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Incero & SpeedyKVM throws the ban hammer at ALL LET members.
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Just out of curiosity; why is the thread title so deliberately inflammatory (and factually inaccurate), and who removed @RyanArp’s provider tag?
Bro, do you even read? Aside from that I think it was a trigger happy mod.
Still not clear how Ryan managed to have 3 active accounts I think it is now.
Agreed with your Right to admission comment.
I’ve been in workshops all day, so no, I don’t have time to read; didn’t seem like anyone knew a page back.
Multiple accounts was never considered to be a problem. Pretending to be multiple people was. Two accounts, not three.
I think that I would be more lenient and remove the provider tag only from "direct Incero brands", which I would define as any brand that Incero/Gordon controls/defines (i.e., that falls under the umbrella of Incero). At the moment, to my knowledge, this would concern only Incero and SpeedyKVM but not any reseller of Incero that Incero/Gordon doesn't control/define (so even Catalyst Host would be okay insofar as Incero/Gordon doesn't control/define that company as such -- even if Ryan also happens to work at SpeedyKVM).
Not sure who it was, but Ant did some reversals, he did say at one point he would not
Nobody is being banned though.
1 account for personal/Catalyst, one account for repping Incero, right?
Fuck, so I could have been getting pm's and saying shit about someone and it may have been the same person... Never knew that was allowed.
If it wasn't obvious and was noticed, it would generally be noted. That's something I started doing early on. Don't think it was too difficult to recognize the relation between those two accounts. Maybe I overestimate what people know. But he also wasn't really using his old account.
I have no idea how you didn’t know this.
You know what I meant tho, right?
Not an issue to be fair, I guess for those that want to manage it that way then two accounts is a reasonable play.
Yeah, but you know, on here people see banned and assume total provider ban, rather than a restriction on offers out of Incero.
Yeh, fair, I’ll edit.
Worse, you could be getting pm's from your other accounts and you never knew!
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See, you might joke but that is probably something I would do. And I would reply!
Wow cool so sort of like dual personality.
No, just not realising I sent myself a message from another account, then probably Enraged about what I told myself that I replied back in disgust.
The question is more general: If A boycotts B and C is a customer of B, should A boycott C as well? The answer depends on how strongly A feels about their reason for boycotting B in the first place.
True dat, I had a weeklong argument between two of my alts.
Its normal to feel disgruntled when you are singled out and shown a "you are not allowed" board. If the provider has the right to deny you service, you too have the right to show your displeasure about it. That is exactly what he did and doesn't have to feel guilty about it.
I bet you’re the life of the party on a night out.
Hmm, gonna have to disagree here.
All of my clients are vetted & curated, though I wouldn't pull this level of idiocy in a million years.
Refusing service based upon one's association is illegal in many(most) regions.
What's next?
They're gonna ban people who have associated with homosexuals? How about banning the Jews, as well as any black Irishmen.
Whoever is behind that brand has always been a pisshead, there's no way to defend this clause - not morally nor legally.
I've been refused service for this one before irl
Bro...... That was way uncalled for and way out of line.
What's next, you're going to dislike a provider for their sexual preference? I've no indication that you are, but I'll suggest it and match the logic that led you to such an incredibly irresponsible suggestion. Stands to reason if you dislike them for one reason you might dislike them for any and all reasons right? Wrong, that's not logic.
You should seriously feel bad for posting that. You're better than that.
Just to clear things up for my personal account where I represent Catalyst Host ONLY. When SpeedyKVM_Ryan was changed to just SpeedyKVM I was told to no longer post at LET and as far as I am concerned the account is dead. As far as I am concerned I am no longer representing anything other than CatalystHost. I just work for Incero and do an excellent job at providing excellent support for our customers.
I support the choice to not allow Incero based offers.
They are directly targeting LET members in a negative way, it isn't unreasonable for the LET community to want to not drive more business their way.
Not to mention, if the comment about LET members too commonly torrenting illegally is true, then that issue would include Incero customers selling to LET members. When does that become the next issue?
I find the lack of outrage by long term LET hosts that use Incero to be really surprising. They are giving the middle finger to a big chunk of your customer and support base. Were you to start your business now, Incero would be giving the middle finger to you too. Just because you're grandfathered (for now) doesn't mean what they are doing doesn't deserve outrage.
Though I suppose it does stop competition from starting up in the same fashion.
I would not put too much reliance on that meaning anything at all.
Edited for @lazyt.
@Lee. Would not not would.