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  • Okay some limits then Max $10.00 vps and max memory of 2GB that way week keep the host as honest as possible.

  • gsrdgrdghdgsrdgrdghd Member
    edited November 2012

    Why should the maxium price be increased? The name of this site is LowEndBox, not "ProvidersSpammingRandomOffersThatGiveThemTheBiggestProfitBox".

    I, as well as many people here, want lowend servers, not something that costs 10$/month. We don't want your 1GB SSD server for 10$/month.

    If you are not able to play by the rules then don't play the game, but don't try to get the rules changed.

  • @gsrdgrdghd Not saying we can't compete, why can't rules be tweaked?

  • @24khost said: @gsrdgrdghd Not saying we can't compete, why can't rules be tweaked?

    How is that a tweaking?

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited November 2012

    @24khost said: why can't rules be tweaked?

    Because this will not be LEB anymore. The site is FINE as it is, stop this crap already, just follow the rules or go away, don't try to weasel word lobbying of your own interests as "tweaking" or some other b/s.

  • Cause with the cost of ipv4 going to go up eventually and the cost of colo, software licenses and hardware not getting any cheaper, upgrading to ssd. Why can't we adjust the maximum dollar amount and adjust a way to keep pv's honest.

  • Not saying I can't stay and play, Just looking at it from a devils advocate place.

  • Like i said if you can't compete then don't demand that the rules get changed for you. I am happy with my 15$/year VPS and i don't see a reason why servers costing 10 times that much should be spammed here.

  • @24khost, no RAID or SSD because they aren't low end in any way. SSD is crazy IOPs and high per gig drive cost, still.

    with ours per each 256 megs of memory you get about 400-500 mhz that you can use but can burst to a full core speed if available. >

    I really like that model @24khost. It seem inherently more honest than a crazy core box with equal share across multiple cores.

    @rm_, time for us to bump heads :)

    This is lowend[box][talk]. What part of that name isn't making sense to you? Look at the contributions and spirit of the community. It's about doing much with little. This isn't lowpricedbox.com or crazyeddiesunbelievabledatasalescam.com. That's the problem in general with the offers. Nutty providers competing towards 0 price point and then failing in dramatic fashion when they offer the sky for nothing.

    It's like the semi-recent ad on LEB for a dedicated server. I barked about it. A dedicated server with all sorts of dedicated resources isn't lowend. Cost as the qualifier was never really what LEB audience was about. At some point some folks must have found it nice to be able to gobble up mythical plans with all these resources at the LEB price point and forgot where they were.

    What we are creating here is a bastardized WHT offer knockoff site with where things have gone in past 2 years and escalated lately. The only real barriers are $7/mo or $60/year and you are in and the willing customers come and plunk down the cash. See this all the time when people post offers above the amounts and then just slash the price to shoehorn their way in (instead of having ad outright pulled).

    Look at LEB homepage offers now:

    LoveVPS – $6.99/Month 512MB KVM VPS in LA and UK
    lowend? Close.

    BuyVM – $15/year 128MB OpenVZ in Buffalo, New York
    lowend? Yes, textbook definition.

    EDIS – 2048MB Intel Atom Dedicated Server €29/Month ($37) in Graz, Austria
    lowend? NO, not even close. Offers like these are part of what I think has gone way wrong.

    Node Deploy – $3.50/Month 1024MB OpenVZ VPS in Phoenix/Germany & 2048MB in $6.95 Germany/UK
    lowend? NO, not even close (4 cores, tons of RAM, large disk)

    xFuseSolutions – $6.99/Month 512MB KVM VPS in Phoenix
    lowend? Yes or close, even has low bandwidth amount.

    CloudShards – $3.17/Month 256MB OpenVZ VPS in Buffalo, New York
    lowend? Yes on the 256MB plan

    StyleXNetworks – $1.48/Month 128MB Xen VPS in Los Angeles
    lowend? Yes, very good example of a lowend offer.

    CrownCloud – $3.50/Month 128MB OpenVZ VPS in Los Angeles
    lowend? Maybe, crazy on the cores though.

    GetKVM – £1.50/Month 256MB OpenVZ VPS in Düsseldor
    lowend? Yes.

    BigScoots – $10/Quarter – 256MB OpenVZ VPS in Chicago
    lowend? Yes on the 256MB plan.

  • VPNshVPNsh Member, Host Rep

    @24khost the reason you don't need a $10/month limit is for exactly the reason I stated earlier:

    The majority of LEB users do not need 2GB of RAM. Therefore I'm sure you could find something that suits most of us for under $7 still.

    I'll be back in here later, posting a new thread in a sec :)

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited November 2012

    @pubcrawler said: Cost as the qualifier was never really what LEB audience was about.

    It was and it still is and it will be. $7 is a good limit. But there is no need to limit so that specs above an arbitrary limit can't be posted. You can get 32GB sticks of ECC RAM today. And you can fit 4 or 8 of those into a server. So no need to complain that you get hefty specs for $7. It becomes feasible for some to offer more RAM than in 2006. 4TB disks exist now. You can get 100, 250 GB storage VPSes for a LEB price. Fiber optics gets pulled and lighted up and you can have your 2, 3, 5 TB transfer. That's how computer industry works. No need to artificially limit progress only to what was possible a long time ago.

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  • LeeLee Veteran
    edited November 2012

    Resource limiting is not an option in my view the only thing you can change is the $ limit, yes it's been $7 for a long time but it can change. $10 won't stop hosts continuing to offer $4 or $5 deals. What it might do though is encourage others hosts to make offers.

    Whist there may be plenty of hosts offering deals I would not touch many with a barge pole, but there are quite a few I would take a punt on if I seen them offering here.

    CVPS_Chris will always offer his 2gb deals because he knows he can sell a ton to people who will never likely use close to 1gb.

    So the disadvantages of a $10 limit? None. The advantages? More choice. Simple.

    Now whether that happens is up to Chief, will it? I don't really care to be honest but it's still not a bad discussion than whining about change.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @W1V_Lee said: So the disadvantages of a $10 limit?

    Unless you consider that the point was exclusion, not inclusion. The point was to narrow the available choices to that which met what, admittedly, may not have been the most clearly stated (yet heavily implied) purpose. Certainly, increasing the price to $50 per month holds even more advantages by said logic, but again ignores the purpose. If LEA implied anything strongly, it's that his attitude was "less is more."

  • But isn't there any room for change? Really we can look at raising the dedicated server box but not the vps line?

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited November 2012

    @24khost said: But isn't there any room for change?

    Hope, change, it doesn't really matter. It's not like there's a problem finding providers elsewhere. Also, plenty of providers here have plans that go above $7, easily found even through this venue, just not listed here. Why change what isn't broken? What is broken about it?

  • Raising limits would just cause providers (especially those who sell plans for $6.95) to raise prices :(

  • LeeLee Veteran

    @jarland - Yup, I agree. What I do see though is quite a few providers that have done really well over time from LEB/LET move away from it as they don't need it anymore, their rep is secure and they don't need to focus their attention here. What you are left with is well, you are left with others.

    Many just won't compete at $7, and yes you can say that's fine and people can do another huffy post about it but sometimes it's also good to look at other ways of bringing providers in to make offers.

  • SpiritSpirit Member
    edited November 2012

    @24khost said: But isn't there any room for change?

    There's no single reason for that. It wasn't years ago when LEA started lowendbox and there was only 6 - 8 known LEB hosts and there's no reason for this today when there are hundreds and hundreds LEB hosts/offers. As much as you state how it's harder now, that's far from truth otherwise LEB/LET wouldn't be overcrowded with various LEB offers - something what we couldn't even imagine only 4 -5 years ago.

    But if you really need something bigger, something non LEB you can always go to http://www.webhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=45 to find something suitable.

    As you're more or less still new here in case you overlooked, start with next URL: http://www.lowendbox.com/about/

  • LeeLee Veteran

    To be fair though, the offers here are getting to the point that you would struggle to get those on WHT.

  • @Spirit I don't need anything I have offers there also. My thought though is maybe we would have less dead pool candidates, as people here are willing to try a newbie unlike other places, and they can actually make a profit not having to compete at the lowest price possible here.

  • vedranvedran Veteran
    edited November 2012

    Lowering the price limit to something like $5 would make more sense than increasing it to $10.

  • @Tez @juan_144

    I'll be making "PornOS" for 24khost then: Debian preloaded with HTTP server + porn :D

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited November 2012

    @vedran said: Lowering the price limit to something like $5 would make more sense

    Yep, and this would actually fetch more uber-lowend-spec offers, that some here seem to so earnestly desire.

    But as a compromise I propose that we simply leave it alone at $7 :p

  • LeeLee Veteran

    @verdan - Yup you may well be right, going in the other direction could have some interesting effects too ;)

  • @24khost use logic. If 7$ threshold was good enough years ago when there was only FEW hosts in this price range how it couldn't be good enough today when there's hundreds and hundreds hosts in this price range.
    And your argument about less dead pool candidates.. yeah, right.. main difference would be that you would want next year 15$ threshold in order to be able to compete with host which suddenly offer 4GB memory for 10$ - which makes no difference at all apart from making this site just another WHT knock off as someone above said already.

  • @vedran said: Lowering the price limit to something like $5 would make more sense than increasing it to $10.

    This!

  • @vedran said: Lowering the price limit to something like $5 would make more sense than increasing it to $10.

    I'd like this.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    Raising the price also won't solve a race to the bottom on price, if people are worried about that. Today maybe it's 2GB for $7 "so it can be listed on LEB." Tomorrow maybe it's 2GB $7 "because that's less than what ____ charges." A general idea I've seen from a few here in this thread is that competition kills the market. So untrue. Competition made this particular niche market. Increasing the size of the bracket doesn't increase people's love of a good deal or a provider's push to give the most for the least.

    What competition does encourage is innovation. Now maybe we haven't seen as much as we'd like, but that's just circumstance and not necessarily a judgement on the potential of competition. If you can figure out a creative way to shave off overhead and provide quality for less than anyone else, you win. It doesn't benefit you greatly to hit the dead pool. Regular income will always be better than a couple thousand dollars in your pocket.

    What this little niche market really needs is some innovation. The last one we saw was SSD caching. So get to work, start thinking outside of the box, find a way to win the game.

  • @vedran said: Lowering the price limit to something like $5 would make more sense than increasing it to $10.

    Big thumbs up to this.

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