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C1Vhosting is scam
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c1vhosting must be currently typing up a 20 page response....
Why answer now when they have 90 days to answer? /s
I was initially on the seller's side if it was clearly communicated delivery was up to 90 days.
But the buyer asked for the subnet IP's and it was provided. That is a reasonable assumption that it's immediately available. Otherwise, the response should have been he doesn't know, yet, as order hasn't yet been fulfilled.
Tl;dr buyer was under false pretense that he'd get immediate delivery and then told it will be 90 days. (Note, no care to imply it would happen any sooner)
So yes, I would consider this seller shady AF.
@c1vhosting also, make sure your response makes it clear why he got another invoice after 4 days without the service actually commencing. Surely, you wouldn't be charging money for services not delivered?
I agree with you.
I missed that he had given him the IP of the subnet, I did a little check now and it appears that 88.151.9.0/24 (the subnet provided) is owned by ORG-SS1215-RIPE (Splynx s.r.o.) and not by C1VHosting, it seems like they are reselling it.
https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/query?searchtext=88.151.9.0/24
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I suppose we'll need to wait 90 days for C1V's response?
Are the LOA's sent using IPoAC?
You nearly had me. Double check the OP..
Ah, sorry, my bad
I thought that you were referring to @c1vhosting (the defendant) and not to @AndrewSSD (the plaintiff)
Splynx sells a billing & network management system for isps, i dont think they are reselling ip subnets or atleast no info about it on their website.
Anyway ill come back in 89 days to take a look at C1V's answer.
A simple question why not refunding me if i don't want your services? Is the provided screenshots not enough for him to send me the refund and close this case ? What should i do more to prove he is scammer, This seller still wants to win the paypal dispute even we don't have a delivered services from their side. Who knows how many people will be scammed too under the Host Rep tag which provided to him.
"Next Monday". Is this a HostSolutions.ro branch?
I'm with you on this. If there was no scam, he would just cancel and refund you. No refund and no meaningful response in this thread leads me to believe he's scamming.
The PP dispute muddies the water a bit, but he could close the case with a refund via that process any time and the matter would be resolved (with him paying the dispute fee to PP as his punishment for being dodgy)
Nope, this is nexusbytes subdivision
this forum have some scam company/unscrupulous company, but they have paid a protection fees(patron) so end-user usually is can't challenge them.
But this time seem different, because they're both are provider this time.
Sincerely hope that lowendtalk can investigate and drive out those unscrupulous companies.
they did not payed $200 so for sure they lose this round to the provider who payed.
@jbiloh please deploy relevant protocols in order to prevent further scam spread and please initiate official request for information from accused person/entity via proper B2B channels (email, phone, mail or fax).
Lol what? It's a username though. I use different aliases as usernames for online platforms as well. How the fuck is that unprofessional and dishonest ffs?
P.S. I'm not the same Andrew as the OP.
I'm not professional because we are using aliases with our usernames, I feel afraid they will report our usernames as we are using fake identites i should use my full name inside communities. What a joke.
I will be very disappointed now if your surname isn't SSD.
Andrew Subnet Supply Delayed.
When I saw 90 day term for delivery, I was surprised. A 90 day delivery term is most unusual for the hosting industry.
In my opinion, @c1vhosting should have made it very clear that the delivery time would be 90 days. A large dialog box in the middle of the screen before accepting the order would be appropriate, "Are you sure you want to commit this order, which may take up to 90 days to deliver?"
If the only place where @AndrewSSD was warned is the fine print in a separate Terms page that I saw, then C1VHosting is deliberately deceiving their customers with the fine print. By the way, I found the Terms in a separate PDF file. It is written in Italian, which is expected for a company in Italy. I translated it to English to read it, using Google Translate. Search for "90".
https://www.c1vhosting.it/termini.pdf
Speaking of which, is @TWC your real name btw?
The c is pronounced 'at'
Is @c1vhosting dead?
I think it's a good idea to build a black list like @yoursunny 's "No IPv6 Hall of Shame" about providers that have bad or no customer service.
They answer only on paypal disputes @c1vhosting are trying to win the case and make some false statements to paypal staff to win the case. Then sent me a new invoice wants me to pay for the renewal and if i didn't renew the service i purchased in 15 days they will kill me or they will contact paypal and force me to take money from my paypal account. lol.
IT'S THAT SIMPLE JUST REFUND ME. I DON'T WANT TO USE YOUR SERVICE. BE WARE GUYS DON'T USE @c1vhosting
taken from https://www.c1vhosting.it/termini.pdf
I Servizi richiesti dal Cliente sono attivati entro e non oltre 90 dalla conferma dell’ordine
translation
The Services requested by the Customer are activated no later than 90 from order confirmation
90 what ? it could be 90 years as well as 90 minutes... it is not speciifed
90 Mondays, of course.
Isn't it forbidden, at least in the EU, to hide terms important for a deal like this? I believe it is. @AndrewSSD if you want to win the dispute, I would look into this because it would be a substantial argument.
Thanks this is a good point i will share it with the paypal staff.
Wish you luck @AndrewSSD! Such providers like @c1vhosting should be banned from LET and any other forums. Seems like they have cociu syndrome with these mondays.
Are you pretending to be an American, even though you're from Egypt?