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The Johnny Nguyen (GreenValueHost) AMA. Yes, It's Happening.

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  • LeviLevi Member

    @dane_doherty said:
    Look at what I found on the internet. This is from 2018 and has 4 views.

    Sounds like Bangladeshi scammers praising for GVH? What that chanting means?

  • ...i only hear mudjahid mudjahid jahid...jihad?

    Thanked by 1bulbasaur
  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @hyperblast said:
    ...i only hear mudjahid mudjahid jahid...jihad?

    Your username always makes me picture someone getting an epic face-full of man-milk. I know that’s my problem rather than yours.

    Thanked by 2bulbasaur skorous
  • zedzed Member
    edited May 2022

    @dahartigan said:
    Raindog is doing the interview as part of his posting quota, which he gets paid for, so I strongly doubt biloh will pay twice.

    i wondered why he posts some of the things he does! is there a list of paid posters so i dont accidentally read any pp?

    edit: wait how much does it pay? is it per word?

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @zed said:

    @dahartigan said:
    Raindog is doing the interview as part of his posting quota, which he gets paid for, so I strongly doubt biloh will pay twice.

    i wondered why he posts some of the things he does! is there a list of paid posters so i dont accidentally read any pp?

    edit: wait how much does it pay? is it per word?

    Everyone contributing articles to LEB is being paid.

  • zedzed Member

    yea but i dont use leb, go make me a list

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @zed said:
    yea but i dont use leb, go make me a list

    It’s only @raindog308 and @Not_Oles, but there are occasionally ‘guest’ writers that are totally random as Noles is forever asking people to write articles with him.

  • Who's this guy? I don't remember this.

  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    @HalfEatenPie said:
    Who's this guy? I don't remember this.

    They call him:

  • HalfEatenPieHalfEatenPie Veteran
    edited May 2022

    @DP said:

    @HalfEatenPie said:
    Who's this guy? I don't remember this.

    They call him:

    This is the guy I'm imagining.

    I'm spot on right?

  • @Nekki said:

    @hyperblast said:
    ...i only hear mudjahid mudjahid jahid...jihad?

    Your username always makes me picture someone getting an epic face-full of man-milk. I know that’s my problem rather than yours.

    you are welcum!

  • SaahibSaahib Host Rep, Veteran
    edited May 2022

    @LTniger said:

    @dane_doherty said:
    Look at what I found on the internet. This is from 2018 and has 4 views.

    Sounds like Bangladeshi scammers praising for GVH? What that chanting means?

    I might get some from discord who can translate this.

  • RaidForums have been shut down by the police, do you know any other alternative forums?

  • @Hotmarer said:
    RaidForums have been shut down by the police, do you know any other alternative forums?

    Might as well shoot an email to Brian Krebs, though I suspect he would most likely respond in his usual sarcastic tone.

    Thanked by 2Hotmarer _MS_
  • @Saahib said:

    @LTniger said:

    @dane_doherty said:
    Look at what I found on the internet. This is from 2018 and has 4 views.

    Sounds like Bangladeshi scammers praising for GVH? What that chanting means?

    I might get some from discord who can translate this.

    I really don't want you to.

  • emgemg Veteran

    I admit that I am curious to see what Jonathan Nguyen has to say about the path that his life has taken, the lessons he has learned along the way, and his plans for the future.

    From watching his activities on LET over the years, it was clear and obvious that he had serious personal issues. He needed real help and guidance from people around him who cared. In my opinion, the fact that he has agreed to appear here on LET to answer questions is concerning, for his sake. I do not view it as a positive step for his long term success.

    I know a few people who served prison time for computer-related offenses and turned their lives around. Most of them kept their heads down, avoided the limelight, and focused on their work and their career to build their reputations over the years. They did it through simple, quiet competence. It took years, even decades. (There are exceptions where persons sought notoriety after their release, notably Kevin Mitnick and Frank Abagnale.)

    For his sake, let us hope that Jonathan Nguyen has found new purpose and new focus in life. Jonathan will forever be a convicted felon, and that will impose significant challenges that most people here will never face. Trust is earned, and it will take a very long time for Jonathan to earn that trust.

    In my opinion, an "ask me anything" here on LET is a poor direction to go for starters. We will know more after we read his responses here. He has a rare chance to start over. I will try to be forgiving and respectful, to give him that chance. I hope he makes the most of the opportunity.

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  • dosaidosai Member

    @Hotmarer said:
    RaidForums have been shut down by the police, do you know any other alternative forums?

    Breached to

  • @dosai said:

    @Hotmarer said:
    RaidForums have been shut down by the police, do you know any other alternative forums?

    Breached to

    Is that where you discovered gravatar e-mail exploit that you used to send phishing e-mails?

  • fynixfynix Member

    @dane_doherty said:

    @dosai said:

    @Hotmarer said:
    RaidForums have been shut down by the police, do you know any other alternative forums?

    Breached to

    Is that where you discovered gravatar e-mail exploit that you used to send phishing e-mails?

    But that was you. Why are you asking him? :)

  • @fynix said:

    @dane_doherty said:

    @dosai said:

    @Hotmarer said:
    RaidForums have been shut down by the police, do you know any other alternative forums?

    Breached to

    Is that where you discovered gravatar e-mail exploit that you used to send phishing e-mails?

    But that was you. Why are you asking him? :)

    As it turns out, the one accusing others of having brain lesions is the one actually having them, probably a case of multiple personality disorder.

    Thanked by 2lentro Hotmarer
  • KermEdKermEd Member

    Why aren't we asking the real questions?

    Like, are you planning to pay for a provider tag?

  • KermEdKermEd Member

    @LTniger said:

    @dahartigan said: Do you really think Biloh is going to waste money paying

    Even if he are spending 5 000 dollars, it will come back tripled. This LLC has an audience, is very niche, has dedicated "user/worker" base.

    I think you mean $10 worth of ichiban packets.

  • LeviLevi Member

    @KermEd said:

    @LTniger said:

    @dahartigan said: Do you really think Biloh is going to waste money paying

    Even if he are spending 5 000 dollars, it will come back tripled. This LLC has an audience, is very niche, has dedicated "user/worker" base.

    I think you mean $10 worth of ichiban packets.

    Sapporo Ichiban? They are not bad.

  • _MS__MS_ Member
    edited May 2022

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    Holy crap that brings back some memories. I especially enjoyed the 'for immediate release' press statements.

    Good times.

  • zedzed Member

    yea i kinda miss nugs being an active seller on here, it was a lot of fun.

  • dane_dohertydane_doherty Member
    edited May 2022

    His case does really show how draconian U.S. laws are.

    • first time offender
    • barely an adult when he did it (was he a child prodigy? I think he was, in an evil villain sense)
    • paid back the stolen money (IIRC)
    • practically a victimless crime
    • rats out everyone

    Verdict: year in prison, no probation.

    Where I live, if you pay back the stolen money, the case is dropped, and first time offenders almost always get probation, especially if they're that young.

    Meanwhile in Soviet Russia, a lead developer for a major Node.js library runs over 2 people on his motorcycle, killing one - gets only 6 more months than Johnny.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @dane_doherty said: Where I live, if you pay back the stolen money, the case is dropped, and first time offenders almost always get probation, especially if they're that young.

    Where do you live?

    "Draconian?" No. Far too lenient, actually. I mean, here you have someone who's caused a huge headache for people, burned police time, burned court time, etc. And only a year?

    Light sentences are a ticket to commit crimes until you are caught.

    @dane_doherty said: Meanwhile in Soviet Russia, a lead developer for a major Node.js library runs over 2 people on his motorcycle, killing one - gets only 6 more months than Johnny.

    I had no idea the USSR was developing Node.JS prior to its collapse in 1991. They foresaw both HTTP and Javascript and had the insight to try combining them. They had a 28-year head start on the west....fascinating.

  • dane_dohertydane_doherty Member
    edited May 2022

    @raindog308 said: Where do you live?

    In a country that has way lower crime rate.

    @raindog308 said: I mean, here you have someone who's caused a huge headache for people, burned police time, burned court time, etc. And only a year?

    Come on, it's not like he robbed an old lady on the street. Not a single uninsured dollar was stolen. Plus there is a whole lot of mitigating factors that I mentioned. He's no Bernie Madoff. This whole ordeal would've been solved without any law enforcement involvement if it wasn't a matter of policy.

    @raindog308 said: I had no idea the USSR was developing Node.JS prior to its collapse in 1991

    USSR is still alive and strong!

    Comparing Johnny to actual criminals:
    Giga carder Roman Seleznev - 1 year in prison for each $6.2 million stolen and mostly because he did everything he could to obstruct the justice process
    Martin Shkreli - 1 year in prison for each $9.1 million defrauded
    Johnny - 1 year for mere $250,000. That he paid back! Laughable!

    His real crime is that he stole too little and the sentence reflects that. Let that be a lesson to us all.


    After quick Googling, some cases from my country:
    $125,000; 4 years probation
    $260,000; 8 years probation - didn't even go to trial
    $300,000; 3 years probation

    All of them for outright fraud against actual people, not financial institutions (carding hasn't really worked in the EU for quite some time). And it's not like they returned any money either.

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  • KermEdKermEd Member

    @dane_doherty said:

    @raindog308 said: Where do you live?

    In a country that has way lower crime rate.

    @raindog308 said: I mean, here you have someone who's caused a huge headache for people, burned police time, burned court time, etc. And only a year?

    Come on, it's not like he robbed an old lady on the street. Not a single uninsured dollar was stolen. Plus there is a whole lot of mitigating factors that I mentioned. He's no Bernie Madoff. This whole ordeal would've been solved without any law enforcement involvement if it wasn't a matter of policy.

    @raindog308 said: I had no idea the USSR was developing Node.JS prior to its collapse in 1991

    USSR is still alive and strong!

    Comparing Johnny to actual criminals:
    Giga carder Roman Seleznev - 1 year in prison for each $6.2 million stolen and mostly because he did everything he could to obstruct the justice process
    Martin Shkreli - 1 year in prison for each $9.1 million defrauded
    Johnny - 1 year for mere $250,000. That he paid back! Laughable!

    His real crime is that he stole too little and the sentence reflects that. Let that be a lesson to us all.


    After quick Googling, some cases from my country:
    $125,000; 4 years probation
    $260,000; 8 years probation - didn't even go to trial
    $300,000; 3 years probation

    All of them for outright fraud against actual people, not financial institutions (carding hasn't really worked in the EU for quite some time). And it's not like they returned any money either.

    To be fair, killing any witnesses or victims, taking as much in one shot as possible, and ensuring you never disclose anything to police without a lawyer and agreement expressly created has always been extremely advantageous.

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