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nope. I will think through a better solution for the cost though, it will just take time.
This week has been hectic, I wanted to have things ready for this but I planned poorly. Co-worker went on holiday and picking up his work was heavy.
This weekend should see the start of me kicking virtkick out the door. And releasing the aus location.
Will you be switching to something like SolusVM or Virtualizor and using the english-made WHMCS for billing as a new system?
Yes, WHMCS + Virtualizor
I want OVH to build a New Zealand datacenter, that would be sick, they could put it on the upper north part of it.
I'm surprised Amsterdam wasn't one of their locations given online.net is also a France hosting provider and they built one there.
Well it looks like for now OVH is going to take a break from buying any more pieces of land and building a DC, I can imagine as right now they're still trying to hire lots of people in places like Sydney, etc since the French people would need work visas and stuff to stay there.
A side note, my hard drive on my SYD server has 2 months of power on time, so it seems like the discovery servers at least were deployed around 2 months ago, they just needed to get the Anti-DDoS working which it works amazing now before they could activate services.
look at https://www.ovh.ie/discover/ there are 7 more locations to come
http://sgp.smokeping.ovh.net/smokeping?target=APAC
Pings are pretty bad even for major home networks in SG (Starhub, Singtel), holding off buying for now lol
Also did I say that they're using the Malaysia flag and country code (MY) for Singapore haha.
Yeah, the pings are quite high.
I haven't been able to decide whether I should cancel my order from Oct '16 or just wait a few more months for their network to improve - risking cost escalation or stock depletion.
Just saw this too a few days ago, ovh is really killing it this will surely make other Au provider to lower prices
@Oliver Is Ransom IT gonna be in troubles now? xD
No, and I doubt any provider in AU will drop prices because of OVH.
Meet you, aussie mates, somewhere between bargaining and acceptance
Not sure what that means @Yura. But in response to the general comments about AU pricing, I would agree a lot of providers in AU did charge a lot - probably too much for their dedicated offers. OVH might put pressure on them but I'd say any business that drops price immediately in response to 1 new provider in a market doesn't have the best business plan or mindset in the first place.
The market associated with people in this forum is tiny and not one where you can build a solid business from anyway, that much should be obvious to anyone here watching the hosts come and go and only a small number of businesses who have actually been around for a long time.
OVH is offering servers at a great price in one location in Australia, but they have some pretty significant disadvantages as well compared to a lot of local providers.
Indeed, for example. NO DATACENTER STAFF !?! they have had 3 Months to hire someone and still nada
Pretty sure you were being trolled by that comment.
But anyway most providers with gear in Equinix don't have their own staff there on site; they rely on Equinix to do hands on work. Equinix charge something like 240 AUD per hour for that (that's about 185 USD). That's probably why OVH don't offer some customised drive configurations or other alterations to the servers.
@Oliver, I have not had a pleasure of being one of your clients but many people here had it and praised your services. That's good because LET is ruthless. What I was trying to say is that OVH is a 500 pounds gorilla that just landed directly on your faces. It is a game changer and will drive prices down in AU market. Isolation is a two sided road and you enjoyed both advantages and disadvantages of being in the middle of nowhere, internet wise. Now that begins to change. You say it is unwise to change pricing immediately in response to 1 new provider, downplaying the fact that their arrival was announced 1 year ago, and they are probably bigger than all others combined (except telecoms like Telstra), and not going to deadpool.
When you eagerly jumped on that fake email and explained how OVH has fiscal difficulties to pay local workers just confirms to me your stage of denial. The fact that labor is expensive in Australia won't stop OVH in their steps. Automation, huge pockets and market leverage allow them to do what the hell they want to do. Is their AU pricing sustainable for them? I have no idea. But I bet they would rather lose some money and drive competition to the ground than retreat. Or maybe it is profitable.
You said some charge too much for dedicated servers. I disagree here here, everything is very expensive - dedi, VPS, bandwidth. VPS prices will go down like a drunk penguin because OVH brings resellers with them. And this niche will be disrupted and refilled also.
Not that I say that AU providers were reason for absurd pricing. Geography and Telstra are to blame but don't deny wind of changes. It blows, it definitely blows. And you will adapt and prosper, Oliver.
@Yura Not sure how knowing for a year that they were coming really matters. They frustrated a lot of people and started on a bad foot by delaying deployment by about 3 months.
Sure they are a bigger host than anyone here, but their presence in AU is small and is in one city only. There are at least half a dozen hosts in AU with a bigger local presence than OVH has spread over multiple cities. I am not saying they aren't a 500 pound gorilla as you put it but I think you underestimate the strength and diversity of the market and providers here if you think they are going to force a huge change by launching servers in Sydney only.
I jumped on that email because I didn't know it was fake and it was funny, I got trolled like anyone else who took it seriously.
Your comment about OVH resellers is partly correct in my view; that might affect providers relying on those small plans or VPS only, but a lot of hosting businesses are more diverse than just offering some tiny low margin VPS and they won't be concerned by them.
The funny thing is that people said the same things you are saying now when Vultr launched here in Sydney (that it would have huge affect on local VPS market etc) and as far as I can tell it really made no difference at all. People also said the same things when SoftLayer came in as well. These markets are big growth industries so more providers and options coming into the market and lower prices being offered here and there doesn't guarantee that anyone has to make room or get out or be run out of business; there is room for everyone in their own niche.
Also I don't know if you are Aussie or living here but there is typically a preference for small to medium business customers (who proportionally are a big chunk of the economy) to use local providers who charge in AUD and have local contacts/support even if it costs more. That is a reality nobody can change.
@Oliver, although I would mention that Vultr's market share, audience and overall impact on the market should not be used to seize up OVH, there is not much we could argue about. It would be a great pleasure for me to pay a visit to beautiful shores and people of Australia and NZ, and I would even consider living down under, but no, I'm not an Aussie myself
I am aware of a heathy preference to support local business and communities. It's a very nice tradition actually.
@Yura Oh I am not really trying to put Vultr on a pedestal next to OVH. As far as I know Vultr is just burning up some suckers VC money. OVH clearly have a solid and enormous business. My point is more that comments about some foreign provider coming in and having a huge affect on Australian providers has echoed around in many industries for a long time. In some it is totally valid and has basically destroyed some local industries (automobile manufacture for example), but I don't see it happening in any IT business areas at all.
You can think I am in denial if you wish but I've been running Ransom IT since 2008 and been involved in hosting here in Australia since 2006 so would say I have a reasonable idea of what is going on. I observe OVH launching with interest but don't feel threatened by them and from my communication with other providers here (most who are much larger than my own business) it seems we all look at it the same way.
By the way it's totally simplistic to blame 'geography and Telstra' for high prices of dedicated servers or anything in the hosting industry here. Come and visit Adelaide, South Australia one day and I would be happy to discuss the market here in more detail over a local beer (since we prefer them over any imported one). ;-)
@Oliver, I have strong tendency to put a reasonable distance between myself and any living creature with number of legs greater than four! That's basically the biggest reason I think we should rather meet in Auckland. Bringing local aussie beer sounds like a great proposal, though
I'm in.
I'm scared of the ground shaking in NZ though.
I lived through some earthquakes and landslides. Now I can sleep through it like a baby. And as far as I know, we are going to feel ground doing funny stuff after enough rounds of beer and what else you brew there!
Low Blows.
Besides VULTR piece of s***t Restarts every 3 something days.
PMSL, it was a joke mate hahahhaa
Those earthquakes they had a while ago were like.. yeah
And again recently.
what fake email? the one that someone posted a while ago where they said they had difficulty finding staff?
They are indeed hiring
However about existing datacenter staff, I'm not sure, that one may have been fake or they're using Equinix staff to do what they need to do, but since they own their own private cage in SY1 OVH's own staff may also be doing work in there as well.
I mean Holden still exists but that's under GM now, a similar thing happened with Saab as well but that's another story
Holden is just a badge. Automobile manufacturing in Australia is dead and what still exists is just there because of tax payer funded welfare for that industry...
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That is how you'd go about officially installing ovh supported windows on one of these machines
If you don't have a windows license you can use a key from here to get it installed regardless https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj612867(v=ws.11).aspx however it'll run unactivated