Velox media under new management

TandM · January 8

@VeloxMedia said:

Didn't you just show us your account is only $4/yr. I'd love to see you lose thousands trying to fight a $4 deal. Shall I delete and you try it?

Truly the behavior of a businessman with $12M to spend, tons of well known corporations left unnamed for some reason, with the true intentions of making a shabby low end hoster with a shit reputation into a flagship hosting company. You're not even trying at this point.

x0x0x · January 8

@DP said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@tfgp99 said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@ralf said:

@ralf said:

@plumberg said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@fuqet said:
I have a quick question. If someone issued a chargeback without informing Veloxmedia, would they still receive the service for free? How would the company find out about the chargeback if they don’t have access to the bank account used for the payment? Am I right?

We have the transactionID from the initial purchase and both stripe and PayPal have integrations for any vendor to check the status. They eventually mark it as disputed when we then can submit the client as fraud which can cause issues with your bank and stuff. Also we delete the account.

It just makes more sense to pop a ticket so we delete the account and make life easier for everyone.

So @VeloxMedia is intentionally marking customers as fraud without knowing the true reason why customer filed a dispute/ chargeback.

Good going.

@angstrom @DP
This is worth taking note of when he asks for his tag to be re-instated.

Also forgot to mention... Earlier in this thread multiple times, he urged customers / people he claims aren't his customers to request a chargeback if they were happy.

So if he's asking people to chargeback, and then reporting them as fraud when they do so, knowing that it might cause them issues elsewhere, he definitely doesn't deserve his tag back.

Once the full story unfolds... I doubt he'll ever sell anything again... Let's see who's gonna answer my SAR request.

Wanna take bets on how much we'll continue to sell and grow?

Ok, flagged. You should have received a warning after this behaviour.

Not a single warning at all. I'm betting we'll get our provider status back before anything.

Here, take this as a verbal warning.

Given your repeated threats and mocking these users (and customers) about deleting "all these low paying customers" and other similar statements, your "we'll get our provider status back before anything" will not go well while I'm still here, fortunately.

@jbiloh, FYI.

Irrespective of how all this is resolved, please make sure they do not sell here. They have made enough threats and LET does not need such a provider.

jsg · January 8

@Saragoldfarb said:

@jsg said:

And now I guess the horde of hobby lawyers will take over again ...

Then this may come as a surprise. He holds my company data. We have real lawyers on retainer.

OK, so finally someone who says they do have actual lawyers on retainer. But do you also have them actually working on this, i.e. preparing concrete legal action?
If yes, do not forget to publish the relevant documents here! (PII blacked out of course).

@alexanderras said:
I see the GDPR ignorance continues. @jsg are you getting a cut?

Nope, and also no relations beyond having a cheap-ish VPS with them (I'm happy with). In fact, quite the contrary. My offer to pay something on top still stands.

Saragoldfarb · January 8

@DP said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@tfgp99 said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@ralf said:

@ralf said:

@plumberg said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@fuqet said:
I have a quick question. If someone issued a chargeback without informing Veloxmedia, would they still receive the service for free? How would the company find out about the chargeback if they don’t have access to the bank account used for the payment? Am I right?

We have the transactionID from the initial purchase and both stripe and PayPal have integrations for any vendor to check the status. They eventually mark it as disputed when we then can submit the client as fraud which can cause issues with your bank and stuff. Also we delete the account.

It just makes more sense to pop a ticket so we delete the account and make life easier for everyone.

So @VeloxMedia is intentionally marking customers as fraud without knowing the true reason why customer filed a dispute/ chargeback.

Good going.

@angstrom @DP
This is worth taking note of when he asks for his tag to be re-instated.

Also forgot to mention... Earlier in this thread multiple times, he urged customers / people he claims aren't his customers to request a chargeback if they were happy.

So if he's asking people to chargeback, and then reporting them as fraud when they do so, knowing that it might cause them issues elsewhere, he definitely doesn't deserve his tag back.

Once the full story unfolds... I doubt he'll ever sell anything again... Let's see who's gonna answer my SAR request.

Wanna take bets on how much we'll continue to sell and grow?

Ok, flagged. You should have received a warning after this behaviour.

Not a single warning at all. I'm betting we'll get our provider status back before anything.

Here, take this as a verbal warning.

Given your repeated threats and mocking these users (and customers) about deleting "all these low paying customers" and other similar statements, your "we'll get our provider status back before anything" will not go well while I'm still here, fortunately.

@jbiloh, FYI.

Yeah, but please don't ban him till I'm done with my SAR request ans everything unfolds.

Saragoldfarb · January 8

@VeloxMedia said:

@DP said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@tfgp99 said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@ralf said:

@ralf said:

@plumberg said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@fuqet said:
I have a quick question. If someone issued a chargeback without informing Veloxmedia, would they still receive the service for free? How would the company find out about the chargeback if they don’t have access to the bank account used for the payment? Am I right?

We have the transactionID from the initial purchase and both stripe and PayPal have integrations for any vendor to check the status. They eventually mark it as disputed when we then can submit the client as fraud which can cause issues with your bank and stuff. Also we delete the account.

It just makes more sense to pop a ticket so we delete the account and make life easier for everyone.

So @VeloxMedia is intentionally marking customers as fraud without knowing the true reason why customer filed a dispute/ chargeback.

Good going.

@angstrom @DP
This is worth taking note of when he asks for his tag to be re-instated.

Also forgot to mention... Earlier in this thread multiple times, he urged customers / people he claims aren't his customers to request a chargeback if they were happy.

So if he's asking people to chargeback, and then reporting them as fraud when they do so, knowing that it might cause them issues elsewhere, he definitely doesn't deserve his tag back.

Once the full story unfolds... I doubt he'll ever sell anything again... Let's see who's gonna answer my SAR request.

Wanna take bets on how much we'll continue to sell and grow?

Ok, flagged. You should have received a warning after this behaviour.

Not a single warning at all. I'm betting we'll get our provider status back before anything.

Here, take this as a verbal warning.

Given your repeated threats and mocking these users (and customers) about deleting "all these low paying customers" and other similar statements, your "we'll get our provider status back before anything" will not go well while I'm still here, fortunately.

@jbiloh, FYI.

Why is our status still suspended and what's required for it to be unsuspended? You sent a request this am and we responded with whatever was requested. What more is required?

You could start by stopping issuing fraudulent invoices, stop lying and returning my Moolah.

Saragoldfarb · January 8

@VeloxMedia said:
So here's what I'm thinking. Since no one seems happy and our status is suspended here for no reason and people want their data deleted.

Why don't we suspend all our LET deal clients until we get this all figured out and everyone is happy and our status here isn't suspended? This seems to be fair. If anyone has issues they can just chargeback.

Try it. Be my guest.

Saragoldfarb · January 8

@jsg said:

@VeloxMedia said:
So here's what I'm thinking. Since no one seems happy and our status is suspended here for no reason and people want their data deleted.

Why don't we suspend all our LET deal clients until we get this all figured out and everyone is happy and our status here isn't suspended? This seems to be fair. If anyone has issues they can just chargeback.

Re myself no need, I already was and still am happy with my @VeloxMedia VPS as well as with your support.

Wtf? He just threatened to delete your service one post above!

Saragoldfarb · January 8

@Wise said:
I love how he has the transaction I’d to identify chargebacks. So he is in full control of all data, not so legally

Not legal at all I may add. Even under US law what he's doing is illegal.

But you know... He not in the US.

alexanderras · January 8

@jsg said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@jsg said:

And now I guess the horde of hobby lawyers will take over again ...

Then this may come as a surprise. He holds my company data. We have real lawyers on retainer.

OK, so finally someone who says they do have actual lawyers on retainer. But do you also have them actually working on this, i.e. preparing concrete legal action?
If yes, do not forget to publish the relevant documents here! (PII blacked out of course).

@alexanderras said:
I see the GDPR ignorance continues. @jsg are you getting a cut?

Nope, and also no relations beyond having a cheap-ish VPS with them (I'm happy with). In fact, quite the contrary. My offer to pay something on top still stands.

No relations - but undying love and support. I see

Saragoldfarb · January 8

@Wise said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@225thinker said:
Now he's boasting it's all part of a two company "eight figure" operation in order to win a different part of his argument. If true, his legal "council" [sic] better bone up on the subtleties of the doctrine of "piercing the corporate veil."

That's today's homework assignment for our LowEndLawyer class.

We may be Low End but we're not Low Class.

We operate tons of companies. And again zero liability for Lewis's agreements as we keep stati

Calling you out on this, tons of companies !!

Tons not sure... He's leaving a trail though...

Saragoldfarb · January 8

@emperor said:

@VeloxMedia said: We delete all LET customers

Sorry @Saragoldfarb since you are his only customer...

Don't leave me all alone with him!!

TandM · January 8

@Saragoldfarb said:

Wtf? He just threatened to delete your service one post above!

Honestly, having read that hostsolutions.ro thread out of curiosity a bit back, they're probably just a career troll getting into these arguments for the hell of it.

x0x0x · January 8

@Saragoldfarb said:

@Wise said:
I love how he has the transaction I’d to identify chargebacks. So he is in full control of all data, not so legally

Not legal at all I may add. Even under US law what he's doing is illegal.

But you know... He not in the US.

He is in the US, according to https://ico.org.uk/ESDWebPages/Entry/ZC072447.

MaxTakeba · January 8

@Saragoldfarb said:

@jsg said:

@VeloxMedia said:
So here's what I'm thinking. Since no one seems happy and our status is suspended here for no reason and people want their data deleted.

Why don't we suspend all our LET deal clients until we get this all figured out and everyone is happy and our status here isn't suspended? This seems to be fair. If anyone has issues they can just chargeback.

Re myself no need, I already was and still am happy with my @VeloxMedia VPS as well as with your support.

Wtf? He just threatened to delete your service one post above!

I didn't say ban the VeloxMedia account and close this thread for nothing...

jsg · January 8

@Saragoldfarb said:

@jsg said:

@VeloxMedia said:
So here's what I'm thinking. Since no one seems happy and our status is suspended here for no reason and people want their data deleted.

Why don't we suspend all our LET deal clients until we get this all figured out and everyone is happy and our status here isn't suspended? This seems to be fair. If anyone has issues they can just chargeback.

Re myself no need, I already was and still am happy with my @VeloxMedia VPS as well as with your support.

Wtf? He just threatened to delete your service one post above!

... to which I responded what you quoted.

Now, to be honest and frank, while I do not think that he'll delete my service, I would even understand if after the witch hunt here he decided to simply terminate all services to LET users.
After all, what basis would I have to ask him to please kindly differentiate between LET users who comment facts based, asked question or even reasonably criticized @VeloxMedia vs. those just running a private war against them?

@alexanderras said:

@jsg said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@jsg said:

And now I guess the horde of hobby lawyers will take over again ...

Then this may come as a surprise. He holds my company data. We have real lawyers on retainer.

OK, so finally someone who says they do have actual lawyers on retainer. But do you also have them actually working on this, i.e. preparing concrete legal action?
If yes, do not forget to publish the relevant documents here! (PII blacked out of course).

@alexanderras said:
I see the GDPR ignorance continues. @jsg are you getting a cut?

Nope, and also no relations beyond having a cheap-ish VPS with them (I'm happy with). In fact, quite the contrary. My offer to pay something on top still stands.

No relations - but undying love and support. I see

No again. You see, what you call "support" in my eyes simply is not joining a witch hunt. And love? How on earth could I love a person I hardly know, not even had a phone conversation?
I do appreciate though that (a) he saved our VPS, and (b) did provide support even during Christmas.

Saragoldfarb · January 8

@tfgp99 said:
Also, there is one thing that im wondering from the beginning, if VeloxMedia have been bought by BentHost, actually where is BentHost in this entire story? VeloxMedia should be BentHost right now? No? Am i wrong?

No and yes. There's a scheme at play... Got an in but cannot disclose without having it verified.

VeloxMedia · January 8

@TandM said:

@VeloxMedia said:

Didn't you just show us your account is only $4/yr. I'd love to see you lose thousands trying to fight a $4 deal. Shall I delete and you try it?

Truly the behavior of a businessman with $12M to spend, tons of well known corporations left unnamed for some reason, with the true intentions of making a shabby low end hoster with a shit reputation into a flagship hosting company. You're not even trying at this point.

@Saragoldfarb said:

@VeloxMedia said:
So here's what I'm thinking. Since no one seems happy and our status is suspended here for no reason and people want their data deleted.

Why don't we suspend all our LET deal clients until we get this all figured out and everyone is happy and our status here isn't suspended? This seems to be fair. If anyone has issues they can just chargeback.

Try it. Be my guest.

Done

Saragoldfarb · January 8

@ralf said:

@tfgp99 said:
Also, there is one thing that im wondering from the beginning, if VeloxMedia have been bought by BentHost, actually where is BentHost in this entire story? VeloxMedia should be BentHost right now? No? Am i wrong?

Yeah, Eric had personal access to the data on the 23rd as he was talking about it, and Lewis said it was sold to Benthost. And also that they would take care of us (hahaha).

I still find the naming of Benthost suspicious. There's basically no evidence for them existing in the VPS space when looking at official company records, and the archive website looked totally different until a couple of days before they acquired Veloxmedia. I wouldn't be surprised if this was all part of some larger scam.

Don't forget about shield management.... Follow the trail...

tfgp99 · January 8

@jsg said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@jsg said:

@VeloxMedia said:
So here's what I'm thinking. Since no one seems happy and our status is suspended here for no reason and people want their data deleted.

Why don't we suspend all our LET deal clients until we get this all figured out and everyone is happy and our status here isn't suspended? This seems to be fair. If anyone has issues they can just chargeback.

Re myself no need, I already was and still am happy with my @VeloxMedia VPS as well as with your support.

Wtf? He just threatened to delete your service one post above!

... to which I responded what you quoted.

Now, to be honest and frank, while I do not think that he'll delete my service, I would even understand if after the witch hunt here he decided to simply terminate all services to LET users.
After all, what basis would I have to ask him to please kindly differentiate between LET users who comment 'facts* based, asked question or even reasonably criticized @VeloxMedia vs. those just running a private war against them?

The way that he threat all the customers & users, you want to keep defending him? You can realize you are one as well. I've told you an example that you couldn't even reply. Since I can assume you wouldn't like being in that position.

alexanderras · January 8

@jsg said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@jsg said:

@VeloxMedia said:
So here's what I'm thinking. Since no one seems happy and our status is suspended here for no reason and people want their data deleted.

Why don't we suspend all our LET deal clients until we get this all figured out and everyone is happy and our status here isn't suspended? This seems to be fair. If anyone has issues they can just chargeback.

Re myself no need, I already was and still am happy with my @VeloxMedia VPS as well as with your support.

Wtf? He just threatened to delete your service one post above!

... to which I responded what you quoted.

Now, to be honest and frank, while I do not think that he'll delete my service, I would even understand if after the witch hunt here he decided to simply terminate all services to LET users.
After all, what basis would I have to ask him to please kindly differentiate between LET users who comment 'facts* based, asked question or even reasonably criticized @VeloxMedia vs. those just running a private war against them?

Great mother superior. I see you have a monopoly on facts now too.

zed · January 8

I think you were all nuts for dealing with the original Veloxmedia frankly, so while I want to say something like .. who would give this clown money after watching this shitshow, I guess I know better.

MaxTakeba · January 8

@tfgp99 said:

@jsg said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@jsg said:

@VeloxMedia said:
So here's what I'm thinking. Since no one seems happy and our status is suspended here for no reason and people want their data deleted.

Why don't we suspend all our LET deal clients until we get this all figured out and everyone is happy and our status here isn't suspended? This seems to be fair. If anyone has issues they can just chargeback.

Re myself no need, I already was and still am happy with my @VeloxMedia VPS as well as with your support.

Wtf? He just threatened to delete your service one post above!

... to which I responded what you quoted.

Now, to be honest and frank, while I do not think that he'll delete my service, I would even understand if after the witch hunt here he decided to simply terminate all services to LET users.
After all, what basis would I have to ask him to please kindly differentiate between LET users who comment 'facts* based, asked question or even reasonably criticized @VeloxMedia vs. those just running a private war against them?

The way that he threat all the customers & users, you want to keep defending him? You can realize you are one as well. I've told you an example that you couldn't even reply. Since I can assume you wouldn't like being in that position.

Jsg does not give a fuck what anyone else thinks.
They have made their bed and will sleep on it. I believe they did it with Calin too. Literally a propaganda machine for free.

VeloxMedia · January 8

Good luck with everything guys! Make sure to backup all your data asap

Saragoldfarb · January 8

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@jsg said:

And now I guess the horde of hobby lawyers will take over again ...

Then this may come as a surprise. He holds my company data. We have real lawyers on retainer.

Didn't you just show us your account is only $4/yr. I'd love to see you lose thousands trying to fight a $4 deal. Shall I delete and you try it?

You could.

You obviously not from the us cos then you'd know coming for you wouldn't cost me a a single dime.

@angstrom @DP

Personal thread! Just so you know who we dealing with.

Saragoldfarb · January 8

@tfgp99 said:

@VeloxMedia said: Shall I delete and you try it?

Always remember if you have any consequences doing that. Last advice.

He can't because that would be the end of it.

Saragoldfarb · January 8

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:
@VeloxMedia said:

@tfgp99 said:

@VeloxMedia said: $4 client. Are you seriously causing all this drama over $4?

Money is still money, i've seen judgments just for 1 measly cent.

@VeloxMedia said: You keep giving more reason why we should just delete all these low paying customers now and not deal with this

For sure, not dealing with the reality of your business. Even if you delete them all, for sure you'll have the double or triple of complaints and for sure an active court process.

No because it's not our responsibility to maintain Lewis's customers. If you want I can show you and suspend or delete your account. Then you can show me how it's an issue for me

I am YOUR customer. You stated so yourself.

No you tried to be but we cancelled your order, remember.

Still very active sir, you also still holding my money.

tfgp99 · January 8

@VeloxMedia said:
Good luck with everything guys! Make sure to backup all your data asap

Email?

ralf · January 8

@jsg said:
Now, to be honest and frank, while I do not think that he'll delete my service, I would even understand if after the witch hunt here he decided to simply terminate all services to LET users.
After all, what basis would I have to ask him to please kindly differentiate between LET users who comment 'facts* based, asked question or even reasonably criticized @VeloxMedia vs. those just running a private war against them?

Asking a provider to respect the law is both reasonable, and telling them what the law is is factual. You can call it a witch hunt if you like, but all we're asking for is for him to comply with the law.

Saragoldfarb · January 8

Fuck he did it!!!! He suspended me @angstrom @DP

Saragoldfarb · January 8

@jsg said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@jsg said:

And now I guess the horde of hobby lawyers will take over again ...

Then this may come as a surprise. He holds my company data. We have real lawyers on retainer.

OK, so finally someone who says they do have actual lawyers on retainer. But do you also have them actually working on this, i.e. preparing concrete legal action?
If yes, do not forget to publish the relevant documents here! (PII blacked out of course).

@alexanderras said:
I see the GDPR ignorance continues. @jsg are you getting a cut?

Nope, and also no relations beyond having a cheap-ish VPS with them (I'm happy with). In fact, quite the contrary. My offer to pay something on top still stands.

@jsg

He threatened me and just suspended me and is still holding MY MONEY

Which I payed to HIM!

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