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I have never heard of Russia stopping supplies for no reason. Poland stopped receiving gas from Russia because they didn't want to renew their contract. Some countries, such as Bulgaria, would not like to pay in rubles. Germany was put out of action by its own stupid actions on SP1 and SP2. Scholz with his hand on the turbine looked like a joke.
Do you think that the recent events with SP1 and SP2 are Russia's actions? Of course not, I'm sure. So just look around and find out who is interested.
Maybe the EU can get a loan from the Ukraine to buy more windmills?
Either you are:
As we've already talked about this exact issue, I suspect it's the first.
However, as you should know, the supply of gas suddenly became very "intermittent" as soon as we imposed sanctions when they were previously fine before.
A pump that was apparently faulty, and Russia blamed the delays on Siemens, who had never been asked to do maintenance work on the pump, nor had orders for replacement parts.
Weeks of 40% and then weeks of 20% supply of gas because of some unknown reasons.
A couple of weeks ago the pipeline was shut entirely (and didn't restart again) because the Russians found "an oil leak", the photo evidence of which was clearly some motor oil that had been poured onto an electrical panel.
They are all bullshit excuses, and everybody knows it.
Russia doesn't want Europe to have the gas because:
To be 100% clear, most countries in Europe wanted to continue receiving Russian gas, but you guys decided we weren't allowed it.
You were also breaking the contract for that, repeatedly, but now conveniently there's an excuse that it's not your fault.
So, there's Russia. And ummmm... Yep, there's Russia. Of course Russia blew up the pipes.
It is TDS - Trump Derangement Syndrome. He warned Germany about this, and German diplomats just laughed at him.
Since Trump said this could happen, in their TDS minds they were absolute the risk would never realize.
Germany especially is lead by emotion and ₽ (well some are just useful idiots too), not facts nor realities. Sadly, so is Finland.
Yes, and? You quoted "green boiler" but not "green Natural gas". You misinterpreted what they're saying. (The subject is the boiler, not the gas)
Finnish Alex Jones has entered the chat. Hehe
What gets burned during electrical heating? Efficiency usually correlates to cost. There's $30 heaters and $300 heaters and $3000 heaters. Years ago, you bought expensive stuff of higher quality and then the trend was cheaper stuff of lower quality. This will trigger efficiency and quality improvements.
Don't fear innovation, embrace it. Challenges like this get met and society improves for all.
lol. Alex Jones can be very amusing, and surprisingly often he is correct too (but othertimes gets it completely wrong, or for comedy's sake people don't realize the joke)
The plant producing the energy on dark windless cold winter night burns stuff. Granted at best case you get like 1:5 efficiency out of a heatpump (not so cold outside), but if the power plant is only 30% efficient, that's not a big jump -- on the best case.
But here in Finland, you often go well below the efficiency range of a heatpump during winters, people have literally frozen over outside units etc. You absolutely need a backup. Heatpumps are brilliant when the conditions are right, but they are not always, sometimes i hear they are worse than direct electrical heating, ie. even less efficiency because it's so cold outside, and the outside unit has to be thawn out.
Things are getting better year over year, but they are not the magic be-all everything in one solution.
I see industrial scale for those + district heating as better option. Use the waste heat left over from electricity generation to be your starting temp.
District heating is not expected to skyrocket like electricity in Finland, just a "mild 2x" or so. Which - as a datacenter operator actually makes things even more difficult as the return vs. cost for selling waste heat just got that much worse. That was the plan for our second dc, which is now in back burner because we expect electricity costs alone to actually exceed our revenue for a few months this winter. Further price increases might be necessary, we will know in a few weeks.
We btw have new R32 digital inverter chillers mostly, just installed in the past 1½ years. Nice efficiency jump, but not magic. Same power cooling power increased by 40% vs. just couple years older R401 units, and on the toshiba units at optimal conditions 60% increase (typical same 40%). Panasonic units have eco mode too, which cuts down power consumption to ~half, and increases efficiency at the cost of maximum cooling capacity.
HUGE DOWNSIDE THO; R32 is flammable, R401 was not.
We view this current situation as potential and possibilities in disguise -- just like every other challenge we've had. So far, we have come out stronger from every big challenge in our past. While worrying events which do cause extreme pain right now, i do expect the same results this time around too. Stuff is starting to happen within 2 weeks at quite a rapid pace.
No, he's not making any jokes, he's literally that stupid and an asshole (note, I'm not saying you are). Confirmed by bankruptcy, lawsuits, and general cuntish behaviour.
What stuff? And how is electricity used in "burning stuff"? Genuine question. I would think the act of burning specifically made it not electrical sources. And the inefficiency...
Yup, Sweden here, and a few winters ago I had to run my diesel powered heater to thaw the outside unit of my electric heat pump in my garage. It feels a bit backwards when you are burning fossil fuels to heat up the thing that is supposed to be a fossil free heat source.
The heat pumps are great until you hit the sub -25 C constantly season, then they simply do not work. There are "nordic" or "arctic" models that are supposed to manage it, but guess what, they are just equipped with electrical heating elements in the outside unit. The efficiency goes to hell immediately.
He is comedian by origin ... he does make jokes, many memes of him is from that origin, him making a joke. ie. the tinfoil hat meme.
Just because he has had financial issues, lawsuits or acted like an ass does not mean he doesn't get it right too, even if you dislike him.
To make electricity you generally burn stuff (except hydro ofc), that stuff can be anything with energy content to be burned. Biomatter like wood, fossils like gas, oil, coal. In some cases it is radioactive matter (not exactly burned, but similar end result ... fuel is spent)
When you use the electricity it did not appear from thinair, it had to be generated somewhere, in exact sync of the usage mind you, therefore when you run your heatpump you are actually using some fuels for large portion. Baseload is not 100% hydro after all.
Energy is not created out of thin air, neither does it magically appear from anywhere, it is merely transformed between forms. Typical way to get electricity is transforming chemical energy to heat energy to kinetic and finally to electricity. AKA burning stuff, or radiation (nuclear).
Did you skip your highschool physics lessons?
Exactly, at that point you are better off using direct electrical heating if you cannot burn stuff. These green ecoterrorists seem to have no sense of reality, or they have good sense of reality and just want to destroy everything.
Broken clock argument. Nice!
You're confusing electrical generation and electrical consumption. I don't think you know what you're talking about. This is what you initially said:
If it's using electricity, it's not burning stuff. My point was heat conversion is not always inefficient where you make it sound like it always is.
But whatever. We're likely having two different conversations.
Also, the whole point of renewables is to replace fossil fuels wherever possible. But in Canada, with our cold winters, it was never expected to completely replace fossil fuels. I don't know why anyone would have that expectation. Operating conditions/temperatures is a specification for pretty much any widget made.
You misread obviously along with misunderstanding. Electricity is generated from something, which had certain energy potential somewhere where it was generated. A lot of losses happen en route. Those losses do not happen if you use that source of energy directly at the location where you need that heat. I have 2 different things on that sentence: Electricity - a form of energy, and energy - encompassing all forms.
Most of energy during dark cold windless winter comes from stuff being burned (or other fuel source like nuclear)
Well, weren't you just making argument for the New Green Agenda? Sounded like it.
Regardless, the Green Eco Terrorists for sure seem to think solar panels is all you need. Uhm, the sun doesn't shine always. Nor does the wind blow always. and electricity cannot be efficiently stored in such massive quantities.
The green movement has the thinking philosophy that solar panels and wind turbines work 24/7 and doesn't matter of the location or time of the year. Then again, they have started to demonize those too. Long story short, i have come to the conclusion long time ago that the actual green agenda is just to destroy modern civilization... I am sure they would still complain when we all live in caves with no technology what-so-ever about burning wood for warmth .... oh wait, they already do! EU just decided trees do not grow anymore and are not renewable at all
Hence time to go back for coal gas with russia as the sole supplier.... then when you hear green agenda was started by stasi, followed up by kgb and now fsb ...
Why and how is Solar specifically, large solar farms “green” when:
a. pV panels are not green - and only partly recyclable
b. They gather large amounts of dust and require regular cleaning by water and often cleaning solutions.
c. Solar PV farms increase ambient temperature, by a couple of degrees, even at night time
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep35070
Because the grifters told you it was "green" but not the part about how that green ends up in their pocketbooks.
I agree that recycling panels is problematic, but it's still greener over its life than the share of a coal-fired power station. As coal is the least favoured of our electricity generation techniques, and adding more solar will reduce the need for coal (in the UK, we are single-digit days per year when we need them switched on), so yes, it's still relatively substantially greener than not having them.
All of your points though apply to any form of electricity generation, even cleaning if you consider the requirements for all the places where staff need to be.
Further demonizing Co2 is pretty much a hoax, but admittedly Co2 is increasing very rapidly, more rapidly than any time in the known history. However, this planet is extremely adaptive, and there is enough Co2 in the atmo only when sahara becomes green again -- yes it was green and lush highly arable land in ancient history (but near term in geological sense)
No one talks about the new forests appearing etc. and how Co2 effect is limited (about all of it's effects already done), and how water vapour is actually much more potent greenhouse gas, but you cannot tax that. Increased Co2 means plants need less water to grow and survive and sufficient Co2 levels, probs about 10x from current would make the Sahara green again. Adaptability of the planet is very slow going from human perspective, but very very fast from geological perspective.
No one is allowed to talk how this planet was actually about to completely die before human activity started releasing vast amounts of Co2 back into the atmosphere. We were down at just ~200ppm, and plants require ~160ppm to survive. By releasing all that Co2 back into the atmosphere we actually saved this friggin' planet.
Further, the whole climate changing has always been happening, there's nothing new about it, and i am quite certain 1 million years ago it had zero to do with human activity
No one talks about solar cycles, and how all the planets in our solar system has been getting warmer as of late. No one talks about how the measurements typically shown to prove "the issue" starts from the coldest possible point, and the timescales are meaningless on geological timescale -- all of the period can be just chalked up as "geological weather" in essence.
Every weather event these days is a climate crisis event, where it used to be just regular weather events in the past. Big floods happen, forest fires happen etc. they have always been happening. Australia's big wild fires were actually caused by green agenda stopping the normal annual culling to make firewalls, essentially areas intentionally burned off to stop the spread of a actual wild fire. No one talks how in history the wild fires were just normal cycle, and stopped the excessive fires these days as there is now more growth on those areas. No one talks about how coral reefs are doing better than ever, they only show you those which are not doing great. They only allow you to talk about how amazon is being cut down.
You are not allowed to talk that we are technically still in ice age, and how we are at low point of temperatures for the past 12-14k years, and how the past 12-14k years is the most stablest climate this planet has ever had in it's history.
You are not allowed to talk how sea level is not actually rising, but staying steady. You are not allowed to talk how the icebergs which when melting would not raise the sea level because they already are in the sea. You are not allowed to talk about the ice cycle and how much new ice is also forming. You are only allowed to talk about the melting of ice.
You are not allowed to talk how scientists are not at all in agreement about all of the climate change stuff, and you are not allowed to talk about the real physics behind climate changing. You are not allowed to talk about how the planet radiates more heat out as it warms.
Climate change is absolutely real, and we as humans have very little to do with it, beyond saving all life on earth by our activity. Our activity simply is not at that scale which would change the temperature of this planet in any worrying amounts. This planet has been vastly warmer in it's history already.
So on and so on and so on and so on. These are called political truths, what that means is anything repeated often enough is eventually accepted as The Truth, The One And Only Truth, no matter of the science involved.
There are local pollution issues, there is no debate about that, but that's what they are; Local. This planet is absolutely HUGE, and most of it is water. Most people cannot fathom the huge scale involved here.
Thanks for making my point
Sir, Russia sells oil and gas through commercial companies (for example, Gazprom). If the customer pays for the delivery, he must receive it. Otherwise, the seller will be held liable in court for breach of contract. And there are such examples, I could recall PigNic (Poland), and they win, but, as far as I know, Gazprom also goes to court with similar requests.
Disputes over commercial contracts are difficult to understand in most cases, but at least both parties can discuss terms and violations in court.
I read the news, but I don't have to accept everything that is published in the news, just because someone, somewhere, publishes it. And this related not only to "west" media. Quality of media go down too much in all the world include Russia of course. This is because too many people have access to media services - they are not educated enough, they have less knowledge about everything, their culture index is very low, and so on and so forth. In the XXI century, we have people who cannot calculate 2 + 2 without a smartphone and get information only from Google, but not from a serious scientific book or magazine. To me, it looks like a degradation of everything. But this is real life...
Agreed solar is lesser of two evils.
But
Scale of solar is very small compared to coal. And the first and second gen capex is not yet replaced 100 percent.
PV manufacturing isn’t quite green, as technology evolves, PV efficiency improves and grid connectivity losses and storage get optimized…
Things can only get better.
Right now solar is so much financial subsidy driven that it offers perverse incentives.
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Lost connection led to incorrect interpretation of your message. Leaving my now in applicable comments for posterity.
Never said coal was good. It is the probably tge worst. Not to mention obscene carbon credits which reward a coal plant operator for pollution
InterXion Frankfurt:
Price adjustment for contracts with metered energy consumption ("metered"):
Energy prices are expected to increase by 0.44€ to 0.80€ per kWh. To calculate how this increase will affect your business, we recommend adding the increase to your existing kWh tariff and then multiplying it by your expected consumption.
wow! I thought we had it bad at 0.46€/kWh currently :O This is up from about 0.095€/kWh previously.
Stick to your day job mate
Actually, he's been pretty much saying it's not profitable anymore, so maybe he should just find a new day job.
Telia just increased their pricing because their electricity costs in Finland have tripled.
They have peaked at worst 8x over the same time last year.
I wonder how many more price increases to come. Leaseweb announced some increases too, OVH etc. but it's starting to sound like there's more of these on the horizon.
It's getting insane in Finland.
Our capital city is handing out plastic bags to schools and teaching how to poop into a plastic bag during power outages in schools.
Fingrid (national grid organization) warned of potential prices upto 400cnt/kWh (YES 4€!) and potential rolling blackouts.
7day electricity price market average is now 25.36cnt/kWh VAT 0%. Highest rates usually are Dec-Feb..
Oh well, i guess this was the Green Dream.
Hope they're biodegradable bags.
you should check the prices atm.
1 mwh is 90€ and lower
This is why you need energy independence instead of dependence.
Short term suffering, long term gain.
Indeed, that's hard to achieve but it's long term goal -- at least partially.
Just my garage alone received big enough electricity invoice now that it would have bought a 10KWp solar panel setup by itself ...