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Lots of cloud for little money. Hetzner Online redefines cloud hosting.

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  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited January 2018

    @fLoo said:

    @sureiam said:
    Gotta love giving a copy of your ID to foreign companies.

    TBH germany is one of those countries where you can actually do that :-)

    Yeah, not like they've ever caused a worldwide problem in fairly recent history or anything.

    No trollface emoji to go here...

    Thanked by 1pike
  • @spywork said:

    @seaeagle said:

    @spywork said: Has anyone tried to install a custom Windows iso? With the qemu method the kvm emulation does not work since the cpu does not support this parameter. I tried with templates for other hosting and they do not work.

    I havent worked out how to custom install windows yet.

    No working method. All template i found not work, install with qemu not work. Other method?

    You need a template with SCSI Harddisk. It works.

    wget -O- link/windows-with.scsi.gz | gunzip | dd of=/dev/sda

  • @smile93 said:

    @spywork said:

    @seaeagle said:

    @spywork said: Has anyone tried to install a custom Windows iso? With the qemu method the kvm emulation does not work since the cpu does not support this parameter. I tried with templates for other hosting and they do not work.

    I havent worked out how to custom install windows yet.

    No working method. All template i found not work, install with qemu not work. Other method?

    You need a template with SCSI Harddisk. It works.

    wget -O- link/windows-with.scsi.gz | gunzip | dd of=/dev/sda

    can you please share more steps to do this...should I first provision with an available OS and sideload in any manner?

  • Great price , installing openfire now

  • @smile93 said:

    @spywork said:

    @seaeagle said:

    @spywork said: Has anyone tried to install a custom Windows iso? With the qemu method the kvm emulation does not work since the cpu does not support this parameter. I tried with templates for other hosting and they do not work.

    I havent worked out how to custom install windows yet.

    No working method. All template i found not work, install with qemu not work. Other method?

    You need a template with SCSI Harddisk. It works.

    wget -O- link/windows-with.scsi.gz | gunzip | dd of=/dev/sda

    can you please share more steps to do this...should I first provision with an available OS and sideload in any manner?

  • nqservices said:

    From those who are using this new Hetzner cloud servers, can you tell me if they also have this 2FA option for the client area + control panel of the cloud server? Or is like almost all other providers where client area has 2FA and the VPS control panel does not has 2FA?

    You log in with your main Hetzner account which does have 2FA. But, there is a link to turn off the 2FA, presumably by email confirmation (I haven't tried it). So it becomes as weak as the email account you use with them, if that's how they do it.

  • VovaMVovaM Member
    edited January 2018

    can you please share more steps to do this...should I first provision with an available OS and sideload in any manner?

    In general terms (in theory), you should install Windows on your own virtual machine (local KVM\Hyper-V hypervisor), attach virtio-iso, install Virtio SCSI,Virtio Network,etc Virtio drivers, set up RDP, make an image (dd for Linux\KVM, or reboot in Clonezilla for Hyper-V), Then "restore" the image on hetzner cloud machine.
    ... but I'd prefer KVM and nested virtualization (disabled in Hetzner cloud for today; Hetzner
    support is silent on my ticket)

  • @VovaM said:

    can you please share more steps to do this...should I first provision with an available OS and sideload in any manner?

    In general terms (in theory), you should install Windows on your own virtual machine (local KVM\Hyper-V hypervisor), attach virtio-iso, install Virtio SCSI,Virtio Network,etc Virtio drivers, set up RDP, make an image (dd for Linux\KVM, or reboot in Clonezilla for Hyper-V), Then "restore" the image on hetzner cloud machine.

    Thanks, not for faint-hearted like me I think, will wait for OOB support from hetzner if it comes through, thanks again.

  • Hetzner answer:

    Dear Client,
    we do not offer nested virtualization on our CX models.

    Thanked by 1Aidan
  • @VovaM said:
    Hetzner answer:

    Dear Client,
    we do not offer nested virtualization on our CX models.

    Don't tell me you're surprised.

  • There is something unusual about Hetzner's Debian 9.3 installation image, at least for these VM's, causing the apt-get PATH issues mentioned further above. I got back a ticket response saying "That sounds like a configuration issue on your server. As we do not offer any software support we can't help you." Well yes, it's a configuration issue, but it only happens with Hetzner's installation image as far as I can tell. I brought up Debian 9.3 on a DO droplet just to be sure, and the issue didn't occur there. I haven't yet dug into exactly what's different but it seems odd that apt-get should expect /sbin to be on the path.

  • @willie said:
    There is something unusual about Hetzner's Debian 9.3 installation image, at least for these VM's, causing the apt-get PATH issues mentioned further above. I got back a ticket response saying "That sounds like a configuration issue on your server. As we do not offer any software support we can't help you." Well yes, it's a configuration issue, but it only happens with Hetzner's installation image as far as I can tell. I brought up Debian 9.3 on a DO droplet just to be sure, and the issue didn't occur there. I haven't yet dug into exactly what's different but it seems odd that apt-get should expect /sbin to be on the path.

    That sounds like a configuration issue on your server. As Hetzner doesn't offer any software support they probably can't help you.

  • @maldovia said:
    That sounds like a configuration issue on your server. As Hetzner doesn't offer any software support they probably can't help you.

    No, I do not think so. There is something wrong with the iso hetzner provided, thus it should be corrected by themselves.

  • angstromangstrom Moderator
    edited January 2018

    @maldovia said:

    @willie said:
    There is something unusual about Hetzner's Debian 9.3 installation image, at least for these VM's, causing the apt-get PATH issues mentioned further above. I got back a ticket response saying "That sounds like a configuration issue on your server. As we do not offer any software support we can't help you." Well yes, it's a configuration issue, but it only happens with Hetzner's installation image as far as I can tell. I brought up Debian 9.3 on a DO droplet just to be sure, and the issue didn't occur there. I haven't yet dug into exactly what's different but it seems odd that apt-get should expect /sbin to be on the path.

    That sounds like a configuration issue on your server. As Hetzner doesn't offer any software support they probably can't help you.

    Yes, that sounds like a configuration issue on your server. As they do not offer any software support they can't help you.

    Edit: ;-)

  • Can we run rutorrent?

  • Can we run rutorrent?

    Sure, just remember that it's Hetzner - don't do anything illegal or you'll have a short stay.

  • asbasb Member

    I'm seeing really disappointing transfer speed from Hetzner to Linode (Newark) when using their speedtest server. wget http://speed.hetzner.de/1GB.bin took 23 minutes to complete (average 739KB/s). By comparison, I transferred a 1GB test file from a Clouvider VM (London) in 29 seconds (35.7MB/s) - that's with TCP BBR enabled, which will help a little. Is there a problem with the speed test server, or are people also seeing similar problems with Hetzner VMs?

    Hetzner have indicated on Twitter that the networking team are taking a look at least.

  • williewillie Member
    edited January 2018

    angstrom said: As they do not offer any software support they can't help you.

    I can work around the issue by setting PATH in my shell, so I don't particularly need help from them about it. But they should fix their installation image to do what everyone else's does, so other people won't hit the same problem. I'll try to figure out what's going on with it though. Not tonight, it's late.

  • angstromangstrom Moderator
    edited January 2018

    @willie said:

    angstrom said: As they do not offer any software support they can't help you.

    I can work around the issue by setting PATH in my shell, so I don't particularly need help from them about it. But they should fix their installation image to do what everyone else's does, so other people won't hit the same problem. I'll try to figure out what's going on with it though. Not tonight, it's late.

    I was mechanically repeating what @maldovia wrote, who was repeating what Hetzner said. I don't know whether @maldovia was serious, but I certainly wasn't! (See my added ";-)".)

    Given the PATH problem that you described, the Debian image seems to be broken in this respect, I would definitely agree.

  • @Aidan said:
    Can we run rutorrent?

    Sure, just remember that it's Hetzner - don't do anything illegal or you'll have a short stay.

    I'm holding off on netflix subscription, because I know that LET is going to be Hetzner entertainment for a few weeks.

    Thanked by 2Aidan steny
  • @angstrom said:

    @willie said:

    angstrom said: As they do not offer any software support they can't help you.

    I can work around the issue by setting PATH in my shell, so I don't particularly need help from them about it. But they should fix their installation image to do what everyone else's does, so other people won't hit the same problem. I'll try to figure out what's going on with it though. Not tonight, it's late.

    I was mechanically repeating what @maldovia wrote, who was repeating what Hetzner said. I don't know whether @maldovia was serious, but I certainly wasn't! (See my added ";-)".)

    Given the PATH problem that you described, the Debian image seems to be broken in this respect, I would definitely agree.

    I have an idea. I'll switch to OVH support mode.

    Please send iperf.

  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL Member, Top Host, Host Rep

    @vimalware said:
    @Hetzner_OL are snapshots stored on ceph or ZFS storage infrastructure?

    Snapshots are stored compressed in object storage. --Katie, Marketing

    Thanked by 1vimalware
  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL Member, Top Host, Host Rep

    @lemon said:
    So @Hetzner_OL i just created an account and needed no verification or whatsoever, no payment method and i was able to create a server. so anyone who wants can create a server and as it is postpaid, he's able to do the dickmove and dont pay?

    Perhaps you still have an active account with us already? Normally first-time customers are asked for an ID to try to prevent abuse and fake orders. --Katie, Marketing

  • @erkin said:

    @maldovia said:
    That sounds like a configuration issue on your server. As Hetzner doesn't offer any software support they probably can't help you.

    No, I do not think so. There is something wrong with the iso hetzner provided, thus it should be corrected by themselves.

    I imagine that it's a Debian template that Hetzner provide and not an original Debian ISO.

  • Hetzner_OL said: object storage.

    Woah! I can't wait to hear more about that.

  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL Member, Top Host, Host Rep
    edited January 2018

    @willie said:
    @Hetzner_OL since the instances are apparently resizeable, is it possible to restore a snapshot to a differently sized server than the one it was made from? That assumes the new server has enough disk space, of course. If that's not currently possible, it would be a useful feature to add sometime.

    Yes, you can restore a snapshot to any server with the same or larger disk size.

    Regarding the questions about CPU usage: I'm sure they're not just about crypto mining. A lot of people here transcode a lot, and so forth.

    Thanks! --Katie, Marketing

    Thanked by 1willie
  • @Hetzner_OL said:

    @lemon said:
    So @Hetzner_OL i just created an account and needed no verification or whatsoever, no payment method and i was able to create a server. so anyone who wants can create a server and as it is postpaid, he's able to do the dickmove and dont pay?

    Perhaps you still have an active account with us already? Normally first-time customers are asked for an ID to try to prevent abuse and fake orders. --Katie, Marketing

    My account also no need verification. Well i'm not an abuser though. :D

  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL Member, Top Host, Host Rep

    @datanoise said:

    Hetzner_OL said: If you (and others) are asking about CPU usage for reasons related to crypto currencies, please see: https://www.hetzner.com/rechtliches/cloud-server/ --Katie, Marketing

    What about other uses: Is using almost 100% of the CPU for several minutes / hours OK? Is there a limit or could a busy website run there with no fear of being shut down for using too much CPU?

    @WSS @asb @IAlwaysBeCoding - In general, we don't have a problem with those other uses. However, if your CPU is in use 24/7 we will look into it. If the usage seems consistant with cypto currency mining, we will terminate the server and will also not allow the customer to create any new servers. We will not tolerate any violations of our system polices. --Katie, Marketing

  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL Member, Top Host, Host Rep

    @datanoise said:
    The 20% price increase for 7 automated nightly backups is interesting to be able to restore quickly to a new system in case of a disaster.. Where are those stored?

    They are stored in object storage.

    Regarding the local storage, is there some sort of RAID?

    https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/CloudServer/en#What_is_the_difference_between_local_and_ceph_disks_for_servers.3F
    --Katie, Marketing

  • I'm curious if the Ceph will suck as badly as it does with OVH. Where it's total disaster. During the last 7 days, multiple servers have crashed during Ceph failing / day.

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