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[Poll] Should Provider Offers Sink?
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Someone is reopening the threads you closed? That’s sus
Sink, or not sink. That's the question.
Just upgrade to XenForo and all necessary function will be present. I believe there is even theme to make xenforo look like this vanilla theme. Of course after 10 years from now and 3 buy outs of LE[T-B].
Actually no, we do have such a feature, Jon just turned it off. It worked well before Jon took over and turned it off, @FAT32 was trying to see how it worked. It used to sink threads automatically after I think 7 days.
We all told Jon this, that's why this thread was created. It now seems it was a waste of time. No surprise.
Also us Mods were very good at working out which thread needed sinking, aka a thread from Black Friday 2 years ago. Or last year for that matter. Until Jon removed that right to. I'm starting to see a pattern here 🤔
Does the benefits of no sink only apply to cisnero threads? If yes, than it is very sad situation we have here...
Jon & Dust just give their lip service.. all hail @revenue!!
@raindog308 I see, you are Jon henchmen so likely you will say anything that make Jon happy. You should be banned too for spamming desknerd discussion..
Edit: proof of spam
Why bother what the community thinks/feels! as long as drama is creating moolah, WHO CARESZ ??!!!!
Just use this script - https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/173481/dustinc-hates-him-improve-your-let-experience-with-this-one-simple-trick#latest
With so many spammy bumps/promotions & aggressive marketing tactics, one would recall the EIG hosts & how shitty they became in due course of time.
Doing anything over, is harmful
Maybe just a mistake without "political" intentions?
@all
I don't quite get the excitement, even if we did assume that there was some quiet deal between @jbiloh and @dustinc. After all dustinc seems to pay a lot each month which again helps a lot to keep our community afloat. I've seen way worse things ...
Well noted, I don't like dustinc's rather massive advertising either, but (a) hey, if that translates to playing a significant part in keeping LET afloat and developing I can accept that without problems, and (b) we know what jbiloh did and does for our community, now let's look in the mirror: what do we, each of us, do for LET? This whole thing reminds me of someone getting a free flight and then complaining about the stewardess wearing a dress he doesn't like.
Finally, it's not like dustinc's ads trigger epilepsy attacks; they are but an inconvenience. We are all free to look at them or to ignore/skip them.
I myself don't like the stewardess's dress neither, but I'm aware that I'm not the owner of the airplane nor even at least a paying customer; We could leave the airplane (sorry, metaphors always limp) anytime we want but we chose to stay so I try to understand and don't complain about her dress.
Sign, here he comes with his BS.
I merely asked a question. But, oh well, since when do you care about reality and truth ...
my man, @jsg might be a communist but he can still run laps around you in a debate.
also @jsg is a local god, you're just a cynical old British guy.
...in his basement.
having to have an opinion on everything for sure doesn't elevate your position into anything.
and I wouldn't call "running around someone" in a debate a strength. either make a punch or keep quiet if you have no argument. avoding to give answer to direct questions by texting about everything else does not help either.
and all i ever hear is blah blah blah
I don't do tantrums or throw out smoke & mirror replies to deflect from admitting I am wrong or don't understand something as well as I think. So if that is running laps around me in a debate then fair play to him for that. Although I have never actually had a debate with him, nobody has, on this site at least.
True, Although cynicism on this site is a basic requirement for all. You will make poor decisions otherwise.
Ultimately If I am wrong I will say so, no shame in being wrong, missing the point or not understanding it. That is a quality that so many on here don't have.
If you care about being wrong when you are wrong to the point you won't admit it and would rather use a smoke and mirrors approach to deflect, you are doing life wrong.
My critics are absolutely right in that I'm certainly not a god. I wouldn't even call myself a guru. (Sorry, @SirFoxy I'm sure you meant well, and thank you for the compliment even though I don't deserve it).
At the same time though a considerable part of my critics seem to be experts in selective reading, to rarely use a mirror while looking fervently detailed at people they don't like. Plus, a few of them behave like nasty assholes.
To provide just two examples: They stubbornly - and wrongly - accused me of defending @cociu plus they stubbornly repeat that I'm arrogating to be a know all and that I never admit being wrong or making an error, while actually I did admit errors/being wrong multiple times and even apologized, probably more often than they themselves did, btw.
I guess it's to do with personality. If you have knowledge relevant or something of value for a certain environment (e.g. LET) you don't need to, but if one is, frankly being but one of many in the crowd (I'm trying to put it politely) then picking on others and throwing accusations at them seems to look like an attractive option.
You can ask anybody for whom I did something or who had some private interaction with me and you'll with quite high probability hear something like "he's a bit weird and old school but he's friendly and always ready to help".
Quite some critics are even incapable of saying once "I don't trust your benchmark" and from then on just skipping my reviews.
Somewhat similar situation with @jbiloh (and no, I'm not putting myself next to him. He has done way more than me for this community). LET was quite down when he suddenly appeared as the new owner. I remember well how certain people didn't give him the slightest chance. The man did tons of hard work and invested his own money and efforts (gladly, a few gave him a chance and supported him. @raindog308 is a good example) ... et voilà LET climbed up the hill again - and still some users attacked him, accused him of whatnot, and let him very clearly know that, no matter what he does for LET - and hence for all of us - for them he'd always stay Mr. Evil.
At the same time, very few LET users said "Thank you, jbiloh!", but many seem to be obsessed about a certain provider who, yes irrititates me too with his propagating his company and offers really extensively, pays a lot of money for ads that allows jbiloh and the LET team to improve and grow our community. But that's not what quite a few LET users see, who are here anyway and who are here for free, yet act as if they had a right to demand anything.
I guess one must live with those creatures, but frankly, their "criticism" weighs very, very little. And god beware, if they invested in our community and would get treated they way they treat me.
Yes, you also got a new tag from Jon.. so yeah you will not talk anything bad about him, because you are his team
Does this discussion a joke to you? Jon create this discussion, majority member voting for sinking after certain days, then after almost a year Dust still engage on almost a year old offer discussions, more than one. Practically Jon is ghosting us about this issue for almost a year..
I voted yes, after a week.
Good to know. Look a bit above. I publicly stated that opening (or even permitting) a vote on that issue wasn't smart. That doesn't sound to me like one talks to ones boss.
Unless, of course @jbiloh happens to really be ready to reign in on LET's probably largest ad customer - in which case many points made here would be moot anyway and he would be celebrated. Or no, wait, this is LET, so probably even doing that wouldn't stop many of his "critics".
Nope, your suspicion (re myself) is wrong. I simply do what I did from day 1. I give the man a chance and try to support LET, and when there are reasons to like him then I like him rather than holding his past against him and wildly accusing him of sinister things.
Btw., how much money have you invested in LET? How many days, weeks, or even months of work?
He has invested in the tens of thousands of $$ (just my guess), countless hours of work, and more.
I myself have done at least something, by no means even vaguely comparable to what jbiloh has done for LET, but hey, I've done (and keep doing) my little part. Yet I do not see myself in a position to have demands (other than being treated halfway decently here).
How much money you invested on LET discussion forum?
Taking a dump everywhere isn't contributing, last I checked.
How much would it cost to buy a few Ad slots with just a picture of a sink?
Hi Everyone,
Thanks to everyone who has voted and offered their opinion on how provider offer threads should be handled. The community's opinions are recognized and have been part of our conversations and thinking on this matter.
I'm currently traveling this week for work and so my time has been limited.
To quickly offer my thoughts in my own words on this topic:
Right now we are applying a logic first approach to things, as @raindog308 said in his earlier post. For example some older offer threads have been set to sink which had reached their useful life. Generally speaking for the next period of time we are going to allow the community to dictate how long threads stay active (ie: how much user based posting occurs within them and the amount of engagement). We intend to apply this thinking across all offer threads from all providers here on LowEndTalk. How we choose to handle offer threads will continue to evolve and the only thing that can be guaranteed is that the same treatment will occur to all offer threads. We will also be watchful for activity from any user intended to disrupt the community.
Is this supposed to be a threat?
Perhaps, but more likely just being clear that you can call it a community but it is not a democracy. I know right, he opened the thread.
No of course not, that's certainly not how I go about things. What it means that if a user were to bump 20 threads with the intention of trying to disrupt things we won't appreciate that.
The end is nigh.
Community also would like to receive a comment about removed "sink" ability for mods.
now that's obviously a definition that you'd want to be careful with.
really no offense meant, but it exactly describes Dustins disruptive marketing strategy: coming here every other week, checking on 20 old threads and bumping them whenever a user replied to it with his order number...
seems the community agrees and waits for you to take measure like adjusting the rules or automations to prevent that from happening. if you instead remove or restrict functions that mods could use to do that work for you it's sadly painting a clear picture rendering your words and promises as empty shells.
Enjoy your travels.
Will "your bandwidth has been doubled", "order number #133455" qualify as engagement and/or user posting?
If so - don't bother changing anything, as its obviously not addressing the elephant in the room.
It was 6, in peaceful protest to draw attention to the issue. A Warning response warranted, at best.