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Aeza going downhill

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  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited July 2024

    @elite0128 said: what does this mean for a client whose not knowledgeable about networking?
    are the servers in a different location from what was advertised?

    Yes, all their European locations are in reality just Hetzner Germany or Hetzner Finland.
    They lie about datacenters here: https://aeza.net/data-center

  • @mikewazar said: $1 or $1000 doesnt matter. if you’re a liar you’re a liar and its just a negotiation of how much of a poes you are

    That's not really the world we live in.

    If you try to use "unlimited bandwidth" on a $10/year plan you'll get laughed at, even here.

    If you're paying $300/month? That's another story.

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited August 2024

    @bobert said: That's not really the world we live in.

    It's almost impressive how much effort you’ve invested in normalizing lies and misleading clients regarding the location of the servers. It makes me wonder how you're connected with this host, as no sane client would normalize this as knowing location (and we’re not talking about a neighboring city, but a country) is bare minimum for purchasing hosting service from someone.

    I am more and more convinced that this cannot be a coincidence. No way, there must be some incentive to do this. You’re trying too hard.

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  • I got no connection to aeza other than almost getting a vps from Hong Kong from them. You can check my posting history.

    I just think complaining about a server not being within 5-10 ms of it's actual location when you're paying $10/year is nit picking.

    Should they be criticized for lying? Sure. But it's not the scam of the decade that you guys are making it out to be.

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited August 2024

    You're contradicting yourself. You say that they should be criticized for lying, but as soon as people criticize them for lying, you dismiss their criticism as "nitpicking".

    It’s actually you who constantly fights your case, not the other way around. People are just responding to you.

    Besides that, as some have already tried to explain to you, it’s not just about a few milliseconds. That’s a clear example of you downplaying the issue.
    Many of us already have servers with Hetzner and don’t need or want more. But that’s exactly what people (with extra point of failure because of GRE tunneling) unknowingly received because the host lied and did everything in their power to mislead people. The price point is completely irrelevant here.

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Mumbly said:

    @bobert said: Look as a customer, I'd like it if hosts had to be 100% truthful, but that's just not the world we live in.

    But listed (the real and not FAKE) location is fucking the bare minimum for purchasing a service. What’s so hard for you to understand here?

    Seriously, I don't know what motivates you so much, but you’re going the extra mile to downplay something that is an outright lie and misleading clients.

    He’s been having L takes this whole thread, I’m suspecting trolling

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    Literally nobody that’s honest would call saying that a server is in Interxion Stockholm when it is at Hetzner in Helsinki a soft lie…

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  • bobertbobert Member
    edited August 2024

    @Mumbly said: You're contradicting yourself. You say that they should be criticized for lying, but as soon as people criticize them for lying, you dismiss their criticism as "nitpicking".

    No not really? Why can't it be both? Why can't I criticize the scammer and the person who fell for it for having unreasonable expectations?

    Again to me this is equivalent of people buying $10/year vps and expecting to be able to use "unlimited bandwidth". 5-10 ms is a really small distance to me as an American. It's like those hosts that say they are in "NY" and hoping people assume its NYC, when they are in the middle of bum fuck nowhere like albany or buffalo. Or those saying NYC when actually in NJ.

    If this is the first time you've experienced something like this you haven't been in the VPS industry for very long. And I just think throwing a fit over 5-10ms for a $10/year vps is kind of unreasonable. But that is my opinion and you are entitled to yours as well.

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited August 2024

    @bobert said:

    @Mumbly said: You're contradicting yourself. You say that they should be criticized for lying, but as soon as people criticize them for lying, you dismiss their criticism as "nitpicking".

    No not really? Why can't it be both? Why can't I criticize the scammer and the person who fell for it for having unreasonable expectations?

    How is it unreasonable to expect that a location offered in Sweden is actually in Sweden? Your argument is simply moronic. It really is.

    @bobert said: 5-10 ms is a really small distance to me as an American

    Exactly. We’re dealing with an ignorant American perspective with poor knowledge of geography here. You must think that Europe is one country or something.
    So now it's only 5ms in your head?
    Sweden has a population of 10,5 million people, and Austria has a population of 9 million people. You won't believe it, but plenty people want to serve their local market from local servers close to them, not those in another country.

    By the way, I don't live in Austria, however, I have a 5 ms ping to Graz AT, a 10 ms ping to Vienna AT, and a 25-30 ms ping to Frankfurt DE.
    With options to pick it's obvious which is the more attractive location to me, right?
    I really don’t need another German VPS, I already have plenty. But if they are selling servers in nearby Austria, I’m all for it.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited August 2024

    @bobert said: Again to me this is equivalent of people buying $10/year vps and expecting to be able to use "unlimited bandwidth". 5-10 ms is a really small distance to me as an American. It's like those hosts that say they are in "NY" and hoping people assume its NYC, when they are in the middle of bum fuck nowhere like albany or buffalo. Or those saying NYC when actually in NJ.

    You literally think a country in one part of Europe to another is like NY to NYC?

    Embarrassing

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited August 2024

    @Mumbly It's not even about the distance, they literally told me over chat that their Swedish location is with Interxion. NO mention of Hetzner at all.

    They're lying about the actual datacenter that my server is in.

    A whole other thing than calling NY "NYC".

  • FWIW, Aeza is refunding me in USDT TRC. They did not charge me extra 15% as per clause 9.1.1, but deducting 7% that was charged to them by Stripe.

    Paid 195 USD for 1yr 8GB server in HK.
    After refunds, will end up paying 75 USD for a little less than 4 months + lots of sunk time in finding another provider, setting up the server etc etc.

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  • @emgh said: @Mumbly It's not even about the distance, they literally told me over chat that their Swedish location is with Interxion. NO mention of Hetzner at all.

    Exactly. That’s why @bobert arguments piss me off. The host directly tells you that their servers are located in Sweden, and he says it’s unreasonable to expect that those servers are actually in Sweden. How moronic can one be to make such a claim?

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  • @emgh said: Meditate

    @emgh - music to my ears :smiley:

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  • kaitkait Member

    @Mumbly said: They lie about datacenters here: https://aeza.net/data-center

    Well technically they have Interxion with CDN77 where traffic originates from and goes to, but the phisical servers are in Hetzner Finland/Germany.

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited August 2024

    @kait said: Well technically

    Well, technically you didn’t provide us with any new information that the rest of us didn’t already know, but that’s not the point. They are selling servers at stated locations, or at least they are misleading people into believing that the servers are at those locations.

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  • kaitkait Member

    @Mumbly said: Well, technically you didn’t provide us with any new information that the rest of us didn’t already know, but that’s not the point.

    Penis?

  • mwmw Member

    “hello yes servers locat in premium data center XYZ”

    oh nice, XYZ is well known for strong security, power redundancy, and will allow me to comply with a legal requirement I declare to my customers I comply with!

    “er yes we tunnel from data centre XYZ to locat of servers in my basement, very good yes”

    wait so the servers are in your basement 5ms away from the data centre over FTTH?

    “er yes 5ms very low ping basical same as premium data centre XYZ”

    @bobert logic

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    sua ?

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  • sh97sh97 Member, Host Rep

    @emgh said:
    sua ?

    that it s possible.
    Regards

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  • bobertbobert Member
    edited August 2024

    @Mumbly said: Exactly. We’re dealing with an ignorant American perspective with poor knowledge of geography here. You must think that Europe is one country or something.

    No I don't think Europe is 1 country, the countries are small compared to US states.

    From NYC to Buffalo NY is 11 ms.

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  • @bobert said:

    @Mumbly said: Exactly. We’re dealing with an ignorant American perspective with poor knowledge of geography here. You must think that Europe is one country or something.

    No I don't think Europe is 1 country, the countries are small compared to US states.

    You just don’t get it, and no matter how many people try to explain it to you, you still won’t get it. So, I rest my case.
    And you, in your ignorance and limited understanding mixed with an inability to understand other people's points of view, feel free to continue to contradict yourself.

  • Vova1234Vova1234 Member, Patron Provider
    edited August 2024

    @Levi said: Few interesting links from that article to ignite some discussion here:

    https://www.qurium.org/alerts/exposing-the-evil-empire-of-doppelganger-disinformation/

    This article was written by noobs.

  • Do they offer real dedicated cores though

  • mwmw Member

    Network Maintenance Notice

    Please be advised that network maintenance will be conducted at all European locations, excluding the USA and Moscow. During this period, a temporary loss of network access to servers is expected. This maintenance is being carried out by our upstream provider to expand communication channels and stabilize the performance of our international network, improving speed and ping stability.

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  • @BigDongLong said:
    Do they offer real dedicated cores though

    I wouldn't be so sure.

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @mikewazar said:
    Network Maintenance Notice

    Please be advised that network maintenance will be conducted at all European locations, excluding the USA and Moscow. During this period, a temporary loss of network access to servers is expected. This maintenance is being carried out by our upstream provider to expand communication channels and stabilize the performance of our international network, improving speed and ping stability.

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    European locations, excluding the US :D

    @bobert turns out the US is just a european country after all

  • @Mumbly said:

    @kait said: Well technically

    Well, technically you didn’t provide us with any new information that the rest of us didn’t already know, but that’s not the point. They are selling servers at stated locations, or at least they are misleading people into believing that the servers are at those locations.

    anyway, isnt sweden (in particular stockholm) already west-russia? ;)

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  • @kait said:

    @jh_aurologic said: What are you interested in?

    What the police was interested in :joy: I know what pfcloud does but I just wonder what they did that the police didn't like.

    @jh_aurologic said: But yeah, the DC operator must be involved, is that what you want to say? :-)

    No ofcourse not cutiepie :wink:

    According to some it was due to CSAM being held by the owner

  • xehxeh Member
    edited August 2024

    All of my (& some others I asked) Aeza servers seem to be down and the dashboard is also down

    Earlier they announced this:

    Personally I think they are migrating off Hetzner (possibly got kicked off it maybe no proof of this I just think it would make sense)

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