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MyW @MikePT
https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/158695/free-migrations-shared-and-reseller-plans-directadmin-mailchannels-and-litespeed-lscache
Source?
We have a few cpanel licenses which expire mid year 2020 but we're not going to bother using these unless a few customers insist on cpanel until then.
purchased 4 licenses from directadmin - its the right thing to do!
sub'd
bennyVasquez (Manager of Community Engagement at cPanel) on their Discord channel as reported in the cPanel price increase thread at Webhostingtalk.
Thank you mate!!!
Indeed, @mpkossen, I have monthly deals in the offers thread and yearly in the 4th July thread!
Cheers
thanks for the response.
in all fairness, even if cpanel did revert to previous pricing the community would be stupid to forgive them and not take their business elsewhere.
I think cpanel have proven that they have absolute no respect for their clients, and how many may land up closing their businesses down because of their own greed.
so based on an ethical decision, you' be trusting to trust them again.
We the community should be supporting the likes of Direct Admin and others and vote with our wallets.
Direct Admin changed their pricing too. So I don't trust both.
Did they fuck you over with a minimum 250% increase and hardly any warning?
Indeed, webhosts/customers really would need to walk with their wallets still - which gives any future control panels a clear indication that such disregard for the customers will have negative consequences.
I have no doubt that the "announcement" will be either -
1) Meaningless apology
2) Insignificant tweaking in price structure which will do not nothing other than cause further discombobulation in the industry.
3) Vague promise of tweak in price structure to be offerered at some point in the future
The former price structure surely left money on the table for Oakley, but the low pricing also stifled competition. Oakley removed the lid, and now several independent software vendors are seizing the opportunity.
That's why we need competing open source projects to keep DA honest.
Pretty different story with DirectAdmin removing life time licenses. Everyone knows they are not sustainable on long term.
But a business needs to protect itself from any kind of external change, indeed.
I actually now believe that the backlash has been so strong on this that they are preparing to throw us a bone. We will need to wait and see what that is but it may well be enough to change the course straight back to cPanel and away from DA.
My money is on them increasing the volume of users included in the $45 licence.
Friday's announcement will be ...
Then more backlash and lovely weekend for LET.
It's actually a small segment that is publicly whining about the increase. If you look at WHT its the same people over and over again.
The reality is- many sold 3 year plans yet don't have ANY of their vendors on 3 year contracts. So business fail 101. Don't sell long term if your pricing is not assured. The other issue is that cPanel saw tons of resellers in the marketplace, yet was not getting revenue from them. They should have just required resellers to get a license. As much as people say they could have tolerated a 100% increase and other similar comments- the same group of people would have moaned over any price increase.
I have 4 months old Direct Admin shared account with @LiteServer , running smoothly no issue at all .
contact them, they provide DA reseller also.
Well I have never saw them advertising for DA Shared hosting, I have one Managed DA VPS with them so casually asked if they provide a shared one, and I got one from them.
Remaining shared cPanel hosting I have from, very satisfied with them
@HostMantis ( Singapore)
@hostloving ( Ramnode NL )
@Francisco ( Luxembourg)
@mikho ( NL)
according to my numbers, cpanel is already loosing money, here is my graph
Only lifetime licenses and they grandfathered existing ones and gave the opportunity to current users with licences to buy for the same price till September.. yeah, the same right? If cPanel had done this most people wouldn't have think about moving away from them in the short term.
exacerry @desfire
It may be hard to grasp the concept that companies exist to generate profit since LET companies exist to lose money.
https://www.change.org/p/federal-governements-alert-worldwide-government-of-cpanel-recent-abuse-of-dominance-antitrust
Isn't it kinda sad that single software dominates a whole industry this much.
Is it their fault though that the competition wasn't as good?
They're shaking in their Bermuda shorts. > @emgh said:
They bought up the competition - Plesk. Is a VC firm cornering the market a good thing for hosts and consumers? I think not.
Stop spreading fake news bro.
They didn't change the price.
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Well, how many companies do you see using Plesk as their main web hosting control panel? The real competition was Directadmin for sure.
Nope, it is not their fault. Look at Intel. They've had no competition for 10 years and jacked up prices of their shit so high. Now, they can't respond to AMD.
Umm, yes they did.
A few days ago their lifetime licence was $299 with patches/upgrades forever. Now it is $299 plus $99 every year.
Now reasons aside that is a price change in my view.
The support were free and become 99$/year, so even if you own the licence you will pay ~9$ a month for the "support and updates" only.