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https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/fukushima-tragic-legacy-radioactive-soil
Why quoting something other than your original source, that confirms my original statement?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster_casualties
good good u found it
Great, same is true for aids. Why don't we all have aids? Seems fine.
the end is night
I don't even need to scroll down or touch my mouse, to confirm my previous statement.
Don't forget to donate to Wikipedia of course
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools'_Day
Come on guy, you can wait a bit before doing this kind of comparison.
okok u win
That's interesting, but strangely I have not heard a word about it.
Can you link some source that shows that nuclear plants are shutting down?
And nuclear is actually the least "flacky" power source there is, it is instant power whenever you need it. There is no "green" energy that can provide that.
https://qz.com/1348969/europes-heatwave-is-forcing-nuclear-power-plants-to-shut-down/
They are a month per year down for refueling + many many shutdowns because of incidents.
https://www.powermag.com/frances-nuclear-storm-many-power-plants-down-due-to-quality-concerns/
Without flexible energy sources like wind, solar and gas (until enough green power is build that gas is not needed anymore) to cope for that flakyness you would have a lot of blackouts in europe over the year and that for long periods because you can't regulate the outputs of nuclear power plants enough to compensate for outages in other nuclear power plants.
Nuclear power plants are not press a button and instant power whenever you need it. It is more like press a button and wait some weeks until the system reaches critical and did build temperature and pressure.
Nuclear is expensive, more expensive than oil even at this price. The only choice which is cheaper is coal than renewables at same level of subsidizing, but only a few EU countries still have quality coal to keep it running. The brown coal is much more polluting (I don't talk about CO2 here, but the particles that kill directly-https://www.pnas.org/content/118/5/e2017936118) and is more expensive than renewables.
As for scandinavia which doesnt have sun... It has a lot of wind almost all the time and a lot of hydro, Norway could power it all only with hydro.
As long as people prefer to subsidize the russian imports we are all doomed. It will be expensive, will subsidize the war and will be 100 times more expensive due to warming. Maybe Scandinavia will not be so affected by the forest fires or water level rises, because getting warmer there would actually be better for the agriculture, for example, but, overall, the storms and the floods will produce more damage than the "economy" they make by importing gas and oil from Russia (or whatever other source) or by building more nuclear plants even if they would run trouble-free and the storage issue is solved over there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_electricity_by_source
Of course, as technology evolved, the prices for renewables continued to fall. Past studies in the early 2000s still gave to the heavily subsidized fossil generation the lead, but that is no longer the case and nuclear is currently more expensive than any renewable if we take into consideration the real cost not the one advertised. No nuclear plant was ever built according tot he budget, current projects typically run over budget (https://insideclimatenews.org/news/21012022/georgia-power-vogtle-nuclear/ https://www.power-technology.com/comment/wind-power-is-becoming-cheaper-as-hinkley-point-c-project-goes-over-budget/)
Sorry, but that's just not true. My country has 15 reactors. We're lucky if we have 9 of those online simultaneously.
It's a paywall so I could not read all of it, but that was from August 2018. I find it very hard to believe that shutting down reactors in 2018 is what is pushing the prices now.
Flexible energy sources like wind and solar? Are you drunk?
Tell me, how do you get enough energy from wind and solar if its not windy and its -30 Celsius in december, january, february in northern Scandinavia?
With nuclear, you would simply keep producing as much as you need. With wind and solar, you freeze to death.
Really? So things like Chernobyl and Three Mile Island actually took weeks before something happened?
Come on, you cant just throw out something totally random just because you think it sounds good and expect us to just buy it. Some of us actually knows how it works.
A BWR reactor takes about 6 hours after you pull the first rods to reach critical, if you do it carefully. After that, give it 12 hours to build heat, continue pulling rods and take it to 50-70%. Done by the book and with all checks and safety, you will reach 60% easily within 48 hours after first "push of a button".
After that, you can increase output at about 3-5% per hour up to 100%. Not because the reactor cant adjust faster than that, but because protocol dictates it.
A PWR reactor will take a bit longer since you need to heat up the coolant to start the process, you need to reach 500-600F before you start pulling rods and the reactor wakes up. From a cold standstill I would say you are up and running at full steam (sorry about the pun) within 4-5 days.
Both of these scenarios are from cold standstill. If the reactors have recently been running you can probably restart it in a few hours.
And, this is only if you have to start it from cold, and that almost never happens. Most reactors are always up and running so it's simply a matter of adjusting the output, and this is truly just the push of a button. Ok, maybe not just one button, but a few buttons. Anyhow, it is very close to instant.
Shutting down a reactor using SCRAM protocol is measured in single seconds, most reactors go from 100% output to zero in less than a few seconds. Actually, the process is measured in microseconds, but I rounded it up to normal seconds just to be sure.
Most shutdowns are of course done in a more controlled fashion over days or weeks, mainly to give the powergrid a chance to redistribute and get its power from somewhere else.
The problem is that the same green idiots that are shutting down nuclear are shutting down hydro as well, as they think that hydroplants destroy our nature.
And no, we do not have a lot of wind all the time.
And what are the reasons for them not being online? Are they broken, or is it just political?
I don't know where you are from, but if a country had that many reactors down due to failures the IAEA would be all over it.
Imagine the goverment would have told them, the nuclear power plant blow up, please go towards it so we can say you died related to the fukushima incident.
And please make sure you look into the reactor core.
@rcy026 you ask me if I'm drunk after> @rcy026 said:
It is not behind a paywall from my country, so find a proxy.
Did you ask if I'm drunk because you are?
You can simply turn off solar panels and wind turbines in seconds until you reached desired power level, have fun doing that with a nuclear power.
Anyway think what you like, you got proved wrong with sources and start to repeat simply what you wrote before. You can play that game with yourself proving you wrong ones is enough time wasted.
Not quite. You go down to 6.5% of power output before SCRAM and not zero, since you have to wait for the fission products to decay. After one hour you still have around 1-2% remaining.
If you are SCRAMing from full power you still have many MW to cool for over a week, otherwise the core will meltdown purely due to this - which is what happened in both Three Miles Island and Fukushima.
There are 2 ways to look at this, both not good for your dirty energy agenda:
1. Reactors are extremely safe, there are a lot of fail-safe systems. Yes, BUT this means every little problem will shut them down just to make sure AND the process will take many weeks to cool down, solve the problem and restart in an orderly fashion;
2. We do everything to keep them online a la chernobyl or three miles, even if that means running test on live reactors or cutting corners and costs to compete with renewables.
Don't spam please.
Turning them off has never been the problem, getting them to generate power is.
Solar does not generate anything when there is no sun, and wind does not generate anything when there is no wind. This is basic facts and it's quite fascinating that so many people simply ignore it. Me asking if you are drunk was simply me trying to point out that you are totally ignoring this.
And just to make it perfectly clear, I am not against solar or wind, not at all. But it is not a replacement for nuclear, and will most likely never be.
If you do not believe me, here is a picture of the roof of my house. I've been running solar for 20+ years, so trying to lecture me of it's perks is very redundant.
Dear
We wrote you an email on 21 January 2022 about a price change for your servers from the Server Auction. There was a mistake with the database readout, which mistakenly included servers in Finland. But these servers in Finland will not be affected by the increased energy prices.
The price will not change for these servers you are using:
...FI servers...
The good news is that the monthly price for these servers will remain the same! We sincerely apologize for the mistake and the confusion and inconvenience it cause.
Kind regards
Hetzner Online
Hi everyone, sorry that I wasn't here to respond to questions last week. I am going to try to work through your comments and questions bit by bit.
I believe our 30 day to the end of the month policy applies here. If you cancel now, you should be fine. Keep in mind that only some servers from the Server Auction were affected. If you didn't get an email, your prices aren't going to increase. And yesterday we also sent out another email to affected customers with an additional offer. --Katie
We do not have any current plans to increase the prices for our new/regular dedicated root servers or cloud servers. --Katie
There was some miscommunication about this. Some customers in Finland mistakenly receive the email about the price increase. The prices in Finland for the Auction servers will NOT increase. (We sent another email to customers recently to correct this.) --Katie
It may be possible to transfer your IPs to a new server. Please see https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/dedicated-server/general-information/root-server-upgrade/#4-upgrade-without-parallel-operation-with-all-ips-transferred-from-the-existing-server and write a support request via Robot to ask our support team if this is possible before you start the process. --Katie
We don't have any current plans to do this. --Katie
A few last comments:
What's the last day to make decision to cancel the SB server? With your cancellation policy I think we only have less than 10 days to make decisions to cancel timely.