OVH / SYS / Kimsufi Black friday's offers are up

dodheimsgard

You can order kimsufi servers from kimsufi.com or ovh page. For me ecosetup didnt worked via kimsufi page (because I have one kimsufi) but worked via ovh page (i dont have any servers on my ovh account). Hope this will help someone save some bucks.

DBA

Note it is ECOSETUP not ecosetup. Needs to be all uppercase.

Garbo

KS-LE-1 is out of stock now, will they restock?

adns

A few experience about the network

• The upload speed on IPv4 is very weak. They promises 100 Mbps link. On IPv4 up it is very weak, usualy I can reach single and multi connection 50--60 Mbps. I didn't have better result than an unique 75 Mbps. The download better, near 950 Mbps.
• However, the IPv6 is very strong up and down!

I tested with netcup (2.5 Gbps link), Contabo (200 Mbps and a 400 Mbps instance), Oracle OCI ARM instance (near 3--4 Gbps). The usual experience is that the IPv4 upload very very weak, jumps between 30--60 Mbps. The IPv4 download usualy maximizes the link as the IPv6 up and down. So the only disappointment for me is the IPv4 upload that can't reach 100 Mbps, but the other directions compensates this weakness.

pbx

@adns said: So the only disappointment for me is the IPv4 upload that can't reach 100 Mbps, but the other directions compensates this weakness.

If you actually use ipv6 and ipv4 is used only for users with no ipv6 possibility, the limited upload speed can be enough... a reverse proxy with good ipv4 network speed is another option is you need moar speed. Decent server anyway!

adns

@pbx said:

@adns said: So the only disappointment for me is the IPv4 upload that can't reach 100 Mbps, but the other directions compensates this weakness.

If you actually use ipv6 and ipv4 is used only for users with no ipv6 possibility, the limited upload speed can be enough... a reverse proxy with good ipv4 network speed is another option is you need moar speed. Decent server anyway!

you're right, this is an unique offer. I'm thinking on use Cloudflare to serve web contents. Luckily, if I provide only the IPv6 address of origin, CF can serve IPv4 and IPv6 visitors over the origin's v6 address.

Another option might be Oracle free tier or another VPS as a proxy. For example netcup has very strong peering and OVH France is not an exception, I can reach duplex gigabit over IPv6 always. If I use a smaller VPS as a jump host (e.g. 2--3 Eur / month), I can save more money than I rent another dedi from OVH or any concurrent.
The OVH inspirates fire-hot ideas:D

ninzo59

@Garbo said:
KS-LE-1 is out of stock now, will they restock?

they will have some restock from today up to monday. just keep looking

About ECC guys its indeed an issue on our side. KS-LE-1 doesn't have ECC ram.

Sorry about this mistake,

ninzo

berkay

@ninzo59 said:

@Garbo said:
KS-LE-1 is out of stock now, will they restock?

they will have some restock from today up to monday. just keep looking

About ECC guys its indeed an issue on our side. KS-LE-1 doesn't have ECC ram.

Sorry about this mistake,

ninzo

Can we transfer VAT exemption status from old Kimsufi panel to OVHcloud?

gemini_geek

@ninzo59 said:

@Garbo said:
KS-LE-1 is out of stock now, will they restock?

they will have some restock from today up to monday. just keep looking

About ECC guys its indeed an issue on our side. KS-LE-1 doesn't have ECC ram.

Sorry about this mistake,

ninzo

Your support told me its ECC ram when i enquired regarding same, now you guys have modified in the panel to show its non ECC ram , this is my first server with OVH , wanted to run mongodb replica member, this is insane and smell almost a scam!!!

i am requesting a cancellation

Garbo

@ninzo59 said:

@Garbo said:
KS-LE-1 is out of stock now, will they restock?

they will have some restock from today up to monday. just keep looking

About ECC guys its indeed an issue on our side. KS-LE-1 doesn't have ECC ram.

Sorry about this mistake,

ninzo

I have created a KS-LE-2 order, and it shows that it is under review, but my server has not been obtained, and my tax exemption application has not been processed. Are you an employee of ovh, can you help me with it?

ldzjzy

@gemini_geek said:

@ninzo59 said:

@Garbo said:
KS-LE-1 is out of stock now, will they restock?

they will have some restock from today up to monday. just keep looking

About ECC guys its indeed an issue on our side. KS-LE-1 doesn't have ECC ram.

Sorry about this mistake,

ninzo

Your support told me its ECC ram when i enquired regarding same, now you guys have modified in the panel to show its non ECC ram , this is my first server with OVH , wanted to run mongodb replica member, this is insane and smell almost a scam!!!

i am requesting a cancellation

me too!!!But I have screenshot!!!ask for exchange ram!

gemini_geek

me too!!!But I have screenshot!!!ask for exchange ram!

i only ordered it seeing ECC ram for my mongodb replica, now without ECC its useless for me

vavn

When I bought the product, the product page showed that there was ECC memory. Now you have directly modified our configuration. I'm really worried that if you are not happy, you will change our other configurations at will. Is such a business really reliable? Can we still trust you? Is this what you call the spirit of contract?

stoned

@vavn said:
When I bought the product, the product page showed that there was ECC memory. Now you have directly modified our configuration. I'm really worried that if you are not happy, you will change our other configurations at will. Is such a business really reliable? Can we still trust you? Is this what you call the spirit of contract?

Relax. I asked them politely and they very quickly in a matter of 1 hour sent someone to change to ECC for me. Was done in 2 hours total.

LordSpock

@ninzo59 - I am currently an SYS customer, if I were to get a new machine from the SYS ECO range - can I transfer my IPs with the old rates? Can't seem to find any information on this.

drizbo

This proxmox networking is killing me. I wanna thank you @Maounique of course, but I was messing around it all night and I dont get it to work with your config.

I found another config and finally got ipv4 to work in my VMs but with all this shit and me being 0iq might be better for me to install debian and Virtualbox

If it helps anyone i'll post what works for me for ipv4. In your guest you set IP manually eg; 10.0.0.101 and gateway is your publicIP (main ip of the server). When creating VM you put it on vmbr2 network

Funnily ipv6 isn't even configured out of the box on their proxmox template, but it is on debian

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

iface eno1 inet manual

auto vmbr0
iface vmbr0 inet static
  address PublicIPV4/24
  gateway GatewayFromKimsufi(PublicIPV4.254)
  bridge-ports eno1
  bridge-stp off
  bridge-fd 0
  hwaddress xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx   //should be autoconfigured on install



# vmbr2
auto vmbr2
iface vmbr2 inet static
        address 10.0.0.1
        netmask 255.255.255.0
        bridge_ports none
        bridge_stp off
        bridge_fd 0
        post-up echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
        post-up echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/vmbr2/proxy_arp
        post-up iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/24 -o vmbr0 -j MASQUERADE
        post-down iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/24 -o vmbr0 -j MASQUERADE

gemini_geek

@vavn said:
When I bought the product, the product page showed that there was ECC memory. Now you have directly modified our configuration. I'm really worried that if you are not happy, you will change our other configurations at will. Is such a business really reliable? Can we still trust you? Is this what you call the spirit of contract?

Frankly my first impression , OVH is only good for backup of backups over IPV6, definitely not for anything which has real value , this tactic of changing the config parameters after providing the service is completely unacceptable and unethical

plumberg

For low speed issues, please enable BBR congestion control.

vavn

@stoned said:

@vavn said:
When I bought the product, the product page showed that there was ECC memory. Now you have directly modified our configuration. I'm really worried that if you are not happy, you will change our other configurations at will. Is such a business really reliable? Can we still trust you? Is this what you call the spirit of contract?

Relax. I asked them politely and they very quickly in a matter of 1 hour sent someone to change to ECC for me. Was done in 2 hours total.

Resolution comment:

Hello,

Thank you for contacting OVHcloud Technical Support.

Sorry for the trouble but this server is not offered with ECC RAM.

Please explore our Eco Bare Metal servers, if you filter your results you will find plenty of options that will meet your hardware requirements.

If you require any further assistance, do not hesitate to get in touch.

CalmDown

@vavn said:

@stoned said:

@vavn said:
When I bought the product, the product page showed that there was ECC memory. Now you have directly modified our configuration. I'm really worried that if you are not happy, you will change our other configurations at will. Is such a business really reliable? Can we still trust you? Is this what you call the spirit of contract?

Relax. I asked them politely and they very quickly in a matter of 1 hour sent someone to change to ECC for me. Was done in 2 hours total.

Resolution comment:

Hello,

Thank you for contacting OVHcloud Technical Support.

Sorry for the trouble but this server is not offered with ECC RAM.

Please explore our Eco Bare Metal servers, if you filter your results you will find plenty of options that will meet your hardware requirements.

If you require any further assistance, do not hesitate to get in touch.

Choose "Incident" and describe everything politely. You will get ECC.

drizbo

They wont swap ram to everyone, they did to the first guy. But now they have 50 tickets probably.

SteveMC

Sorry for the trouble but this server is not offered with ECC RAM

One more reason to stick with last year's KS-LE

stoned

@drizbo said:
They wont swap ram to everyone, they did to the first guy. But now they have 50 tickets probably.

Unfortunately, this. They have to change not only DIMMs but also motherboard perhaps to ensure compatibility. It's not as simple as swapping out modules.

Maounique

@drizbo said: This proxmox networking is killing me. I wanna thank you @Maounique of course, but I was messing around it all night and I dont get it to work with your config.

did you start ndppd daemon?

ndppd -d -c /etc/ndppd.conf

That is the only thing missing from my post, I tried to add it but was too late. I could give it a try to set it up for you if it is still not working.
For me IPv6 is very important and the ability to use all ports on a vm without forwarding is the thing that matters the most.

Virtualbox is heavy on CPU and this is not some beast. I know vmware player is not open source, but it is faster in same hardware and has better 3d features. If you do not setup IPv6 proxy NDP virtualbox won't work with IPv6 either, so I don't see the advantage.

Arkas

@SteveMC said: 100 Mbit/s unmetered
€14.99 ex VAT

The 100 Mbit/s is a bottleneck IMO. Also, they seem to add VAT to anyone regardless of location or If you are a company. You have to offer them the necessary proof after you order and who knows when they will credit you for the VAT. What a strange system.

drizbo

@Maounique said:

@drizbo said: This proxmox networking is killing me. I wanna thank you @Maounique of course, but I was messing around it all night and I dont get it to work with your config.

did you start ndppd daemon?

ndppd -d -c /etc/ndppd.conf

That is the only thing missing from my post, I tried to add it but was too late. I could give it a try to set it up for you if it is still not working.
For me IPv6 is very important and the ability to use all ports on a vm without forwarding is the thing that matters the most.

Virtualbox is heavy on CPU and this is not some beast. I know vmware player is not open source, but it is faster in same hardware and has better 3d features. If you do not setup IPv6 proxy NDP virtualbox won't work with IPv6 either, so I don't see the advantage.

No, I haven't. Im kind of a noob at networking. So this needs to be started ? Or does it restart? I did try rebooting a thousand times between if that would do the same thing.

Otherwise I'll try again. Thanks

Maounique

It must be started, it doesnt start on its own, you need to tell it to be daemonized with the "-d". Luckily, that is only done once.

I am sorry for missing that in my post.

If it is still not working, I am curious why, please send the configs in PM to look at those.

drizbo

Ok, thanks again. I will try a bit later.

iKeyZ

@drizbo said:
They wont swap ram to everyone, they did to the first guy. But now they have 50 tickets probably.

I've just put a ticket in as when I ordered it showed ECC, they originally denied it has ECC, but then I took a screenshot of my invoice (where it still shows 32GB ECC) and sent it to them and they've agreed to swap it out in ~10 minutes time.

Zurg

@Arkas said:

@SteveMC said: 100 Mbit/s unmetered
€14.99 ex VAT

The 100 Mbit/s is a bottleneck IMO. Also, they seem to add VAT to anyone regardless of location or If you are a company. You have to offer them the necessary proof after you order and who knows when they will credit you for the VAT. What a strange system.

At least you have the option to get VAT removed. For US, their base price is the same as EU with VAT and nowhere it shows any tax on the invoice. Of course, I asked them about it but only got silence...