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But where to go? Europe is just as bad off with the whole big brother in your face
Middle East? You'll only get killed by the tyrannical dictatorships, but meh.. that's minor.
new zeland is the future!
I've heard stories by many ex-patriots that China is very nice with leaving you be as long as you bribe the correct officials, but then I imagine Mexico would do for that, and Mexico has better beaches.
I don't know about 'new zeland' but New Zealand's future is in the South Pacific Ocean, underwater, just like the UK.
Oh wait, another of my rubbish jokes
Some officials, from what I've heard, some allow, some don't, with the one's that don't, you're screwed.
lol!
Didn't New Zealand elect a Libertarian Government only to go back to the same mess of power grabbing the people?
You mean I don't have to worry about paying for expensive surgical procedures?! That's terrible!
Thread Derail....
Well, Europeans are taxed heavily to pay for it, and with all the jobs going out of the zone, soon everyone can work in the service sector, and wait for the EU to fail. The US isn't far behind, but Germany has started to outsource more manufacturing to the US lately.
I guess that depends on how much service you expect from your Government. It is fairly evenly divided in the US, but each of those sides are very extreme to wanting more or less Government. (Read more or fewer handouts)
FTFY :X
Being sent out by email in a moment:
If there's a drug that has a low success rate and costs a lot to produce, and it's your last option before accepting death, where is the humanity in government telling you that it isn't a financially viable option by removing it from the market? It's all relative. Someone who could have survived under a different system will die under every system. There is no flawless one. When the government pays for everything, they have to decide what is reasonable and what is not. They simply have to, it's illogical and idiotic not to. In capitalism, ideally, the choices are made by your bank account. Your bank account is something you have a lot of control over by choosing what luxuries to live with or without, what career to go after, etc. Sure there are people who do everything right and still fall through the cracks. Every system is going to fail someone who didn't deserve it. That's the reality of economics.
ended up like this?
+1
But then... some systems fail more than others
(OMFG I am derailing more and more
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Thanks for the info Damian. Good luck!
I'm somewhat annoyed.. I'm not sure why our servers will be there Friday morning, instead of Thursday afternoon. We paid for NDA, not sure why it's Friday. Sigh.
@liam You have to draw a line. If you're taking money from ten people, forming a pool, and using it to cover their medical bills, how do you tell the middle aged mother that there's no money for her cancer treatment because the fat guy down the street ate himself to a major heart condition? The idea is that everyone paying in can subsidize the costs but the reality is that you can't assume what people are going to do, and if you're going to try, you have to start telling people how to live their daily lives and deciding where lines have to be drawn.
It isn't always so simple. Someone is falling through the cracks where you live, no matter where that is. Someone who doesn't deserve it is being left out to die. The idea of free market is that they're victims of their own choices rather than the choices of others. Whether or not it works out that way is another discussion entirely.
/derail
What?
@dmmcintyre3 Seriously. Don't we have the second highest corporate tax in the world?
I was beckoned?!
Why do you keep derailing Damian's thread? Why don't you open a new thread for this discussion..
@LiquidHost You new here?
The US has money? http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Yeah those cost less than you think, pennies compared to social programs. Guess I'll stop derailing here too
Well, you have to draw a line... but money and prices are so relative. Just an example: in our country it costs (really really) lot to build a highway. Why is it? We have all the resources - the government would be able to buy the mines, tools (and even specialists and enginers, literally buy them) and everything needed from just the price of one highway, and build a lot with really low price... but that just wouldn't suit for a few interests.
It is the same with everything in this world.
Healthcare is pricy... but what is pricy in it? Why can't those high priced things be cheaper or find alternative ways to them?
For example: as i know, the inventor of abortion by pills is from my country (with cooperation with others as i remember). Even my teacher said that the method is really much better then any other "manual" way. Still, it is not an accepted method in here, while the more pricey and more dangerous methods are still accepted.
Price is just a too relative thing influenced by greed.
(edit) @mitgib is my hero: http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/3507/where-is-the-freedom#Item_1
Looks like it getting far...longer ping to my place-SEA....
I have same concern.
West coast is better from India.
You would be surprised :P
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