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not true. they literally lied to everyone in the beginning.
I don't know about their past, but right now, they don't.
What are the claims against Aesa? I can mention a few:
1) They are from Russia. This is not true. At least, they have nothing to do with the government. Perhaps some staff or even the owner have Russian citizenship, but this is not a criminal offence, as far as I know, according to the UN Charter, at least.
2) They don't clearly state how they use their network. So, some people say that it's unfair to declare a location in Sweden when it's not. I think they just need to add more information in their advertising.
For example, OVH has offered IP addresses with different geolocations for many years, like Spain and Portugal, while hosting servers in France itself.
So it seems to me that there's too much politics involved in this topic and not enough about business.
Did you read first post and maybe care to visit link of OGF? The main claim for aeza is:
OGF thread has a bit more lard on this topic without to much derail. Lie about actual locations is just a sugar on top and 0 fck given about that.
P.S. To be clear: if they do shady, immoral things, they still can provide good services. Just the main concern is - company stability. For how long they will provide services? Until first raid? Until their bribe money no longer fill pockets? That's why topic called "... going downhill".
I doubt the investigations conducted by Western journalists. I know only a few people who can do this professionally and according to standards, and one of them is Krebs (https://krebsonsecurity.com/), but I am not familiar with OGF.
At least 2 statements from above three can be made about any cheap hosting: therefore, if you conduct an objective investigation, you will see that many hosts can be accused of the same things.
You may know that people are trying to find hosting services that provide BYIOP. In most cases, these are resellers trying to use marketing opportunities to sell hosting services without investing in hardware. Some resellers may be malicious, but in many cases, their customers are suspicious. This does not make resellers "satellites" of hosting, though.
In any case, I am sure that this resonance gives Aeza the opportunity to check its procedures and take action against malicious customers.
We're not talking about false IP geolocations. They clearly state the server locations on website, they just lie.
It's deception, and there's nothing to defend here.
It is from the same series of "lies" when many hosts said that they provide services in "their" datacenters. Bad marketing bullshit practice. Here, I can agree with you.
Unfortunately, this works well for sales, and that's why such practices are so popular. Unfortunately, in the real world, honesty is often not rewarded.
Then I will call them out for lying, again
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Ok this is just really strange to me as an american.
But the ping between Hetzner Finland and Stockholm is 7ms, Vienna to Hetzner is 10 ms. Is there really such a huge market that people are willing to pay 200% more for being 7-10 ms away?
Yes, low price and latency isn’t always a primary factor. Sometimes there are absolute reasons for needing a server in a particular region
People want multiple locations between their servers. Often for HA or just for having some different countries in their VPS arsenal. It’s nog just about the ping.
Like what though? Surely if you are doing something like high frequency trading/sniping, you're not going to be pinching pennies to get a server in the proper location for $10/year?
And for HA? There should be plenty of cheap providers offering Hetzner germany + finland + OVH.
Just one example, for a client of mine, they -needed- servers in four continents. €250 for the EU POP, $700 for the African POP. Price/latency doesn’t always matter, and bullshitting your POPs can and should land you in hot water.
Sweden has a population of 10,5 million people, and Austria has a population of 9 million people. You won't believe it, but plenty people want to serve their local market from local servers close to them, not those in another country.
By the way, I don't live in Austria, however, I have a 5 ms ping to Graz AT, a 10 ms ping to Vienna AT, and a 25-30 ms ping to Frankfurt DE.
It's obvious which is the more attractive location to me, right?
Not to mention, from the host's perspective, that "everyone" serves clients from Germany and the Netherlands. There's huge competition in those two locations, but not so much competition from some other locations.
If you can fool people and sell cheap German servers as if they were in Vienna, Paris, and London on the top of the standard German location, it means a much bigger market than just the same old German location.
This kind of proves my point. If you're spending $250 - $700 per pop, you're not looking at Aeza, and these locations are extremely close to each other.
I'm not excusing Aeza's behavior, but it really doesn't seem like such a big scam that it is made out to be to mixing locations within 10ms of each other. It is lying sure, but its like all the hosts saying that NJ is NY.
It’s not a scam, just dishonest
Dishonesty + some really shady behaviour enabling actual criminal activity and then saying “oh but its not us!” despite them being aware it was happening and turning a blind eye
How is this not a scam? If you need or want a server in Sweden for any reason, you're buying a server in Sweden. If someone tricks you into thinking that the server you purchased is in the location they claim it is, that's a scam.
You're absolutely not the person to tell others that they don't need a server in a certain location. I mean, what the fuck man?
Only for those with poor geography knowledge or the belief that the Europe is one big country. So, basically, only for morons.
And no, some things that are legal in Sweden may not be legal in Germany and vice versa. Each country has its own legislation.
It is a scam in some way because you're not getting the product they say you are. People don't need to justify the reason why they want to be hosted in a certain country, but if they want or need to be, they buy servers there and not elsewhere.
If someone tricks you into thinking that the server you purchased is in the location they claim it is, that's a scam.
Not to mention that there may be a reason why you don't need another Hetzner VPS, especially if you already have a few hosted there.
/double post
The hosting industry is full of soft lies like this such as "unlimited bandwidth" not really being unlimited, and hidden practices like cpu throttling and memory ballooning.
If you are so sensitive to location that you can't stand a 10 ms difference yet you only want to spend $10/year, and you're depending on a russian host for such strict requirements... well you get what you paid for.
its the principle of not LYING
One thing that's overlooked is that certain regulations or compliance requirements dictate a specific location the data/server must physically reside in for some companies.
The small latency difference may not be a concern, but meeting compliance requirements often is. As such false advertising on the location of a server is a major issue.
That's not a soft lie. They sell servers in several different locations, but in reality, they are all in the same location.
Possibly at a location where you already have a server.
How is that a soft lie? You're going too far in trying to downplay their misleading practices.
If you have compliance to deal with you don't risk it on $10/year vps and a Russian host with 9/10 payment methods being crypto and russian only payment methods. Let's not kid anyone here, people buying $10/year vps aren't dealing with compliance.
Why you’re defending something that is an outright lie and misleading clients is beyond me.
Look as a customer, I'd like it if hosts had to be 100% truthful, but that's just not the world we live in.
And if you are paying peanuts and expecting 100% truthful service, that is as silly as believing things like "unlimited bandwidth" being unlimited.
The fact that so many people did not notice this until now, kind of proves the point that it didn't really matter to you that the server was 5-10 ms away.
$1 or $1000 doesnt matter. if you’re a liar you’re a liar and its just a negotiation of how much of a poes you are
But listed (the real and not FAKE) location is fucking the bare minimum for purchasing a service. What’s so hard for you to understand here?
Seriously, I don't know what motivates you so much, but you’re going the extra mile to downplay something that is an outright lie and misleading clients.
what does this mean for a client whose not knowledgeable about networking?
are the servers in a different location from what was advertised?