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@Calin your chance to get back those Stripe losses
Same in Dusseldorf, DRT has better transit and shit, but myloc is cheaper colo and XC and stuff. Or Amsterdam with Qupra/NorthC and NIKHEF/Equnix.
From what I’ve gathered lurking in Telegram is their GB sister company is registered B2B with Hetzner and they’ve been given days grace to move
Not sure where the Ukraine part comes from, but the guy running the business end of things is from Borat’s country
No, I mean why have you decided that Hetzner rejected them and not Datacamp/CDN77? As I can see, they announced only network maintenance, not migration of the servers themselves.
You probably don't know why Aeza.ru and Aeza.net exist.
At the end of 2023 Russia is introducing a sovereign internet law and new hosting laws that will require all hosting companies operating in Russia to have mandatory verification of all users and it is also mentioned that it will be impossible to use servers not from Russia, so they opened a company in the UK to get their business out of Russia, I have been following them since they opened and know all the owners of this hosting company, the person listed as the director in the UK is a front man from Kazakhstan
Why do I think their Hetzner account is registered to Ukrainian data?
The answer is simple, Hetzner had no VAT for Ukraine, in 23 Hetzner kicked out all Russians, but Aeza he didn't kick out as you can see
When Hetzner terminated all Russian customers and Aeza didn’t get terminated that just means Aeza isn’t registered with them under their Russian corporate entity. Why are you assuming they are registered as Ukrainian as oppose to UK, where they operate their sister company?
Where is this Ukraine part coming from?
That still doesn't make sense to me economics wise. Surely adding 1.5€ to the cost of each vps is small compared to having to buy multiple datapacket servers?
A single 1 gbps server at Datapacket London is $315/month. It goes up to $1623/month at 10 gbps.
Their UK company was established just over a year ago, and they started selling servers from Hetzner before the release of Amd ryzen 7950x on Hetzner this is the beginning of 2022 it seems, they made GRE amd ryzen 5950x from Hetzner yes and why make an account in the UK and pay VAT tax? They have a Ukrainian working in the company.
This has everything to do with sanctions. Ruvds and ddos guard still operate both Russian and non-russian POPs
KYC is not “sovereign” its becoming the norm everywhere in the world with few exceptions
EDIT: Strong language removed.
Why pay VAT?
The UK VAT threshold is £90k, that’s £7500/pm revenue which they absolutely are above. VAT incurred by the company is claimed back from the Government because Aeza supplies taxable services.
Whatever Hetzner charges in VAT doesn’t matter, it’s not expensed
Your assumption that they -have- to be Ukrainian is baseless and makes you seem like a misinformed clown
They probably got special deals, and, they probably stuff A LOT of users on eah gbps, hence the 100 mbps.
Actually no, this would be an INSTANT and huge loss on their deals. I believe they just now stopped selling a VPS with a dedicated IPv4 for 11,52 € / Year.
Even with 0 hardware costs, network costs, staff costs, etc, that’s significantly less than Hetzner’s 1,50€ / month JUST for the IP. It’s a VERY expensive IP price at scale.
A /24 is like $100/month normally.
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Why are you guys assuming they would buy IPs from Hetzner at retail prices?
Many hosts on LET use Hetzner and BYOIP @ $0.30-0.40/IP like Advin hosting
Funny enough, both of my promo plans that are not restricted to 100 Mbps do get over 500 Mbps, but my special BF plan which is supposedly 1 Gbps less than 400 Mbps xD.
There's no way they make most of their profits on that. Stuff like that is a loss leader.
As far as I know, you can only use your own ips when you colo. And if you do that then you have to provide your own hardware.
Likely breakeven+
They lease 10x /24, assuming theyre paying $90-100 each the IP is the biggest cost driver at $0.38 which is $4.6/yr
That’s almost $7 to work with. If 60% of people on that plan just idle that’s $7 pure profit
Say the offer is one /24 with 255 customers with 60% load factor theyre clearing $1000/yr to support $700 of load
They're using GRE tunnels to get around that restriction.
That's what people here already said. But tunneling all that traffic is very expensive too.
Because they colo(?)
I’m confident that I’m right, they GRE because IPs from Hetzner are expensive
I think they at least break even. With Hetzner IP’s, the loss on each server would be way too high. That’s why they GRE.
You don’t need to own your hardware. If someone like Aeza has hella dedicate servers on rental from Hetzner they can request them to be moved to their own rack or cage in the colocation facility and BYOIP for a p good rate. I believe Aeza even mentioned them using Hetzner to scale quickly because it has little to no capex investment compared to traditional colo
Do you actually know this for a fact? That rental servers can be moved to colo? I have never heard of this mentioned here, ever.
No it isn't.
Elaborate with wild guess and some meta calculus.
If its a GRE tunnel you pay twice for bandwidth, I bet they have a good deal from Hetzner and CDN77, They save a lot of money with Hetzner colo or just renting the dedis.
Most Hetzner dedis are 1 Gbps unmetered.
and they don’t seem to have absurd levels of traffic:
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There's more to it than that. Imagine selling servers from all those locations (Vienna, Stockholm, etc.). Some of them aren't really cheap compared to the same old cheap Hetzner servers.
They basically multiplied sales that way without needing to rent or host all those servers in all those countries.
Renting an additional 400 Hetzner servers and tunneling traffic to Austria and Sweden is most likely much cheaper than actually renting 200 servers in Austria and 200 servers in Sweden (numbers are just for example) to offer actual hosting from those locations, which are more expensive compared to Hetzner in Germany or Finland.
they are bullshit artists that somehow provide a service stable enough to not be problematic
they fucked up when they decided to enable crime. if they didnt, would any of us even be talking about them? theyd still be sailing and we’d be none the wiser