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Path.net Drama 2.0 - 5 or more Exchanges suspend them for unpaid bills.

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  • SillyGooseSillyGoose Member

    @apollo15 said:
    price is cheap, much much cheaper that competitors. Thats why everyone is/was using them

    you get what you pay for.

    1000$ is very cheap for 1Gbps.

  • wdmgwdmg Member, LIR
    edited March 19

    @SillyGoose said:

    @apollo15 said:
    price is cheap, much much cheaper that competitors. Thats why everyone is/was using them

    you get what you pay for.

    1000$ is very cheap for 1Gbps.

    Not really, considering you can grab 10 on 100 on GTT for example for about $700/mo.

    And no, 100G equipment isn’t expensive, it’s actually dirt cheap these days.

  • kaitkait Member

    @wdmg said: Not really, considering you can grab 10 on 100 on GTT for example for about $700/mo.

    And no, 100G equipment isn’t expensive, it’s actually dirt cheap these days.

    SillyGoose forgot the /s

  • packetnextpacketnext Member

    @apollo15 said:
    price is cheap, much much cheaper that competitors. Thats why everyone is/was using them

    you get what you pay for.

    It's like Pepsi and Coca-cola. In the end, Path will probably be taken over by GTT or so.

  • SirFoxySirFoxy Member

    @dosai said:
    Where is @SirFoxy on this?

    Too much incel energy. I said fuck Path before it was cool to say fuck Path.

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  • emghemgh Member

    @SirFoxy said:

    @dosai said:
    Where is @SirFoxy on this?

    Too much incel energy. I said fuck Path before it was cool to say fuck Path.

    xD

  • SillyGooseSillyGoose Member

    @SirFoxy said:

    @dosai said:
    Where is @SirFoxy on this?

    Too much incel energy. I said fuck Path before it was cool to say fuck Path.

    Sir, I'm sending my lawyers

  • babuumbabuum Member
    edited March 21

    @byteangel said: However, aren't they using a GRE tunnel to peer with the path? Their traffic could go over another upstream provider without DE-CIX, resulting in higher latency for sure. But I don't understand why there would be an organized mob against their link going down. After all, no ISP or DDoS protection company that I've seen guarantees that your traffic will always go in a certain direction or through an IX. Who am I to know? If their customer is here, they can shed some light on what is in the contract about this clause.

    No they weren't using a GRE tunnel they had a peering session with PATH over DE-CIX. It doesn't matter if it's a cross-connect or an IX they just shut down their session and then shrugged.

  • stefemanstefeman Member

    More drama. Path is dumping their ip ranges for cash.. Even if its currently deployed to existing customers.

    Let me present you the biggest cuckolding of hosting industry.

    Regardless if they are selling them, or running a subnet ponzi scheme with their customers, by deploying old customer's stuff to new customers, its a shitshow.

    TL:DR

    Path.net apparently unloaded some IPs under an existing client in order to sell them and gave them basically no notice.

    It's a fire sale boys.

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  • MannDudeMannDude Host Rep, Veteran
    edited March 22

    IPs yanked from @Ian_Dot_Tech right? Were they in use with active customers on it before they got pulled? Have the subnets already been reassigned to a new owner/user?

  • stefemanstefeman Member

    @MannDude said:
    IPs yanked from @Ian_Dot_Tech right? Were they in use with active customers on it before they got pulled? Have the subnets already been reassigned to a new owner/user?

    https://status.leveloneservers.com/incidents/dztqmbrlwlnm

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  • emghemgh Member

    @stefeman said:

    @MannDude said:
    IPs yanked from @Ian_Dot_Tech right? Were they in use with active customers on it before they got pulled? Have the subnets already been reassigned to a new owner/user?

    https://status.leveloneservers.com/incidents/dztqmbrlwlnm

    Begs the question, why aren’t providers running away? Absolutely crazy.

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  • NoNoisyNeighbourNoNoisyNeighbour Member

    @emgh said:

    @stefeman said:

    @MannDude said:
    IPs yanked from @Ian_Dot_Tech right? Were they in use with active customers on it before they got pulled? Have the subnets already been reassigned to a new owner/user?

    https://status.leveloneservers.com/incidents/dztqmbrlwlnm

    Begs the question, why aren’t providers running away? Absolutely crazy.

    I don’t think there is currently anything comparable, where providers can easily switch to

  • emghemgh Member

    @NoNoisyNeighbour said:

    @emgh said:

    @stefeman said:

    @MannDude said:
    IPs yanked from @Ian_Dot_Tech right? Were they in use with active customers on it before they got pulled? Have the subnets already been reassigned to a new owner/user?

    https://status.leveloneservers.com/incidents/dztqmbrlwlnm

    Begs the question, why aren’t providers running away? Absolutely crazy.

    I don’t think there is currently anything comparable, where providers can easily switch to

    CosmicGuard?

  • kaitkait Member

    @emgh said: CosmicGuard?

    From what i've heard their support isn't as great and their API is also a bit lacking and the protection isn't as great but still super good as Paths. Its a good alternative but probably not a full Path replacement yet.

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  • emghemgh Member
    edited March 22

    @kait said:

    @emgh said: CosmicGuard?

    From what i've heard their support isn't as great and their API is also a bit lacking and the protection isn't as great but still super good as Paths. Its a good alternative but probably not a full Path replacement yet.

    Them not being Path might make up for it xD

  • kaitkait Member
    edited March 22

    @emgh said: Them not being Path might make up for it xD

    Oh yeah, 100%. I need to do a lot of programming but I hope to have something simple running next year as well.

    ps. I am always open to collaborate with others.

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  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

  • Ian_Dot_TechIan_Dot_Tech Member, Patron Provider

    Hello,
    I have always tried to be honest with clients and not lead anyone on by giving false information. Let me clarify and address some issues that have arisen this past week regarding Path.net and LevelOneServers.com. On Tuesday (3-19-2024) 2x /24's went offline as they were being reclaimed by Path. At the time this was a shock to us as we had no knowledge that Path had terminated our service with them. However, upon speaking with Path it seems a singular email was sent out giving us 3 weeks notice, which I missed and that is my fault! Luckily for us, Path understood the confusion we had and gave us the subnets back so we could migrate our clients over a week.

    This will be my only comment on the matter. Regardless of the drama people have with Path, missing the email was strictly my fault and Path was very nice to allow us to have more time on the subnets.

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  • rabiex47rabiex47 Member
    edited March 22

    @Ian_Dot_Tech said: Path understood the confusion we had and gave us the subnets back so we could migrate our clients over a week.

    So to clarify, Path terminated the contract without your prior consent? Thus you're planning to move to a new IP broker?

  • stefemanstefeman Member

    Well, I did say it was the biggest cuckolding in the industry.

  • D3VSOFTD3VSOFT Member

    @stefeman said: The original email by "Lee field" to DE-CIX was apparently phising attempt to get DE-CIX to respond whats the issue. This info was naturally not supposed to go to outsiders, but it did cause Treemonkash/Tinyweasel (or whatever his name is) seemingly crafted such message which fooled the DE-CIX people.

    I had nothing to do with it, and I'm not Tinyweasel. Stop spreading lies.

    Treesmokah.

  • stefemanstefeman Member

    @D3VSOFT said:

    @stefeman said: The original email by "Lee field" to DE-CIX was apparently phising attempt to get DE-CIX to respond whats the issue. This info was naturally not supposed to go to outsiders, but it did cause Treemonkash/Tinyweasel (or whatever his name is) seemingly crafted such message which fooled the DE-CIX people.

    I had nothing to do with it, and I'm not Tinyweasel. Stop spreading lies.

    Treesmokah.

    I wonder who Lee Field is then.

  • kaitkait Member

    @stefeman said: I wonder who Lee Field is then.

    Not Lee Stubbs.

  • bjobjo Member

    In collaboration with Cogent, Path provides now scenic routing through the world for all packets (here to a box at @labze ):

      3.|-- gw-pfalzconnect-c.intersa  0.0%    10    5.3   5.3   5.3   5.3   0.0
  4.|-- te0-2-1-5.201.agr21.fra06  0.0%    10    5.9   5.9   5.9   6.0   0.0
  5.|-- be4516.rcr31.fra06.atlas.  0.0%    10    6.4   6.4   6.2   6.4   0.1
  6.|-- be3732.ccr41.fra03.atlas.  0.0%    10    6.2   6.2   6.0   6.6   0.2
  7.|-- be2799.ccr41.par01.atlas.  0.0%    10   15.4  15.7  15.3  17.5   0.7
  8.|-- be3627.ccr41.jfk02.atlas.  0.0%    10   86.2  86.2  86.2  86.4   0.1
  9.|-- be3495.ccr31.jfk10.atlas.  0.0%    10   86.1  87.3  86.0  90.8   1.7
 10.|-- pccw.jfk01.atlas.cogentco  0.0%    10   86.3  86.2  86.2  86.4   0.1
 11.|-- ???                       100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
 12.|-- ???                       100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
 13.|-- ???                       100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
 14.|-- ???                       100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
 15.|-- fra11.cc1.as48314.net      0.0%    10   87.5 108.9  87.5 157.3  25.6
 16.|-- 193.142.40.1               0.0%    10   86.2  92.1  85.9 146.0  19.0
 17.|-- fra1.mx240.as48314.net     0.0%    10   86.2  87.1  85.9  95.5   3.0
 18.|-- backup.somedomain.org      0.0%    10   90.1 107.9  86.1 180.4  34.0
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  • labzelabze Member, Patron Provider

    @bjo said:
    In collaboration with Cogent, Path provides now scenic routing through the world for all packets (here to a box at @labze ):

    3.|-- gw-pfalzconnect-c.intersa 0.0% 10 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.3 0.0
    4.|-- te0-2-1-5.201.agr21.fra06 0.0% 10 5.9 5.9 5.9 6.0 0.0
    5.|-- be4516.rcr31.fra06.atlas. 0.0% 10 6.4 6.4 6.2 6.4 0.1
    6.|-- be3732.ccr41.fra03.atlas. 0.0% 10 6.2 6.2 6.0 6.6 0.2
    7.|-- be2799.ccr41.par01.atlas. 0.0% 10 15.4 15.7 15.3 17.5 0.7
    8.|-- be3627.ccr41.jfk02.atlas. 0.0% 10 86.2 86.2 86.2 86.4 0.1
    9.|-- be3495.ccr31.jfk10.atlas. 0.0% 10 86.1 87.3 86.0 90.8 1.7
    10.|-- pccw.jfk01.atlas.cogentco 0.0% 10 86.3 86.2 86.2 86.4 0.1
    11.|-- ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    12.|-- ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    13.|-- ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    14.|-- ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    15.|-- fra11.cc1.as48314.net 0.0% 10 87.5 108.9 87.5 157.3 25.6
    16.|-- 193.142.40.1 0.0% 10 86.2 92.1 85.9 146.0 19.0
    17.|-- fra1.mx240.as48314.net 0.0% 10 86.2 87.1 85.9 95.5 3.0
    18.|-- backup.somedomain.org 0.0% 10 90.1 107.9 86.1 180.4 34.0

    Gotta appreciate the free world-tour!

    /s

    Hopefully the change to Auralogic will soon be fully implemented.

    Thanked by 5sillycat bjo jh_aurologic Porlam Dante
  • stefemanstefeman Member

    Another leak in that ArmoredVM discord.

    From user: path.netisshit_49810 ID: 1223041333292433408

    Late payments to Internet Association of Australia dated in 2023 september.

    https://file.io/v5k4Vzq6VVkb

    I would assume with common sense, that they have paid this already since its still online.

  • PacketsDecreaserPacketsDecreaser Member, Patron Provider

    @stefeman said:
    Another leak in that ArmoredVM discord.

    From user: path.netisshit_49810 ID: 1223041333292433408

    Late payments to Internet Association of Australia dated in 2023 september.

    https://file.io/v5k4Vzq6VVkb

    I would assume with common sense, that they have paid this already since its still online.

    Already deleted

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  • mikewazarmikewazar Member

    That didn't last long...

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