KB/s        (0)
Write      | 0.00 KB/s        (0) | 0.00 KB/s        (0)
Total      | 0.00 KB/s        (0) | 0.00 KB/s        (0)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                |                           |                 |
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 896 Mbits/sec   | 782 Mbits/sec
Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | 890 Mbits/sec   | 782 Mbits/sec
WorldStream     | The Netherlands (10G)     | busy            | busy
WebHorizon      | Singapore (1G)            | busy            | 103 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 940 Mbits/sec   | 941 Mbits/sec
Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 897 Mbits/sec   | 856 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 902 Mbits/sec   | 872 Mbits/sec
Iveloz Telecom  | Sao Paulo, BR (2G)        | 832 Mbits/sec   | 745 Mbits/sec

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                |                           |                 |
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 883 Mbits/sec   | 824 Mbits/sec
Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | 878 Mbits/sec   | 816 Mbits/sec
WorldStream     | The Netherlands (10G)     | 873 Mbits/sec   | busy
WebHorizon      | Singapore (1G)            | 134 Mbits/sec   | 152 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 926 Mbits/sec   | 929 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 889 Mbits/sec   | 891 Mbits/sec

Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 737
Multi Core      | 3075
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  • bshbsh Member

    @david_W : Could you post your infos about disks?

  • david_Wdavid_W Member

    @bsh said:
    @david_W : Could you post your infos about disks?

    Not qualify for the 16TB club..

    • 4x2TB
    • Vintage enterprise HGST Ultrastar 7K4000
    • 55k average power on hours
    • 0 Reallocated_Sector_Ct on all of them
    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Hitachi/HGST Ultrastar 7K4000
Device Model:     HGST HUS724020ALA640
Serial Number:    *****
LU WWN Device Id: *****
Firmware Version: MF6OABY0
User Capacity:    2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate:    7200 rpm
Form Factor:      3.5 inches
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Fri Dec  3 21:18:00 2021 EST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED


SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   100   016    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   136   136   054    Pre-fail  Offline      -       83
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   152   152   024    Pre-fail  Always       -       420 (Average 397)
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       95
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   005    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   067    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   142   142   020    Pre-fail  Offline      -       25
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   093   093   000    Old_age   Always       -       55348
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       95
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       1314
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0012   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       1314
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   193   193   000    Old_age   Always       -       31 (Min/Max 8/58)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0008   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
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  • bshbsh Member

    Old-school disks, then. SYS-1-* range is well tolerant to purchase, but old-school disk is a cons.

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @TheBrokenBee Updates plz

  • TheBrokenBeeTheBrokenBee Member

    @Nekki said:
    @TheBrokenBee Updates plz

    No delivery yet. I’m going to fucking lose my shit if I don’t get that 16TB.

  • hanruhanru Member

    @david_W said:
    Lost my hope on SYS-2-SAT-32 in BHS and ordered SYS-1-SAT-32 instead.

    • Slightly better CPU as advertised (D-1521 vs D-1520)
    • Much better network as advertised (1Gbps vs. 250Mbps)
    • Identical CPU/network/Disk as my perfectly aged SYS-BF-1 pretty much idling since 2019

    Does SYS-1-SAT-32 in BHS have free IPMI?

  • ZeniicZeniic Member

    @hanru said:

    @david_W said:
    Lost my hope on SYS-2-SAT-32 in BHS and ordered SYS-1-SAT-32 instead.

    • Slightly better CPU as advertised (D-1521 vs D-1520)
    • Much better network as advertised (1Gbps vs. 250Mbps)
    • Identical CPU/network/Disk as my perfectly aged SYS-BF-1 pretty much idling since 2019

    Does SYS-1-SAT-32 in BHS have free IPMI?

    I believe all of these do :)

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  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member

    Still waiting for the sys2

  • fluffernutterfluffernutter Member

    @TheBrokenBee said:
    No delivery yet. I’m going to fucking lose my shit if I don’t get that 16TB.

    I had to wait for a few days and was worried too, but I ended up getting 1541 and 16TB, with free IPMI! Be patient, good things will come to you :smiley:

  • allthemtingsallthemtings Member

    @LiliLabs said:

    @TheBrokenBee said:
    No delivery yet. I’m going to fucking lose my shit if I don’t get that 16TB.

    I had to wait for a few days and was worried too, but I ended up getting 1541 and 16TB, with free IPMI! Be patient, good things will come to you :smiley:

    What location?

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  • fluffernutterfluffernutter Member

    @allthemtings said:
    What location?

    France, GRA to be exact :wink:

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  • david_Wdavid_W Member

    @hanru said:
    Does SYS-1-SAT-32 in BHS have free IPMI?

    Yes, I was actually using IPMI to debug some issues.

    Thanked by 1hanru
  • wuckwuck Member
    edited December 2021

    Their system is kinda weird, I pay for server its delivered fast, Im paying for 1 additional IP and it's been almost 24hours and they still need to verify payment :*

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran

    @TheBrokenBee said:

    @Nekki said:
    @TheBrokenBee Updates plz

    No delivery yet. I’m going to fucking lose my shit if I don’t get that 16TB.

    4 hours past... any updates? I got an update from their support on a non related issue pretty fast over past couple days and last one being midnight EST!

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @plumberg said:

    @TheBrokenBee said:

    @Nekki said:
    @TheBrokenBee Updates plz

    No delivery yet. I’m going to fucking lose my shit if I don’t get that 16TB.

    4 hours past... any updates? I got an update from their support on a non related issue pretty fast over past couple days and last one being midnight EST!

    I’m not sure you’re going to get administrative support over the weekend.

  • TheBrokenBeeTheBrokenBee Member

    Y> @Nekki said:

    @plumberg said:

    @TheBrokenBee said:

    @Nekki said:
    @TheBrokenBee Updates plz

    No delivery yet. I’m going to fucking lose my shit if I don’t get that 16TB.

    4 hours past... any updates? I got an update from their support on a non related issue pretty fast over past couple days and last one being midnight EST!

    I’m not sure you’re going to get administrative support over the weekend.

    No delivery today?

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @TheBrokenBee said:
    Y> @Nekki said:

    @plumberg said:

    @TheBrokenBee said:

    @Nekki said:
    @TheBrokenBee Updates plz

    No delivery yet. I’m going to fucking lose my shit if I don’t get that 16TB.

    4 hours past... any updates? I got an update from their support on a non related issue pretty fast over past couple days and last one being midnight EST!

    I’m not sure you’re going to get administrative support over the weekend.

    No delivery today?

    Depends on the hold up. If they’re racking more servers and you’re in the queue, maybe. If there’s admin to do, probably not.

  • TheBrokenBeeTheBrokenBee Member

    @Nekki said:

    @TheBrokenBee said:
    Y> @Nekki said:

    @plumberg said:

    @TheBrokenBee said:

    @Nekki said:
    @TheBrokenBee Updates plz

    No delivery yet. I’m going to fucking lose my shit if I don’t get that 16TB.

    4 hours past... any updates? I got an update from their support on a non related issue pretty fast over past couple days and last one being midnight EST!

    I’m not sure you’re going to get administrative support over the weekend.

    No delivery today?

    Depends on the hold up. If they’re racking more servers and you’re in the queue, maybe. If there’s admin to do, probably not.

    Fucking hate weekends.

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @TheBrokenBee said: Fucking hate weekends.

    If it's any consolation, I'm idling all of my BF dedis like a fucking champ right now, in your honour.

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  • plumbergplumberg Veteran

    @Nekki said:

    @TheBrokenBee said: Fucking hate weekends.

    If it's any consolation, I'm idling all of my BF dedis like a fucking champ right now, in your honour.

    Woooooo

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