New on LowEndTalk? Please Register and read our Community Rules.
All new Registrations are manually reviewed and approved, so a short delay after registration may occur before your account becomes active.
All new Registrations are manually reviewed and approved, so a short delay after registration may occur before your account becomes active.
Comments
You're assuming they were paid in full here. There's a good chance that they're owed past dues as well and so they might as well pull it to try to recoup. If the range is working, it's because it's still getting announced by Dedipath's routers, not because of anything on IPXO's end.
IPXO will send out C&D's to those upstreams soon to pull those announcements too. If you can get your data, do it now.
The only vendors/people that probably got paid on time are ones that are strict with their billing days and don't give grace periods. Licenses that get automatically suspended, some dedicated server providers if they were just leasing, etc.
Every vendor is now aware that it's very unlikely they're going to see another dime.
I know i'm coming off cold, but i'm hoping people work quickly to get their data/hardware out of there before it ends tied up in a lawsuit from whomever Dedipath was leasing hardware from (datasales, etc).
Don't get me wrong, I feel terrible for all of you, but after the "configuration error" or whatever they claimed back in June, it seems only @EthernetServers & @HostEONS had the spidey sense to get the fuck outta dodge. I know @HostEONs is a fossil in the hosting industry, so hes seen this more times than he can count i'm sure.
Francisco
Some of the price match quotes have blown me away. I can't even counter-quote, it's just too far off reality. I personally had no idea they were that... aggressively priced.
Says a lot when the people selling a yearly for $8.69 can't price match you.
You know what the wildest part of what I listed was? Dedipath owns basically no IP space. They have a handful of 4.10 space, that's it. Those IP's were 100% leased.
I think they used to get a ton of IP's from INAP, but once INAP->Evocative, it looks like they renumbered into IPXO space that is billed at fair market rates.
Francisco
Yup I think a few of us called it when this happen back then. You don't just break the router in multiple locations and take everything down. This was clearly they most likely owed bills to the data centers for months and they finally cut them off. Causing the outage then finally them shutting down.
My guess is datasales or another company is going to be going after to get the equipment when legal gets involved in this it's going to be a real nightmare.
dedipath.com completely offline now
Don't feel for anyone once all the lawyers get involved. Good luck to everyone scrambling to get out before that happens.
We seen this with a few of the colocation quotes. Like sure we could maybe match some if we didn't want to profit a penny. Typically providers will give out these killer deals because they either committed to more space than they can take and are bleeding already or they got some stupid deals and then prices went up.
Well, I received one offer that matches the below price.
Same RAM, but IPv6 only and 60% diks, in Singapore.
That needed quotes, I can think of a few better terms for their pricing š
There is a reason they went out. I'm all for helping, but as Francisco said earlier, I'm not going outta business in 6 months to do it (paraphrased).
Their pricing was brainwashed in some, not all, some instances. And its unrealistic to expect good providers to bend over backwords because X company made some silly mistakes on pricing.
Big question I asked one person who gawked, "do you want us to still be here hosting your data in a year, or do you want to do this all over again a year from now?".
There we go š
Other than my main website and the Seafile server, I'll gladly take an unsustainable deal because most of my applications are fully redundant that I can easily redeploy to another unsustainable deal.
To each his own I guess š¤·āāļø I've been in business for 22 years and that's not how I do any deal for my own sanity. To each his own I guess.
Don't let him fool you, he only pays in videos of no-handed pushups.
Yet...
Oh it's coming, it's coming.... Not sure if it'll be /28's, but /27's at least.
Francisco
Sucks to see this happen. I kind of liked Dedipath![:neutral: :neutral:](https://lowendtalk.com/resources/emoji/neutral.png)
While I cannot help with hosting services, I might be be able to help with claiming physical equipment out of their Vegas location. Please msg me, I might be able to spare a weekend to help since it's not too far out from me.
-Alex C
I'm building new IXP.
You can announce IPv4 /32 and IPv6 /128 only.
Other prefix sizes are filtered.
Routing table size be like ā¦
I wonder which routing table would end up bigger, v4 or v6.
Dallas suite was empty just two months ago. I think I know why and rumor has it that provider is on the downhill too.
Would be a pretty nerdy thread if @jbiloh @raindog308 etc want to split this off.
v6 has the potential if you get a lot of /48 ranges announced, but most places announce their supernet. BuyVM has a single /29 and that covers all of our DC's and then some. Many other DC's run a single /32 or even just single /48's.
Francisco
Why the fuck are we here for if not for that :P
I would bet on the v4 as the fragmentation increases and the further split of /24s would certainly kick the process into a higher gear.
As v6 is still unallocated (and would probably be so for the next 100 years or more), fragmentation is unlikely to occur at the same pace, it is like an old HDD, the fuller that it is the more fragmented that the stored data becomes.
I think Serverius runs on a /64 since they can't afford to route our v6 though a full /64 but only through an /127 creating issues with our newest routers which insist on a /64 (and rightly so).
P.S. I vote for the split, it has nothing to do with the demise of Dedipath.
Now where's the link?
Real men tunnel everything at least for the sake of isolating and encrypting if no other reason is at hand.
Sharing is caring.
I'm curious about how many providers will follow the same path as Dedipath before the year ends.
By the way, that recent 100-year plan from WordPress seems quite unusual to me: "One payment. A hundred years of legacy. $38,000."
LVNET ips (which are almost 1/3) will go down on Monday
Polyester pants are tough.
My guess is that the smaller providers that hosted with Dedipath will follow soon. They have to find new hosting that will most likely be a lot more expensive than Dedipath was and the outage causes existing customers to leave. A perfect storm.
The bigger ones on par with Dedipath just lost a price pressing competitor, so they will be just fine. They will probably gain a few new customers from the Dedipath refugees.
I wonder if someone else can match this. Also looking for NY location
Intel Xeon E5-2630L
4GB RAM
250GB HDD
4 Cores
1Gbps Unmetered Bandwidth (333TB)
10Tbps DDoS Protection
1 x IPV4
Anybody got success with getting access to their gear with Evocative yet ?
Hi, if anyone need dedicated servers or VPS either at Kansas City or San Francisco, feel free to reach out to us(https://f4.fo/). Iām also based out of the Bay Area if you need help with migration.