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As expected, everyone is going down a 'fixed tier' route. None of them is going to risk being exposed to the situation where they are left carrying the cost for a non-payer of an unknown number of accounts at month-end. I suspect they will remove the flexible option when they get burnt twice.
The pricing is worse than I thought.
I originally thought it would be agregate licensing.
So like $45+$0.20 per account over 100 accounts across as many servers as you'd like but it's basically $45 per server for under 100 accounts.
That's bat shit crazy.
Took a look over at Plesk pricing and noticed they are offering a discount on their Web Host Edition $20.63/mo FIRST 3 MONTHS 50% OFF. I can’t work out if they are trying to kill off cPanel and combine assets/brand into Plesk or keep both brands going and eventually sell one off.
I recon they will sell off 1 of them or both, that's what they seem to do looking at their history.... They did a similar thing with heartinternet - put account limits in and it seems to have stuck.
maybe we need a community bank account to start saving to buy it back.... haha
cPanel has said they will give providers 1 month relief in the event someone loads up a server with a bunch of accounts and then does not pay the bill.
One month every time? I doubt it, their patience will run out with that.
I also doubt it. cPanel won't be able to control this at scale and someone may come with a "creative" way of abusing that relief.
Indeed. I think that was just cPanel throwing a bone due to the number of comments they got about abuse potential. The time will come sooner than later when they turn round and say no more relief, especially when providers start requesting it too often.
The only real way to manage it is fixed tiers.
Interestingly Vultr has announced its new pricing, tiered as expected but they are offering discounts on the standard cPanel pricing. Cloud at cPanel is $30, Vultr is $23, Standard Metal plan is $42 compared to $45.
Interesting that they can offer discounts where someone like BuycPanel cannot.
^ hmm: popcorn time.
Well vultr are bundling it with hardware, also they may have partner discounts.
BuycPanel will get the same partner discounts, they will have far more active licences than Vultr. There is no way Vultr is soaking the cost of the discount themselves. BuycPanel is just not passing anything on.
There are “partners” and “distributors” with BuycPanel being the latter. Distributor discounts are different than what a partner gets.
Could cPanel be tired of having BuycPanel buying cPanel licenses?
Ok, well let's take out apples and pears.
If BuycPanel as a 'distributor' is getting discounts, they are not passing them on. So the benefit of purchasing from them is lost. An example;
Premier Fixed 250 @ BuycPanel - $75
Metal licence + 150 users @ cPanel - $75
and so on...
I mean all people have been interested in is what they can save on licensing compared to going direct. Nothing.
Possible, not an unusual decision for a business. Stop giving discounts to a distributor channel, that way people have to go direct.
Licensepal will be $0.05 cheaper than BuycPanel.
Ref.: licensepal.com/products/cpanel-pricing-update.php
I'm thinking so.
BuyCpanel had some screenshots/snaps of where they wanted to be at cost when things first got announced and it's way higher.
Originally it looked like BuyCpanel was aiming to be a bit over what partner costs were.
This pricing tells me cPanel is forcing their hand.
Francisco
Yup, looks like distributors are getting much smaller discounts that they can't pass on and turn a profit.
different service costs involved. Buycpanel offers free cpanel installations too which costs the $$$ (wages) versus vultr self-service
Proposal:
we offer cPanel licenses at partner prices + 10%, for all those who move their services - VPS or Dedicated with cPanel license - to us.
They need to 1) reduce their pricing, 2) provide a free tier, and 3) have a more gradual scale.
All of them are only "PartnerNOC" so they have discounts only on own network/own Ip-s like Vultr and like us to.
"PartnerNOC: A cPanel customer who has entered into a PartnerNOC
Agreement with cPanel. A PartnerNOC Agreement is only available to
certain cPanel customers who, among other things, maintain their own
servers."
"cPanel Certified Partner: A PartnerNOC who has achieved cPanel
Certified Partner status by completing the requirements of the cPanel
Certified Partner Program"
"Distributor: A PartnerNOC who has entered into a Distributor
Amendment with cPanel. A Distributor Amendment gives the PartnerNOC
the ability to resell cPanel products on external servers"
https://cpanel.net/wp-content/themes/cPbase/assets/downloads/cP_Partner_Licensing_Guide.pdf
Buycpanel is doomed if they are unable to offer any discount!
I do believe this is CPanel's whole point. Go direct or GTFOH.
This answer from Peter Hand on quora perfectly explains current CPanel situation..
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https://www.quora.com/Why-are-casino-buffets-so-expensive-now-when-they-used-to-be-really-cheap/answer/Peter-Hand-4
So cpanel will also ask us for the number of websites hosted under our client's hosting reseller account too ?
They likely already know that.
Francisco
Not so much ask, your cPanel server will call home and tell them how many you have.
You are confusing 'accounts' ( cpanel logins ) with 'domains' - in Plesk licencing is per domain, in CPanel its per account.
I can see a lot of the cheapos switch from providing actual reseller accounts to 'fake' resellers vased in addon domains.