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I don't see how that's related to the differences between various kinds of education.
That's true, in the past many companies only considered IT as an auxiliary or support function and cost center, but nowadays many corporations accept IT as an integrated essential business function counterpart in generating revenue.
@bigcat @johnlth93 I assume you guys are Malaysians? I know @johnlth93 is.
What unis do you guys go to? Is Lim Kok Wing any good? I might just fly to the US..
@Ivan Eeh tak bolih tahu tu..
I do.
Enlighten me, oh great W1V_Lee.
All your coins only have one face (ironic saying in your case), so I won't for that reason.
I'd imagine that you wouldn't have bothered posting at all, in that case. Sounds more like you don't have an explanation, but want to make it seem like you do.
Uhuh, you're right.
Its a great career. You get to work in the great outdoors too depending on which branch of Civil Engineering you take. Also, the job market will never go dry because everyone needs water, building, and transportation/bridges.
I personally love Civil Engineering a ton and wouldn't really change it for the world right now.
This guy has a multimedia degree.
Lets call it what it is. I have a photoshop degree.
Associates in Digital Arts and Design and Bachelors in Business. So basically a jack of all trades degree, and a business degree.
Duh, no CFC @ Melaka campus
To be honest, i never heard of it ... Well i don't know much though
You're from?
But what about the aqueducts? You learn about those as well?
@johnlth93 If you're talking about what university/college, none, I'm still at secondary school. Location, Selangor :P
Oh, din't know you're fellow Malaysian too
Nice to meet you then
And it was huge
Unfortunately, Viking contribution in the European history is too often overlooked... I would be interested in reading it if it is in english or a few other languages I know.
I have a PhD in electrical engineering, a masters in analytical physics, and a masters in business administration. Also a licensed professional engineer. I guess I like school
@HalfEatenPie and i was thinking all guys here are in IT. I have master in civil engineering, and after 10 years doing it i can say you really don't learn that much at uni, but you can get directions where to look and learn stuff when you get to need them, i think beside 'fun' that is only point of going to uni.
@Ivan
I quit my BEng Mech after few semester, so I wouldn't know much about university.
My degree is bachelor's in computer science, and I'm 26 by now. I guess @Ivan that your current age/concern might explain why you are curious of that question, e.g. for helping you decide a study area. But in real life you'll find that in many areas of IT, job offering usually asks first for your technical knowledge! Then secondly for any relevant certificates such as certificates of Cisco, Microsoft, Oracle... or, for work experience/certificate that is relevant also can do, and actually at times and for some employers it's preferred over how many of mentioned certificates you've got. Then thirdly comes the questioning about which degree level and type do you hold! That's why Bachelor's, Masters or Doctorate isn't relevant or what employer is looking after in most cases in many or most areas here.
While in the other hand a degree can help you big time in other cases, like if you are seeking to work as a teacher, trainer, lecturer, research..etc. It's usually here the first thing looked after. I believe as well in some cases where you have experience already (maybe at least above 5 years) and seeking an administrative position where sometimes it's so relevant, even though in others high qualifications can be above what is required/expected.
@Intcs Thank you for the explanation.
I guess experience and certificates are pretty much really important. All these things are kinda confusing, but at this time I'd just like to learn more, haha :P
Yep roughly. I mean besides for Los Angeles aqueduct system (the entire political story behind this is horrible but it's a Civil Engineering work landmark) aqueducts aren't really used that much anymore.
First, Hello! Love to see other Civils around! Personally, I find that my undergraduate Civil Engineering degree has helped me atleast build a foundation for what I need to know what direction I want to go in my life, which is great because honestly I didn't know what I wanted to do. I didn't want to invest years and years of my life into something I wasn't a big fan of in the end, and taking my courses in the University has made me understand that I do like this career and wish to further it (along with IT and server admin things). So... basically exactly what you said. Except university is also a great place to network with other people in the same field (its one amazing opportunity) and definitely (in my opinion) gets you thinking in a different way.
Although I will admit, I have no real-world experience in Civil Engineering except for my internships, so you do have more experience in this field than me.
Call me a chump for believing, but I seriously do find my university experience one of the best decisions in my life.
Yeah I'd say in a lot of cases knowledge is the primary factor, though clearly not all as we've all seen some idiot hired because he had a degree.
The person who truly knows his/her field inside and out, has the degree, and has the relevant certificates... That is the person that will be hired by the people who pay the big dollars. A degree can, if nothing else, indicate discipline and willingness to subject yourself to education in your field, which is often worth more than the class content itself in my opinion.
BA, MA and 3/4's of a PhD
In archaeology.
That is true, however, there are so many universities lately that practically sell diplomas, not being much more than the internet fakers.
School is going downhill and I think this is in purpose.
Wow @sleddog! That's awesome! I'm hoping to get a PhD too!
Honestly, I have tons of respect for everyone who continues to pursue in higher education.
I'd have to disagree with that, or atleast the university I went to yeah its difficult to get kicked out of a university but they don't just hand everything to you.
School is going downhill and I think this is in purpose.
I think this is the case lately (since 1990's) in many countries in eastern Europe, but if you go to uni that has tradition that is not the case. And if you buy your diploma you will hardly find job in country where you bought it, because everyone knows that you bought it, you will need skill's to get a job even there.
I was being a smartass and asking about the Roman Aqueducts
I know. And Los Angeles Aqueduct is one of the few Aqueduct systems left in the USA :P
Edit: Also, you smartass.