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As a user I think every provider deserves and equal opportunity to promote services.
Please can we also stop announcement threads from admins about preferred hosts giving out prizes to become more popular?
If I want a mousepad I’ll go on Amazon and buy one
I use this forum as a resource to get the best web services and deals possible and although it’s nice for providers to give back I do not think they should get preferential treatment for doing so
Every provider pays for a provider tag so everyone should be treated the same
Oh boy this is a huge change. So no more megathread fun this year I guess?
Anyway in my opinion spams are bad but this is a tough task for the staff with the scale of this forum. Keep up the good work!
you've got balls I'll give it to ya.
now how long more before any intervention is what i wonder
$pam is not spam
Yeah I explicitly don't participate in those because the potential is clear.
Instead of using the forum for this, providers could add a “comment/note” section on their order page where users can submit such requests.
This is abuse of moderating power especially when you trigger people with snide comments like this and then give them severe warning for their reply.
Just to clarify, are you saying I am using multiple accounts?
Guys, why are you actively seeking to keep spams on? That’s it, no more bogus shit! You submit offer without crap. The streets are clean from now on.
No regrets, no “grace periods”, no remorse. Crackdown and purge by fire.
And why do you think they do that? It's for the free bump a.k.a. more sales for your offer
I suggest a special forum feature (eg. post your order for freebie!) in the original post for this (post order number for ___), similar to the "Thank" feature, and providers getting a special PM for that to act upon. THis way the thread will not be "polluted". I also think it should come with the free BUMP once any user using that special feature, as a kind gesture for the provider.
In a somewhat related note, i am slightly curious as to what all the providers do now that their sale threads have abruptly ended and their advertised mechanism to take advantage of the sales has suddenly been cut off.
I suppose that's a them problem now and the best people can do now is to take their requests to direct messages their deals fulfilled. It comes at a relief to me that the provider I bought from picked up my doubling request in the last wave before the crackdown. It does put a pause on some purchasing though as there is now a mystery as to what providers will still fulfill the originally advertised deals and how they will do it ...
I believe providers must be the exclusive stakeholders in a discussion that decides new ideas for the offers category.
There are very obvious solutions in terms of ideas, which are gonna be repeated. But, imho, LET staff needs to discuss with providers to find out what works for them as well.
Once all that's done, I would really find it helpful if there was a detailed list of rules that explains what's considered spam and what's not. Pretty sure some of our old posts will be taken as examples, but, a written set of rules in collaboration with the providers who do a lot for this community in terms of offers and otherwise, would be highly appreciated.
Basically this. Since the providers do pay for their tag and to post offers; to some providers, it may feel like robbing them off of what they should receive against the tag.
The execution of this rule was probably the worst way possible. Without any notice, without any prior discussion.... it was executed. Then some post came to "show balls" giving links for closing and to show balls, those threads (including ongoing giveaways/contest) has been closed.
Share ideas.... This should have been the default modus operandi for introducing such restrictions instead of going hell on every threads that are mentioned here.
But that would stop their main sponsor 🤣
🥎⚽⚾🏀🏈🏉
This guy just needs to make 100 more comments to win a price 🤣
I've read a lot of hot takes and "Why doesn't the forum software behave in [this manner] or why doesn't someone just [a request that'd require rewriting half of Vanilla's code]..."
Vanillas as a forum software is pretty bad. It's severely limited. No one is going to write custom mods for it for LowEndTalk or pay to have such work completed. Every year the team needs a gentle reminder to update the copyright date in the footer, something that is literally
echo date("Y");in PHP to show the current year.I highly doubt anyone is going to write custom tools for Vanilla to behave in any useful fashion towards this. (And furthermore, I doubt the top will support any decision that will take away useful metrics that contribute to his ad sales like page impressions and comment counts, as useless as those metrics may actually be since it's just some cheap charlie hitting F5 and copy/pasting some dumb quote to enter to win a prize...)
My predictions:
OR
Basically, nothing will happen if it means making buying advertising less attractive or hurts the bottom line.
LowEndTalk isn't a community and hasn't been for a long time. It's a commercial marketplace for providers to try to get a few dollars from it's audience and it sometimes has some good, non-commercial threads here and there.
Just my $0.02
Rule: No Artificial Thread Bumps in Offer Posts
Posts made to market a provider’s services must not include requests, incentives, or requirements for users to reply to the thread in ways that artificially keep it at the top of the forum. This includes, but is not limited to:
Asking users to post order numbers, confirmations, or any similar information.
Offering rewards, upgrades, discounts, or other incentives contingent upon users replying to the thread.
Replies to offer threads should contribute meaningful and relevant content that benefits the broader community. Providers found to be encouraging or facilitating artificial bumps, directly or indirectly, will have their posts moderated or removed, and may face additional penalties.
Realistically not possible unless there's dedicated paid staff for supervision.
That could be said of virtually every rule the forum already has.
"Mods asleep promo!"'
I'm claiming it.
I think some sales thread like "mention your order number to get dobule bandwidth" should be allowed for certain days/months from the day they are started. Since last 6-8 months there have been new hosting providers who started the thread, and for LET users like me such sales threads can shed some light on how much popular a deal or a provider is among LET users, what people are buying, what are they avoiding, how reliable is the machine, etc. Unless that (without such Sales-threads) its bit hard to find out from mere 100-150 comments in a thread to know about a hosting provider!
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/202026/double-ram-cloud-vps-1c1g-7-year-asia-europe-us#latest
there still many comment your order for get double ram
still, merry xmas
Any TL;DR?
when u know tell me.
no idea what is happening
Having people post for bonus or freebie or anything. All spam junk BS.
LES doesn’t allow this. It works well. Let’s use what works. Just being honest.
Also recommend a “Report Provider” section. If too many complaints from bad providers from veteran members - ban them. Make this a more reliable forum where spam doesn’t bury the truth for those who don’t know how to search outside of Google.
Next generation will say “what’s Google search? Oh you mean AI it?”
Yep, that is all this is about.
How about create another section (not public), for offers with double whatnot and spamming whatnot?
This way the "public offers" section stays clean to the outside public, while the providers can get their bumping through offering something to the community in a "private offers" section.
I agree that reviews or just general information about and experiences members have had with providers could (and maybe should) take a more visible spot. I feel that this is an unoccupied niche - when the offer threads are prominent and have thousands of replies, it gives them validity. I thought the investigation when MassiveGRID made their offer was great, to give an example.
Maybe make it so that threads in the offers category do not receive bumps at all, thus removing all spam incentives? If they want to go back up - create a new offer, require at least 1 new product per new thread? Sell bumps or stickies?
But honestly this is probably too much of a rethink of what LET is, who knows.
If you need to spam, let it be via PM. That way you as a customer will receive benefits and from provider side - he will successfully dox you. Win-win.
The rule was enabled. That's it. Done. Now what will happen:
In the mean time I will pour few drops of The Dalmore Reserve and celebrate. Good year to come.
P.S. This abomination: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/202026/double-ram-cloud-vps-1c1g-7-year-asia-europe-us/p45 was banned on OGF. Why he roams here?