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We want to reduce the spam in the offers category - share your ideas!

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  • TrKTrK Member

    @Levi said: Why he roams here?

    Cause it's LET and not OGF......

  • https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4277926/#Comment_4277926
    Now we just need every provider to follow this :D Thanks @kuroit :D

  • kuroitkuroit Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @malignify said:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4277926/#Comment_4277926
    Now we just need every provider to follow this :D Thanks @kuroit :D

    Hahaha, I'm in! ;)

    Thanked by 1sh97
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited January 2025

    Simple fact is, the “post your order number for a free upgrade” trash is spammy and buries conversations under piles of database inflating data of lower quality than everything ever posted to TikTok. Increased overhead for LET over time and LET nets zero revenue from it I guarantee it. Run a while loop to perform database writes on the most read tables and see how fast your overhead increases…

    Ain’t one provider dropping their subscription over banning it. The way you bill for ads isn’t going to scale your revenue with this traffic and changing that could actually rock the boat with the people renting the spots for them.

    Don’t even get me started on how it discourages organic engagement from new visitors who might find their way to one of these threads in a search. Maybe they're looking for some reviews of the provider in the comments and instead their first impression of LET is trashed.

    I only see upsides to banning the behavior.

  • tjntjn Member

    But we love free upgrades...

    Thanked by 1Beniskickbutt
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
  • sh97sh97 Member, Host Rep
  • tjntjn Member

    The end is nigh

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    well cum

    bang alone , bang adore

    bang la desh

  • @emgh said:

    well cum

    bang alone , bang adore

    bang la desh

    heres the spam, stop it.

    Thanked by 2jsg Beniskickbutt
  • @ehab said:

    @COLBYLICIOUS said:
    Any TL;DR?

    when u know tell me.
    no idea what is happening

    then stop spaming useless stuff.

    Thanked by 1jsg
  • @ascicode said:
    then stop spaming useless stuff.

  • @tjn said:
    But we love free upgrades...

    We prefer great deals without the need to circlejerk in the thread.
    Nothing is free, good deal is a good deal. It's like a 2GB memory offer vs a 1GB memory offer with the option to request another GB in the thread :P

    I wonder how many people use burner accounts for those "free" add-on requests because they don't want to expose their forum identity to hosts who have their real name on file.

    Thanked by 2Carlin0 hyperblast
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @MannDude said:
    The rules are strictly enforced, none of these dumb pointless bump, post invoice, copy/paste this stupid quote type threads... And to compensate for the drop in page views and other metrics used to sell ads, they'll just charge providers to have an offer thread made sticky like WebHostingTalk does... 1 day, 3 day, 1 week intervals. Of course, we all know who'll have the top spot for that.

    Reader can dismiss a sticky'd thread.
    I don't have the rules, the AIO, and the Gleam threads on top of my screen.

    Thanked by 2fredo1664 hobofl
  • TrKTrK Member

    Rules are subjective.........

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @ascicode said:

    @emgh said:

    well cum

    bang alone , bang adore

    bang la desh

    heres the spam, stop it.

    you stop it

  • @TrK said:
    Rules are subjective.........

    Agreed. Even among moderators there may be disagreement.

    Thanked by 1Beniskickbutt
  • skorupionskorupion Member, Host Rep

    Did @Arkas just make a bunch of money on some meme coins and then buy LET out? I have no other plausible explanation [maybe other than LET losing the numbers game]

  • @ascicode said:

    @Flash said:

    @Carlin0 said:
    In my opinion to reduce spam in an offer should be limited to one post per user

    January madness.

    Your the next leaving for spam.

    Are you against a free speech?

  • @skorupion said:
    Did @Arkas just make a bunch of money on some meme coins and then buy LET out? I have no other plausible explanation [maybe other than LET losing the numbers game]

    List few pages back, you will see JB involvement and confirmation about crackdown on spam. Arkas is moderator, the tool, the hammer, das bomb, a blue wale inside orca body.

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @Levi said: In the mean time I will pour few drops of The Dalmore Reserve and celebrate. Good year to come.

    Respect, :+1:, that is a really good one.

    @Arkas

    Since this Thread is for the community, might wanna make it visible only to registered users? ( logged in ).

    Thanked by 1admax
  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited January 2025

    @noob404 said:
    I believe providers must be the exclusive stakeholders in a discussion that decides new ideas for the offers category.
    [Rest not even read]

    Dead wrong + BS - Evidence: potential customers are what providers even pay for to reach, or in other words, LET, like any community, is based on us, the users, plus here on LET also buyers ~ source of income.


    A bit over a year ago I made a thread on basically the same topic as this thread.

    And the major takeaway in said thread was this: If ONE provider does it, basically ALL providers have to make a choice: either do it as well or see your thread sink quickly to a major degree due to "empty bumps" by said one provider.

    Or in other words It's basically like a fast spreading virus that has infected LET.

    Please also note that many providers do NOT WANT to play that game but, as stated, are forced to once the purple one does it!

    And yes, I name him, call him out, the driving force behind that viral and community destroying BS game is big purple RackNerd.
    Now, before RackNerd fans shout and bite, let me make it perfectly clear that I'm not a RackNerd hater. In fact, I just recently purchased a RN VPS, benchmarked it and published a quite positive review. What I strongly oppose is not RackNerd per se but rather the way they act on the "marketplace" plus what seemed to be a very powerful shield around them including even what many perceive as advertisements on the shield ...

    I do like my RackNerd VPS, it's a quite nice thingy for an attractive price; chances are that I'll renew and keep it. That is, I do value their products and (some of) their promos.

    But that also means WHY, FUCKING WHY those destructive and community infesting bump games? They have decent products at decent and competitive prices and they have lots and lots of fans - so, no need for recklessly bumping and pumping! Yet they do it anyway - although after multiple threads they certainly know how negative and destructive their maneuvers are.

    @jbiloh you know I like and value you, a lot. But I feel that either the shield/carte blanche for RackNerd is your priority -or- LET, the community and thousands upon thousands of us users are the priority. And it seems LET is reaching the point of requiring you to make up your mind and a decision.

    I want to see good deals here, I want to see real communication between providers and users/(potential) customers, I also want to sometimes see pure giggling fun like e.g. the RatNerd thread from her majesty bitch @Saragoldfarb, and even some giggling and nonsense in the threads, but not ping-pong series of irrelevant content free comments (hello, @emgh).

    IF you or we want "double your bandwidth" trickery that's OK with me, but then invest in some mechanism that keeps the threads clean and the competition fair, maybe something (technically) in between "thanks" clicks and flagging that is, a way for users to click on some link to get a popup window to type e.g. their order number into and have the results end up e.g. in the providers mail box. Hell, you even can ask the providers who want that to pay for it to keep your costs low.

    But whichever way you choose, make sure that a single black sheep provider can't ruin LET over time.

    When I open a promo thread I want to see deals, info, and some real user feedback - and not pages and pages of content-free BS like order numbers!

    And again, keep in mind: Many (most?) providers do not even want that BS.

  • zedzed Member

    @emgh said:

    @ascicode said:

    @emgh said:

    well cum

    bang alone , bang adore

    bang la desh

    heres the spam, stop it.

    you stop it

    For real, sometimes you post things worth reading (to me) but recently you and a couple other (normally intelligent) posters have been doing this stupid u no u shit in every fucking thread and it's really just making the environment worse. Why? The forum is already borderline useless, why make it worse? Please stop.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @zed said:

    @emgh said:

    @ascicode said:

    @emgh said:

    well cum

    bang alone , bang adore

    bang la desh

    heres the spam, stop it.

    you stop it

    For real, sometimes you post things worth reading (to me) but recently you and a couple other (normally intelligent) posters have been doing this stupid u no u shit in every fucking thread and it's really just making the environment worse. Why? The forum is already borderline useless, why make it worse? Please stop.

    tl;dr?

  • @jsg said:

    @noob404 said:
    I believe providers must be the exclusive stakeholders in a discussion that decides new ideas for the offers category.
    [Rest not even read]

    Dead wrong + BS - Evidence: potential customers are what providers even pay for to reach, or in other words, LET, like any community, is based on us, the users, plus here on LET also buyers ~ source of income.


    A bit over a year ago I made a thread on basically the same topic as this thread.

    And the major takeaway in said thread was this: If ONE provider does it, basically ALL providers have to make a choice: either do it as well or see your thread sink quickly to a major degree due to "empty bumps" by said one provider.

    Or in other words It's basically like a fast spreading virus that has infected LET.

    Please also note that many providers do NOT WANT to play that game but, as stated, are forced to once the purple one does it!

    And yes, I name him, call him out, the driving force behind that viral and community destroying BS game is big purple RackNerd.
    Now, before RackNerd fans shout and bite, let me make it perfectly clear that I'm not a RackNerd hater. In fact, I just recently purchased a RN VPS, benchmarked it and published a quite positive review. What I strongly oppose is not RackNerd per se but rather the way they act on the "marketplace" plus what seemed to be a very powerful shield around them including even what many perceive as advertisements on the shield ...

    I do like my RackNerd VPS, it's a quite nice thingy for an attractive price; chances are that I'll renew and keep it. That is, I do value their products and (some of) their promos.

    But that also means WHY, FUCKING WHY those destructive and community infesting bump games? They have decent products at decent and competitive prices and they have lots and lots of fans - so, no need for recklessly bumping and pumping! Yet they do it anyway - although after multiple threads they certainly know how negative and destructive their maneuvers are.

    @jbiloh you know I like and value you, a lot. But I feel that either the shield/carte blanche for RackNerd is your priority -or- LET, the community and thousands upon thousands of us users are the priority. And it seems LET is reaching the point of requiring you to make up your mind and a decision.

    I want to see good deals here, I want to see real communication between providers and users/(potential) customers, I also want to sometimes see pure giggling fun like e.g. the RatNerd thread from her majesty bitch @Saragoldfarb, and even some giggling and nonsense in the threads, but not ping-pong series of irrelevant content free comments (hello, @emgh).

    IF you or we want "double your bandwidth" trickery that's OK with me, but then invest in some mechanism that keeps the threads clean and the competition fair, maybe something (technically) in between "thanks" clicks and flagging that is, a way for users to click on some link to get a popup window to type e.g. their order number into and have the results end up e.g. in the providers mail box. Hell, you even can ask the providers who want that to pay for it to keep your costs low.

    But whichever way you choose, make sure that a single black sheep provider can't ruin LET over time.

    When I open a promo thread I want to see deals, info, and some real user feedback - and not pages and pages of content-free BS like order numbers!

    And again, keep in mind: Many (most?) providers do not even want that BS.

    I didn't read your comment in full, mainly cause my intention is not to argue. I don't mean to say, as customers, we shouldn't have a say. Shoulda read my comment in full, as well. I just meant that as offer and giveaway providers, these providers should be the major stakeholders when making the decision on how to continue with these giveaways and offers. So, before making a thread or taking extreme measures, they should have been brought into the decision instead of makeshift measures every year. In a nutshell, I am all for set rules on what to post and what not to. But, maybe a staff-level decision with the providers as stakeholders should be reached ASAP and then set-rules must be posted on a standalone thread for everyone to follow.

    I am not sure if you get my point. Regardless, I am not gonna comment on this topic anymore. Good luck to you.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited January 2025

    hot take: some people should quit LET and start a career in academia

  • @emgh said:
    hot take: some people should quit LET and start a career in academy

    if @FAT32 quits LET maybe he'll get married and have children soon.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @noob404 said:
    I didn't read your comment in full, mainly cause my intention is not to argue. I don't mean to say, as customers, we shouldn't have a say. Shoulda read my comment in full, as well. I just meant that as offer and giveaway providers, these providers should be the major stakeholders when making the decision on how to continue with these giveaways and offers. So, before making a thread or taking extreme measures, they should have been brought into the decision instead of makeshift measures every year. In a nutshell, I am all for set rules on what to post and what not to. But, maybe a staff-level decision with the providers as stakeholders should be reached ASAP and then set-rules must be posted on a standalone thread for everyone to follow.

    I am not sure if you get my point. Regardless, I am not gonna comment on this topic anymore. Good luck to you.

    We already did have that discussion, multiple times. Re. my thread the TL;DR of what the providers felt was "we don't like it but once someone starts it we are pretty much left with no other option than doing it as well".

  • @jsg said:

    @noob404 said:
    I didn't read your comment in full, mainly cause my intention is not to argue. I don't mean to say, as customers, we shouldn't have a say. Shoulda read my comment in full, as well. I just meant that as offer and giveaway providers, these providers should be the major stakeholders when making the decision on how to continue with these giveaways and offers. So, before making a thread or taking extreme measures, they should have been brought into the decision instead of makeshift measures every year. In a nutshell, I am all for set rules on what to post and what not to. But, maybe a staff-level decision with the providers as stakeholders should be reached ASAP and then set-rules must be posted on a standalone thread for everyone to follow.

    I am not sure if you get my point. Regardless, I am not gonna comment on this topic anymore. Good luck to you.

    We already did have that discussion, multiple times. Re. my thread the TL;DR of what the providers felt was "we don't like it but once someone starts it we are pretty much left with no other option than doing it as well".

    We both seem to pointing at the same direction. I dunno if you see it. That's all I have been saying as well. Since you have had "that discussion, multiple times," it is time for the staff and the providers to first sit together and make a final decision once and for all.
    The certainty and clarity it provides, imo, will be beneficial for the providers, the members and the forum as a whole.

This discussion has been closed.