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100TB GVH? You mean 1.66TB

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  • I have real fears about the future of this world when the next generation takes the reigns.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited January 2014

    Sorry brother, going with the dos attack. Using the resources just to see if you can is abusive. Vps isn't just for benchmarking. You know the resources are shared. It's also a dos attack. Intent is not what determines what is a dos. Whoever hosts that file doesn't do it so you can see if you can max out a month of bandwidth.

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  • LeeLee Veteran

    GreenValueHost said: So that justifies you breaking a federal law? I don't think that would fly in court.

    Neither would your constant changing of terms without proper notification.

  • AlexanderMAlexanderM Member, Top Host, Host Rep

    @shovenose said:
    I did not break any laws. I simply tried to use the resources that I paid you for.

    There is stupidity, then there is dam right being a dick.

  • @W1V_Lee - Not ONCE have we changed one of our policies without prior notification. Not ONCE.

  • @AlexanderM said:
    There is stupidity, then there is dam right being a dick.

    This.

  • @shovenose said:
    I did not break any laws. I simply tried to use the resources that I paid you for.

    So if you buy a gun and you shoot someone with it, do you think you're going to get off the hook in court when you say "Oh I was just trying to use the gun I bought" ?

  • Comedy and tired of these dam GVH threads every dam day! It's like feeding a dam old man viagra every hour and making the ole soldier stay at attention 24/7

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @GreenValueHost said:
    So if you buy a gun and you shoot someone with it, do you think you're going to get off the hook in court when you say "Oh I was just trying to use the gun I bought" ?

    You saw that fence and you were like "screw it, I'm going over it."

  • @jarland said:
    You saw that fence and you were like "screw it, I'm going over it."

    Oddly enough, I've thought about doing that more than once. Damn fence, telling me where I can't go.

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  • @shovenose

    I would just like to give you some advice that may be of use to you in your life:

    Going out of your way to make someone look bad will not benefit you or make you look good. In most cases it will backfire like it did this time. People understand when you deliberately go out of your way just for this and they will think much less of you.

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  • texteditortexteditor Member
    edited January 2014

    @GreenValueHost said:
    So if you buy a gun and you shoot someone with it, do you think you're going to get off the hook in court when you say "Oh I was just trying to use the gun I bought" ?

    haha what in god's name are you doing here?

    @GreenValueHost said:
    I'm going to abort your account in the first trimester for this stunt!

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  • Nick_ANick_A Member, Top Host, Host Rep
  • i like that cronjob idea.

  • I'll ask again: @GreenValueHost or @shovenose can you tell me which speedfile he used?

  • perennateperennate Member, Host Rep

    This is obviously an advertisement for GreenValueHost, that is why it's in offers section.

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  • @gsrdgrdghd said:
    I'll ask again: GreenValueHost or shovenose can you tell me which speedfile he used?

    He already stated he didn't use his own.

  • rchurchrchurch Member
    edited January 2014

    I can't see what @shovenose has done wrong. If using 1/60th of the bandwidth promised by GreenValueHost constitutes a DOS attack then GreenValueHost/ColoCrossing is making false promises. Note that at this rate shovenose would not have reached the 100TB allowance with a month. ColoCrossing is knowingly allowing GreenValueHost to make promises they will not permit him to fulfill, so in effect GreenValueHost is wittingly making fraudulent promises.

    A DOS is not about the amount used but the rate at which it is used and @GreenValueHost you have given no indication that other users of the node complained about slow network speeds as a result of shovenose's activity.

    ColoCrossing's concern should have been about impacted speeds and not volumes, after all if they were confident of GVH's ability to pay for overages then they should have allowed it, billed him for it and laughed all the way to the bank. This says more about their confidence of GVH's ability to pay for overages (assuming that he actually pays for regular usage) than their concern for the network.

    @Mun shovenose's activity is only antisocial if it impacts on other users activity, as it is about the rate of usage and not the volume, and GVH has given no indication that other users were impacted. The blockage seems to be about ColoCrossing's confidence on GVH's ability to pay for the volume not the rate of usage. If they can't sustain either the rate or the volume then they shouldn't allow GVH to make those promises.

    Perhaps readers ought to reflect on this thread - http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/20126/colocrossing-et-al which was concerned with the kind of promises the moderators of this forum were allowing advertisers to make, and not with GreenValueHost in particular. The absurdities on this forum are coming home to roost.

    Much as I hate to say this, things have gotten to the point where any reputable host has to consider whether advertising their offerings here tarnishes their image or enhances it.

    LET is living off the reputation created by the previous owners

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    USING and trying to use up for the sole reason of proving a point is NOT the same thing

  • Normally I'd be kicking GVH for lying but in this case you're just being a dick.

    No one cares.

    Next please.

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  • LeeLee Veteran

    JB made a mistake putting GVH out front instead of CVPS. Bring back Chris! :P

  • This is what ColoCrossing sent us:

    We have received notice that 192.3.108.94, which is assigned to your machine la1.securenetworkpanel.com, has been participating in a DDoS attack. Please contact the end user responsible for for this machine/IP and take the appropriate steps to ensure that this machine has not been compromised. Let us know if you need any assistance in this effort and please be aware that failure to provide a timely update will result in immediate suspension of service.

    This means that shovenose's repeated 1 minute cron downloads of the speed test file legitimately violated the policies of the owners of the speed test file and thus they have sent in an abuse report to ColoCrossing stating that shovenose was participating in a DoS attack against them.

    TLDR: The owners of the speed test file that shovenose set a cron to download on did not warrant shovenose to perform the action, therefore it is legally considered a DoS attack. If anyone here would like, I could ask CC to provide us with the report.

  • GreenValueHost said: therefore it is legally considered a DoS attack. If anyone here would like, I could ask CC to provide us with the report.

    no, it really isn't. one thread pulling the same speedtest file in succession? dick move, yes, DoS, no

  • ksubediksubedi Member
    edited January 2014

    Thats the dumbest thing i have read all day, any provider would kick you for doing that. Thats just wasting resources. If you had used your bandwidth for something useful and they had terminated your vps, that would have been a different story.

  • @texteditor said:
    no, it really isn't. one thread pulling the same speedtest file in succession? dick move, yes, DoS, no

    No, it's considered a DoS.

  • Mark_RMark_R Member
    edited January 2014

    @GreenValueHost said:
    No, it's considered a DoS.

    This really makes me doubt your knowledge.
    if shovenose really did execute a DoS attack it would be a realtime data output.. not a 1 minute interval wget/speedtest command.

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  • @GreenValueHost said:
    No, it's considered a DoS.

    No. It's not.

  • @GreenValueHost said:
    No, it's considered a DoS.

    No it's not legally a DoS, and no judge would get shove in legal trouble after listening to you be a pedant over your own definition of the term.

  • Regardless of differencing opinions here, what really matters here is that ColoCrossing AND the owner of the server he was downloading the file from constantly considered it a DoS attack and demanded for him to be terminated.

This discussion has been closed.