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It is not that simple. I consider myself a competent system administrator and have some papers saying that I am proficient at that. I have also managed mail servers for many years.
Some considerations:
Those are just some general challenges which need to be addressed, but there are other issues like mediocre or expensive client integrations in many different platforms, addressing contact storage and synchronization, and just the big learning curve to master email server administration.
mailcheap.co
Did some research on icloud+ option. Apparently you must use apple ecosystem for this option, limited to 3 addresses per domain as another use pointed out. There are no IMAP/POP3 options available. Cannot find much information DKIM, DMARC and SPF services for icloud.
For those who are looking for clean ip, check out eth-services.de
I've seen mailcow users recommend it.
Ah wow, Yeah I see how people might not wanna pay for it.
Honestly tho, When I was trying out other options, Nothing truely worked for me. cPanel/DA/Cyberpanel/CWP were decent but never seamed to properly work, I tried other email clients even using a very clean subnet (yes I took out the whole subnet {/29,/26 even /24 once}) and they all either failed me, required me to spend much time on maintaining them or just the costs weren't practical.
I don't think I'm being unreasonable when I say that there's nothing that beats the big players, for when it comes to costs, support and the actual mail reputation. If you're tightly integrated with their services then it might just be worth it. I've seen google price their service according to the country economy but I can't confirm that. The service is very good tbh even for a personal user like me.
The best thing I do like about google is the support, They simply help you regardless. They helped me move everything from my free gmail account to the workspace account and helped me with a lot of the stuff while I was still making the transition (even did some things for me). They also tend to inform about everything from price changes to contract changes..etc.
Not trying to be a fanboy here but honestly something from the big players is the best anyone here will find.
Wow that's great, had never even considered Apple. It appears that I could set up all my domains and get all the addresses with calendaring for as little as $12/year for 50GB. Does anybody here have experience using iCloud+ for an email server?
Look this video:
For email only, Cloudflare Email Routing + Gmail + SES is an excellent choice.
I'm using this combo for multiple domains (I'm the only user).
What is SES?
Amazon Simple Email: https://aws.amazon.com/ses/
I use SES for outgoing email thru Gmail.
Edit:
Cloudflare incoming routes to Gmail.
Gmail is used as an Email Client.
SES for Outgoing
But can you use your own domain to send mail trough gmail?
No. SES for Outgoing. (Or use any other email sending service.)
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/22370?hl=en
You need to use SES (or other relay service you like) for that. Following the settings above, you configure your email and add SES SMTP server, user and pass.
After that, check "Reply from the same address the message was sent from" in "Accounts and Import" settings and you're done.
Why people keep suggesting SES or other transactional email services as comparable alternatives?
Personal email is not an allowed use case for Amazon SES as far as I know, and transactional email services generally have worse deliverability.
It can work, but it is not the right tool for the job and the service provider has not even considered/allowed this use case.
2 more interesting alternatives:
Other alternatives discussed:
What is the url for this? I cannot find it in a Google search and a search for "bytedance mail" demonstrates that Bytedance uses Google Workspace for their own emails.
I use Fastmail. It's an excellent service. I highly recommend it. You get essentially unlimited domains and emails. It supports wildcards and you can create quick mailing lists.
https://www.larksuite.com/pricing
It is said that Lark's Email(NOTE: NOT Feishu, the original Chinese version) is a wrapper of AWS SES which means that sending and receiving can be a couple seconds slower than other providers which kinds of confirming the rumour by itself.
People are not suggesting nothing, people use SES for my use case 😉.
User should choose whatever they want.
Damn expensive compared to something like mxroute or fastmail or mailbox.org
The problem is, Amazon does not allow this use case. To get your SES account out of the sandbox, Amazon will ask you questions which you can not answer truthfully if the plan is to use the service for personal email. Amazon offers a different service for that, more expensive.
If you are a low volume sender, I understand that it is possible to fly under the radar, but the risk of getting your service suspended for misuse will always be there. Also, deliverability will likely be less than stellar.
inbox.eu? from what I know they have very low price for mailbox. ($3/y for 100G iirc)
any idea on the deliverablitity and spam filtering?
To me it seems like this isn't required unless I am looking something wrong?
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204247
Anyone fund catch-all option on the Lark Suite?
they are very classic provider in local market. I am guessing they are doing the right job.
https://support.google.com/a/answer/60217?hl=en
Something good for those who wants to keep users, Playstore purchases and youtube data. It will keep working.
Do you happen to know what will happen to our emails?? Do we still need to find an alternative for them?
judging from prev/preceding posts and replies, gmail and alike will disappear but youtube will remain. my understanding on this is that, gmail is a cost for alpha, but ytb is a source of profit, collecting user data for alpha. ytb normally doesn't produce or require additional storage and maintenance costs.
I currently have not received any notice or announcement frm alpha/google. that's a bit weird.
I haven't received any notification from them either. I asked the google domains department what will happen to my domains and email since I can't afford to upgrade. I don't really understand their response.
I think they mean it is free email service connected to my domain so I don't have to upgrade my subscription? I am guessing they are saying if I keep renewing my domain in google domains I can keep using it for email? My domains I use for the account is same as my legacy account.
They said
"Thank you for contacting the Google Domains Support Team.
Your G Suite legacy emails (now known as Google Workspace) ,is a free email service connected to your domain. You don't have to upgrade your subscription because you will lose your free service. I understand you are under financial stress right now. Your domain goes under an annual lifecycle and needs to be renewed. If you fail to renew the domains, they will be deleted and your emails will stop working."
Maybe someone can translate it better for me?
Contact google support, not google domains support. They are discussing the like 10 bucks per year domain that is used.
What I'm thinking of doing - appreciate feedback. I have it setup already and is working great - just not sure if this is the best way! Seems to let me use my domain with gmail
Reason for doing it this way? I really like gmail's web interface and integration in my android phone. Plus I won't need to retrain family members and wife acceptance factor should be ok.
It seems to work great, and when sending mail I don't get the "sent on behalf of" message. So my phone is only connected to Gmail, but I'm using mxroute for all the backend mail handling.
Curious for feedback from people with a strong background in this stuff. Is this practical, viable?