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Oracle Cloud Free Tier

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  • @coolice said:
    Just use arm cores I think it benchmark around 800 at yabs gekbench6 but do not have the results at hand as I did it some time ago and do not

    And do not get to greedy with resources that service has minimal usage requirements mentioned in the free tier FAQ

    Can people reliably get ARM cores now? Last year it was nearly impossible (didn't use scripts because I was afraid of account ban)
    Speaking of minimal usage, it hasn't been a problem with E2.1.Micros, I was able to get over 50% CPU/MEM every now and then. However if ARM instances are much more capable (=>lower % usage), that might become a concern for me.

  • @slackingfred said:

    Can people reliably get ARM cores now?

    With a paid account (you don't actually pay anything if you stick to the two free x64s and a total of 4 arm cores with 24 gb ram) you'll always get it.

    minimal usage

    Merely 20% of RAM usage is enough for the ARM instance, in my case idling DB and Tor Snowflake is enough even if they barely consume any CPU

    Thanked by 1slackingfred
  • coolicecoolice Member
    edited July 2024

    it do not count vs other instances so just try now and there

    And do not be greedy I tried 2 CPU 4GB when I got mine after couple attempts on random interval of days ... the smaller you choose the greater chance to be available that is the logic i followed ...

    it is better than what i remembered 1041

    https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/7061532

  • Thank you all. With PAYG account I created the A1 instance successfully in one go! Initially I chose 2C/12G and there's no issue changing it to 4C/24G shortly after. I deleted the instance for now and decide to create it when there's real need.

    A GB6 single thread score of 1041 is indeed impressive. It implies the Altra cores at Oracle are running at 3.0 GHz full speed (same as GCP or Azure), not the underclocked 2.5 GHz in AWS.

  • @marrco said:
    no debian images :(

    I was wondering about this, wish this would change

  • August 5, 2024 Introducing OCI Ampere A2: Oracle’s next-generation Arm-based cloud compute https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/post/introducing-oci-ampere-a2-arm-cloud-compute

  • @varwww said:
    August 5, 2024 Introducing OCI Ampere A2: Oracle’s next-generation Arm-based cloud compute https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/post/introducing-oci-ampere-a2-arm-cloud-compute

    Cool, but free tier?

  • mwmw Member

    @kvz12 said:

    @varwww said:
    August 5, 2024 Introducing OCI Ampere A2: Oracle’s next-generation Arm-based cloud compute https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/post/introducing-oci-ampere-a2-arm-cloud-compute

    Cool, but free tier?

    Not as far as I can see

  • 22:04:38 up 1800 days, 08:49, 1 user, load average: 0.97, 0.97, 1.13

    Order Date: Friday, September 27, 2019 12:00 PM UTC

    arm 4c 24gb instance.

    Thanked by 2niranjan Ouji
  • @mikewazar said:

    @kvz12 said:

    @varwww said:
    August 5, 2024 Introducing OCI Ampere A2: Oracle’s next-generation Arm-based cloud compute https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/post/introducing-oci-ampere-a2-arm-cloud-compute

    Cool, but free tier?

    Not as far as I can see

    That's unfortunate, maybe it's in select regions for now

  • I've already scrolled through 64 pages, and I need some updated answers to questions that were already addressed before (especially regarding the Pay-as-you-go account that I have, which is intended to stay within the always free tier allocation):

    • On the cloud network free tier linked here: https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/FreeTier/freetier_topic-Always_Free_Resources.htm#freetier_topic_Always_Free_Resources_VCNs, I can't find information on how many IPv4 addresses a tenancy can get in the free tier. With IPv4 addresses already dwindling and with AWS already charging for IPv4 usage on their EC2 instances, this seems important compared to about two years ago. Previous answers range from 4 ephemeral IP addresses (the maximum number of instances you can create anyway due to the boot storage limit on the free tier—e.g., 50 GB times 4 already reaches the 200 GB limit) to 6 (removing the boot storage free tier limit as once shown on the link) and a single reserved IPv4 address. What's the current limit for IPv4 addresses before exceeding the free tier?

    • Also, regarding boot volumes, there's something called block volume performance https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/Block/Concepts/blockvolumeperformance.htm#perf_levels, where you can adjust the VPU/GB for better disk performance. I can't find in the current documentation what the limit is for free tier volumes. Long ago, someone adjusted the VPU to the maximum, and it did not incur charges as it was an "Always Free" volume. Is that still the case now, or does Oracle put a limit on VPU performance for the free tier, and exceeding the defaults will incur charges on a pay-as-you-go account?

  • @ricannardo said:
    I've already scrolled through 64 pages, and I need some updated answers to questions that were already addressed before (especially regarding the Pay-as-you-go account that I have, which is intended to stay within the always free tier allocation):

    • On the cloud network free tier linked here: https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/FreeTier/freetier_topic-Always_Free_Resources.htm#freetier_topic_Always_Free_Resources_VCNs, I can't find information on how many IPv4 addresses a tenancy can get in the free tier. With IPv4 addresses already dwindling and with AWS already charging for IPv4 usage on their EC2 instances, this seems important compared to about two years ago. Previous answers range from 4 ephemeral IP addresses (the maximum number of instances you can create anyway due to the boot storage limit on the free tier—e.g., 50 GB times 4 already reaches the 200 GB limit) to 6 (removing the boot storage free tier limit as once shown on the link) and a single reserved IPv4 address. What's the current limit for IPv4 addresses before exceeding the free tier?

    • Also, regarding boot volumes, there's something called block volume performance https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/Block/Concepts/blockvolumeperformance.htm#perf_levels, where you can adjust the VPU/GB for better disk performance. I can't find in the current documentation what the limit is for free tier volumes. Long ago, someone adjusted the VPU to the maximum, and it did not incur charges as it was an "Always Free" volume. Is that still the case now, or does Oracle put a limit on VPU performance for the free tier, and exceeding the defaults will incur charges on a pay-as-you-go account?

    Dunno about the IPV4. The boot volumes yeah, i reinstalled one instance last week and was able to set the performance to the max (120 i think it was)

  • @jjkko said: i reinstalled one instance last week and was able to set the performance to the max (120 i think it was)

    I already know that you can set the volume performance to max for always free volume, but did the cost in the budget dashboard in your account budged up after a week of running? Any performance improvement on the boot disk even if the instance is not so-called "Multipath-Enabled" https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/Block/Tasks/troubleshootingmultipathattachments.htm#troubleshootuhp_MultipathNotEnabled ?

  • @ricannardo said:
    I've already scrolled through 64 pages, and I need some updated answers to questions that were already addressed before (especially regarding the Pay-as-you-go account that I have, which is intended to stay within the always free tier allocation):

    • On the cloud network free tier linked here: https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/FreeTier/freetier_topic-Always_Free_Resources.htm#freetier_topic_Always_Free_Resources_VCNs, I can't find information on how many IPv4 addresses a tenancy can get in the free tier. With IPv4 addresses already dwindling and with AWS already charging for IPv4 usage on their EC2 instances, this seems important compared to about two years ago. Previous answers range from 4 ephemeral IP addresses (the maximum number of instances you can create anyway due to the boot storage limit on the free tier—e.g., 50 GB times 4 already reaches the 200 GB limit) to 6 (removing the boot storage free tier limit as once shown on the link) and a single reserved IPv4 address. What's the current limit for IPv4 addresses before exceeding the free tier?

    • Also, regarding boot volumes, there's something called block volume performance https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/Block/Concepts/blockvolumeperformance.htm#perf_levels, where you can adjust the VPU/GB for better disk performance. I can't find in the current documentation what the limit is for free tier volumes. Long ago, someone adjusted the VPU to the maximum, and it did not incur charges as it was an "Always Free" volume. Is that still the case now, or does Oracle put a limit on VPU performance for the free tier, and exceeding the defaults will incur charges on a pay-as-you-go account?

    It's still 4 IPv4 addresses for free, one per instance. Yes, you can still adjust the block volume performance for free on a free tier disk.

    Thanked by 1ricannardo
  • @kvz12 said: It's still 4 IPv4 addresses for free, one per instance.

    Invalid VNIC parameters: (400, LimitExceeded, false) Limit for ephemeral public IP per tenant of 6 has been already reached. (opc-request-id: dummyRequestId)

    It's more if you attach more vnic per instance :D

    Thanked by 1slackingfred
  • @JabJab said:

    @kvz12 said: It's still 4 IPv4 addresses for free, one per instance.

    Invalid VNIC parameters: (400, LimitExceeded, false) Limit for ephemeral public IP per tenant of 6 has been already reached. (opc-request-id: dummyRequestId)

    It's more if you attach more vnic per instance :D

    Only werks for the ARMs. xD

  • @xaoc said: Only werks for the ARMs. xD

    Ah yeah.
    You can however add one Reserved IP as secondary IP to VNIC on non-ARM.
    My always Free have 7 IPs on 4 instances (2 are ARMs) :D

  • @ricannardo said:

    @jjkko said: i reinstalled one instance last week and was able to set the performance to the max (120 i think it was)

    I already know that you can set the volume performance to max for always free volume, but did the cost in the budget dashboard in your account budged up after a week of running? Any performance improvement on the boot disk even if the instance is not so-called "Multipath-Enabled" https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/Block/Tasks/troubleshootingmultipathattachments.htm#troubleshootuhp_MultipathNotEnabled ?

    No, that doesn't incur any charges, as long as your disk capacity totals below 200 GB.
    However, mind that E2.1.Micro instances will not benefit from disk performance above 20. (A1 instances will; you can get 10K+ IOPS and 100MB/s+ throughput by maxing it out to 120.)

    Thanked by 2ricannardo vicaya
  • Update: The theoretical values for a single 200GB boot volume with 120 VPUs are 360MB/s throughput and 45K IOPS. I can't test that since I need to split the 200GB across instances, but performance should be proportional to volume size and linear to the number of VPUs.

  • I think officially you cannot prepay OCI services (keep your account in credit) , is there any workaround or somehow pay in advance a sum?

    I wouldn't mind giving them some money (instead of leeching on the free tier) but a while back my card was stolen and I got a new one just in time before the charge would go through.
    I have a small concern that if this happens again and the payment fails I'll get locked out of the account (and it's nearly impossible to get a new one). Also, they're quite picky with the credit cards so there's also a chance that the new card may get declined for some weird random reason.

  • gksgks Member

    I wish to buy 20 vpus and 50 gb to 100 gb extra space for volume for 1-3 usd per month. Mine is research work, no content only generated data hosted.

  • All my instances in Tokyo are down, and when I try to login to the dashboard it says the credential is incorrect, resetting still result in incorrect credential. Anyone encountering this?

  • gksgks Member

    @martheen said:
    All my instances in Tokyo are down, and when I try to login to the dashboard it says the credential is incorrect, resetting still result in incorrect credential. Anyone encountering this?

    From India, can confirm, the credential errors, looks like volunteered by Oracle people purposefully, password reset or nothing works, talk to customer care, they will say, it will be working etc, some hidden secrets within Oracle. No explanation is given, except a cryptic message replies from them.

    I don't think, Oracle a serious company for Cloud computing, possibly don't rely on their DC or their technologies for cloud. Possibly they pushed cloud along with VMWare like companies got into cloud, just seeing AWS, Azure Success.

    They failed Data Warehouse, all their legacies systems could not bring up to market. They add license cost a lot, to maintain the profits, their incremental in support cost is about 8% every year, they say inline with inflation. About 206% increase in support price 10 years. Their clients are trapped, unwise to use Oracle for mid tier company.

  • I am locked out of my account because I can't login into my Oracle app from my phone to do the 2FA.

    I talked with a guy from support and nothing happened, fuck Oracle.

  • @COLBYLICIOUS said:
    I am locked out of my account because I can't login into my Oracle app from my phone to do the 2FA.

    I talked with a guy from support and nothing happened, fuck Oracle.

    They sent a lot of email about logins, like few emails a week. Did you read and follow their instructions from the email?

  • @COLBYLICIOUS said:
    I am locked out of my account because I can't login into my Oracle app from my phone to do the 2FA.

    I talked with a guy from support and nothing happened, fuck Oracle.

    If you can prove your identity, they will reset it for you.

  • @xaoc said:

    @COLBYLICIOUS said:
    I am locked out of my account because I can't login into my Oracle app from my phone to do the 2FA.

    I talked with a guy from support and nothing happened, fuck Oracle.

    If you can prove your identity, they will reset it for you.

    I already did that and the support said that I will receive an email with this situation, I got nothing...

  • @COLBYLICIOUS said:

    @xaoc said:

    @COLBYLICIOUS said:
    I am locked out of my account because I can't login into my Oracle app from my phone to do the 2FA.

    I talked with a guy from support and nothing happened, fuck Oracle.

    If you can prove your identity, they will reset it for you.

    I already did that and the support said that I will receive an email with this situation, I got nothing...

    Try contacting support again if 2FA is still active. Don't freak out, have patience. xD

  • gksgks Member

    The problem is what happens in production, we thought about oracle as db due to free tier and certain affordable cost with volumes and generous bandwidth, if you could not login to your account along with 2FA , took 4 days for login. All working, suddenly not able to login, multiple chat over support, nothing resolved for 4 days.

    We haven't explained what was the issue for just simple login. I did buy IO throughput, additional volume, also had 400 SGD credit for trial.

    If it works for free, just use it. Mine is just data application, for data analytics. IoT dataset, nothing about abusive content, nothing is available to public as well.

    Looking at support cost every year, license cost, PostgreSQL is the best open source.

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