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Aeza going downhill

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  • LeviLevi Member
    edited July 2024

    @xvps said:

    @xvps said:
    9 research.vtbcapital.ru (194.67.28.210) 197.930 ms

    "research" by a company owned by the Russian government.

    To protect you from malice, of course. Think about children!

    Thanked by 1xvps
  • kaitkait Member

    @Kris said: 7ms to the uplink:

    Sweden to London is at least 20-30ms.

    Thanked by 1zGato
  • KrisKris Member

    @kait said: Sweden to London is at least 20-30ms.

    Ok so pick your choice of 7ms. it's not in Sweden, that's the point.

  • zGatozGato Member
    edited July 2024

    @Kris said:

    @kait said: Sweden to London is at least 20-30ms.

    Ok so pick your choice of 7ms. it's not in Sweden, that's the point.

    literally fucking hetzner finland lmfao, as I said initially.

    Thanked by 1Kris
  • LeviLevi Member

    Guys, findings about lie of course is important, but the main topic is that aeza hosts bulletproof hostings and now lethost plan to resurect. Does it mean again on aeza infra?

  • kaitkait Member

    @Kris said: Ok so pick your choice of 7ms. it's not in Sweden, that's the point.

    Says you, is it in frankfurt then? Or Amsterdam? Because both are also 1ms with ICMP.

  • KrisKris Member

    Sounds about right. Due to their ICMP / anycasting, the entire world was passing through lon-cyx2, should have used tcping.

    Not used to carriers pulling that obfuscation game inbound.

    Guess the simple point was yeah, they fake locations.

  • KrisKris Member

    @kait said: Says you, is it in frankfurt then? Or Amsterdam? Because both are also 1ms with ICMP.

    Go back to php and auto racing, or read a new NANOG talks.

    An MTR outbound from a server in 'Sweden' shows 7ms overhead to a sweden uplink.

  • kaitkait Member

    @Kris said: the entire world was passing through lon-cyx2

    Nop, not true.

    @Kris said: An MTR outbound from a server in 'Sweden' shows 7ms overhead to a sweden uplink.

    bad routing, artificially adding ms, who knows.

  • kaitkait Member

    @Kris I wonder what CDN77 has to say :wink:


  • KrisKris Member

    @kait said: bad routing, artificially adding ms, who knows.

    Go google what a GRE tunnel is.

    @kait said: @Kris I wonder what CDN77 has to say

    Go learn what Anycast is, apparently they are Anycasting ICMP.

    Do you have a server in Sweden that MTR's constantly 0.7ms to the gateway and 7ms until it reaches its actual uplink in Stockholm? That's where I got the outbound MTR's. You're being fooled by what originally caught me off.

    People who understand network and routing knows what it means when the gateway is 0.7ms away and the uplink in Stockholm from Datapacket is 7ms away.

    Go do your maths and figure out the location but pretty sure it's been mentioned here a few times, and even admitted by them they just rent Hetzner boxes and GRE traffic elsewhere.

  • kaitkait Member

    @Kris said: Go learn what Anycast is, apparently they are Anycasting ICMP.

    Nothing wrong with that.

    @Kris said: People who understand network and routing knows what it means when the gateway is 0.7ms away and the uplink in Stockholm from Datapacket is 7ms away.

    I aint retarded :wink:

    @Kris said: Go do your maths and figure out the location but pretty sure it's been mentioned here a few times, and even admitted by them they just rent Hetzner boxes and GRE traffic elsewhere.

    Ofc its Hetzner Finland, was just memeing on you thinking it was London. Sweden/Finland is perfectly 7ms away from each other.

  • xx00xxxx00xx Member

    they just tried a low budget m247 copy. but british intelligence pays better as mother russia.

  • zGatozGato Member

    @xx00xx said:
    they just tried a low budget m247 copy.

    M247 has real locations, they only spoof for VPN companies and such.

  • LeviLevi Member

    Well, at least they are knowledgeable in network. A stunt like this requires a set of particular skills.

  • bobertbobert Member
    edited July 2024

    What is the point of them doing this? Doesn't it just massively increase their costs to have to gre tunnel all the traffic? Finland Hetzner is also way cheaper than datapacket London so I just don't get it.

  • mwmw Member

    Aeza has been booted off Hetzner

  • mwmw Member

    Fake EU/Nordic locations are being migrated away on 1 August, and service will be heavily degraded for a few weeks

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @bobert said:
    What is the point of them doing this? Doesn't it just massively increase their costs to have to gre tunnel all the traffic? Finland Hetzner is also way cheaper than datapacket London so I just don't get it.

    @Kris & @kait knows this better than me, but they probably (maybe) could get away with not leasing IPs from Hetzner for each VPS this way? Maybe?

    Since Hetzner dosen’t do BYOIP as far as I know.

    @mikewazar said:
    Fake EU/Nordic locations are being migrated away on 1 August, and service will be heavily degraded for a few weeks

    Source?

  • mwmw Member

    @emgh said:

    @bobert said:
    What is the point of them doing this? Doesn't it just massively increase their costs to have to gre tunnel all the traffic? Finland Hetzner is also way cheaper than datapacket London so I just don't get it.

    @Kris & @kait knows this better than me, but they probably (maybe) could get away with not leasing IPs from Hetzner for each VPS this way? Maybe?

    Since Hetzner dosen’t do BYOIP as far as I know.

    @mikewazar said:
    Fake EU/Nordic locations are being migrated away on 1 August, and service will be heavily degraded for a few weeks

    Source?

    https://vxtwitter.com/mikewazar/status/1818374335725183198?

    Thanked by 1xvps
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @mikewazar said:

    @emgh said:

    @bobert said:
    What is the point of them doing this? Doesn't it just massively increase their costs to have to gre tunnel all the traffic? Finland Hetzner is also way cheaper than datapacket London so I just don't get it.

    @Kris & @kait knows this better than me, but they probably (maybe) could get away with not leasing IPs from Hetzner for each VPS this way? Maybe?

    Since Hetzner dosen’t do BYOIP as far as I know.

    @mikewazar said:
    Fake EU/Nordic locations are being migrated away on 1 August, and service will be heavily degraded for a few weeks

    Source?

    https://vxtwitter.com/mikewazar/status/1818374335725183198?

    Honestly, I’d rather be hosted in a real location compared to the current set up.

    Thanked by 1sasslik
  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @mikewazar why you think it is Hetzner and not Datacamp/CDN77?

  • kaitkait Member

    @emgh said: @Kris & @kait knows this better than me, but they probably (maybe) could get away with not leasing IPs from Hetzner for each VPS this way? Maybe?

    VPN :)

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @kait said:

    @emgh said: @Kris & @kait knows this better than me, but they probably (maybe) could get away with not leasing IPs from Hetzner for each VPS this way? Maybe?

    VPN :)

    Exactly, so this setup could be cheaper.

  • mwmw Member

    @emgh said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @emgh said:

    @bobert said:
    What is the point of them doing this? Doesn't it just massively increase their costs to have to gre tunnel all the traffic? Finland Hetzner is also way cheaper than datapacket London so I just don't get it.

    @Kris & @kait knows this better than me, but they probably (maybe) could get away with not leasing IPs from Hetzner for each VPS this way? Maybe?

    Since Hetzner dosen’t do BYOIP as far as I know.

    @mikewazar said:
    Fake EU/Nordic locations are being migrated away on 1 August, and service will be heavily degraded for a few weeks

    Source?

    https://vxtwitter.com/mikewazar/status/1818374335725183198?

    Honestly, I’d rather be hosted in a real location compared to the current set up.

    no indications yet that the move will be to native locations. they may very well just tunnel to a different provider. one in France perhaps?

  • kaitkait Member

    @emgh said: Exactly, so this setup could be cheaper.

    Nop, just GRE that shit to Sweden for cheap, its worth it. Hetzner is way to cheap compared Swedish DCs

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @mikewazar said:

    @emgh said:

    @mikewazar said:

    @emgh said:

    @bobert said:
    What is the point of them doing this? Doesn't it just massively increase their costs to have to gre tunnel all the traffic? Finland Hetzner is also way cheaper than datapacket London so I just don't get it.

    @Kris & @kait knows this better than me, but they probably (maybe) could get away with not leasing IPs from Hetzner for each VPS this way? Maybe?

    Since Hetzner dosen’t do BYOIP as far as I know.

    @mikewazar said:
    Fake EU/Nordic locations are being migrated away on 1 August, and service will be heavily degraded for a few weeks

    Source?

    https://vxtwitter.com/mikewazar/status/1818374335725183198?

    Honestly, I’d rather be hosted in a real location compared to the current set up.

    no indications yet that the move will be to native locations. they may very well just tunnel to a different provider. one in France perhaps?

    Maybe!

    I hate that they’re selling fake locations, but I hate that I won’t cancel the server because of it even more. It’s just extremely cheap, and the 4GB RAM + 10 GB disk is perfect for a dev backend when doing local development, like a few databases etc

    Thanked by 2sasslik sh97
  • @mikewazar said:
    Aeza has been booted off Hetzner

    This looks like a joke, Aeza account is 100% registered with Hetzner as an individual from Ukraine who avoids VAT yes and if she was kicked out Aeza would instantly close down

    They have more than 500 dedicated servers from Hetzner, Hetzner gives everyone a week to two at most to leave them, it is unrealistic to find so many servers during this time.

    Thanked by 1Arirang
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @kait said:

    @emgh said: Exactly, so this setup could be cheaper.

    Nop, just GRE that shit to Sweden for cheap, its worth it. Hetzner is way to cheap compared Swedish DCs

    Yes I know. The guy was saying ’why GRE’ instead of just staying directly with Hetzner.

    Directly with Hetzner, they’d need 1,5€/IP, so the GRE’s worth it even when compared to staying with Hetzner fully with no faking going on.

  • mwmw Member

    @tentor said:
    @mikewazar why you think it is Hetzner and not Datacamp/CDN77?

    They have said numerous times on Telegram that they use Hetzner

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