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  • jill92jill92 Member
    edited March 2022

    I agree, introducing a fee would curb summerhosts, but the real problem is the userbase IMO. Take the IRC chan on libera/freenode, for instance, it was all good until crazy netops/users started to come in, and started to shit up the place; @DP has a part to blame for this, for allowing libera-staff and amdj in, with chanop status.

    We need to come together and form a better IRC channel without this stupid cycle, and one that is not on libera/any "open-source" network (all are woke). I think efnet would be a good start, agree?

  • FalzoFalzo Member

    @Nekki said: paid in services

    Ehrenmann!

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  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @Nekki said:

    @angstrom said:

    @Nekki said:
    Can I just take provider offers I see elsewhere and post them myself?

    Participants sometimes link to offers that they find. As long as it's done discreetly, it probably wouldn't raise a red flag.

    What about indiscreetly? Just thinking I could undercut JB and offer a $50 yearly fee paid in services.

    :)

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  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @jill92 said:
    I agree, introducing a fee would curb summerhosts, but the real problem is the userbase IMO. Take the IRC chan on libera/freenode, for instance, it was all good until crazy netops/users started to come on, and shit up the place; @DP has a part to blame for this, for allowing libera-staff and amdj in, with chanop status.

    We need to come together and form a better IRC channel without this stupid cycle, and one that is not on libera/any "open-source" network (all are woke). I think efnet would be a good start, agree?

    Literally no-one other than you cares about this.

    And just consider yourself fucking lucky I’m not there. If you mention this again on LET, I will log in and completely ruin it for you.

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  • NekkiNekki Veteran
    edited March 2022

    @jill92 said:

    @Nekki said:

    @jill92 said:
    I agree, introducing a fee would curb summerhosts, but the real problem is the userbase IMO. Take the IRC chan on libera/freenode, for instance, it was all good until crazy netops/users started to come on, and shit up the place; @DP has a part to blame for this, for allowing libera-staff and amdj in, with chanop status.

    We need to come together and form a better IRC channel without this stupid cycle, and one that is not on libera/any "open-source" network (all are woke). I think efnet would be a good start, agree?

    Literally no-one other than you cares about this.

    And just consider yourself fucking lucky I’m not there. If you mention this again on LET, I will log in and completely ruin it for you.

    Are you against Russia as well?

    Well, that escalated quickly.

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  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    Anyone considering protesting this move by cancelling services with providers who pay the invoices?

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  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    @jill92 said:
    I agree, introducing a fee would curb summerhosts, but the real problem is the userbase IMO. Take the IRC chan on libera/freenode, for instance, it was all good until crazy netops/users started to come in, and started to shit up the place; @DP has a part to blame for this, for allowing libera-staff and amdj in, with chanop status.

    We need to come together and form a better IRC channel without this stupid cycle, and one that is not on libera/any "open-source" network (all are woke). I think efnet would be a good start, agree?

    They run and operate the network - I'm just a user who's idling most of the time :smiley:

    Their privileges supersedes mine even if I'm the "owner" of the channel, plus I don't see them having chanop status anyways.

    [13:15] |(Users #lowendtalk)
[13:15] |@JoeMerit   | c|oneman   | heart     | Kenshin      | nobiz    | Samot
[13:15] |@lanefu     | deetwelve  | hot       | kyau         | nuke     | Skol
[13:15] |@Mr_Tom     | DonRichie  | hsv_      | lelux        | nurupo   | smeggysmeg
[13:15] | _dna       | dp         | iczero    | libera-staff | omnicore | Snuupy
[13:15] | AFKnuke    | drepram    | JackFrost | m5zs7k       | petris   | SpellChecker
[13:15] | amdj       | EdFletcher | jiggawatt | Magnets      | pikapika | star
[13:15] | averell    | Erawan     | jlay      | MillerBOSS   | r00tobo  | tomaw
[13:15] | BIG        | extor      | jmcgnh    | monkeynutz   | Razza    | vonunov
[13:15] | Cienisty   | flotwig    | joecool   | Moscow       | Red_M_   | whodafak
[13:15] | CLAB_      | genius3000 | jomat     | MrGeneral    | rektide  | Woet
[13:15] | curly      | HangMan    | JTL       | Neoon        | rm       | ws
[13:15] | CyberCr33p | hata       | justaguy  | niko         | Royil
  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @jill92 said:

    @Nekki said: Well, that escalated quickly.

    Well, the West was paying Ukrainian separatists to kill ordinary Ukrainian citizens, the US had biolabs in Ukraine (to produce bioweapons), and the "Ghost of Kyiv" is 100% bullshit; simulation footage, no joke.

    I recommend taking a look at https://www.rt.com/on-air/

    Which I have no view on due to being uninformed, but please, tell me, how this relates to our conversation about IRC?

  • jill92jill92 Member

    @DP said:

    @jill92 said:
    I agree, introducing a fee would curb summerhosts, but the real problem is the userbase IMO. Take the IRC chan on libera/freenode, for instance, it was all good until crazy netops/users started to come in, and started to shit up the place; @DP has a part to blame for this, for allowing libera-staff and amdj in, with chanop status.

    We need to come together and form a better IRC channel without this stupid cycle, and one that is not on libera/any "open-source" network (all are woke). I think efnet would be a good start, agree?

    They run and operate the network - I'm just a user who's idling most of the time :smiley:

    Their privileges supersedes mine even if I'm the "owner" of the channel, plus I don't see them having chanop status anyways.

    [13:15] |(Users #lowendtalk)
[13:15] |@JoeMerit   | c|oneman   | heart     | Kenshin      | nobiz    | Samot
[13:15] |@lanefu     | deetwelve  | hot       | kyau         | nuke     | Skol
[13:15] |@Mr_Tom     | DonRichie  | hsv_      | lelux        | nurupo   | smeggysmeg
[13:15] | _dna       | dp         | iczero    | libera-staff | omnicore | Snuupy
[13:15] | AFKnuke    | drepram    | JackFrost | m5zs7k       | petris   | SpellChecker
[13:15] | amdj       | EdFletcher | jiggawatt | Magnets      | pikapika | star
[13:15] | averell    | Erawan     | jlay      | MillerBOSS   | r00tobo  | tomaw
[13:15] | BIG        | extor      | jmcgnh    | monkeynutz   | Razza    | vonunov
[13:15] | Cienisty   | flotwig    | joecool   | Moscow       | Red_M_   | whodafak
[13:15] | CLAB_      | genius3000 | jomat     | MrGeneral    | rektide  | Woet
[13:15] | curly      | HangMan    | JTL       | Neoon        | rm       | ws
[13:15] | CyberCr33p | hata       | justaguy  | niko         | Royil

    Oh, please, YOU killed the place by allowing them to place a libera-staff spybot in there; lanefu is not to be trusted, either, he is very left-orientated. Samot is truly a leech of the mind.

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @jill92 said:
    I agree, introducing a fee would curb summerhosts, but the real problem is the userbase IMO. Take the IRC chan on libera/freenode, for instance, it was all good until crazy netops/users started to come in, and started to shit up the place; @DP has a part to blame for this, for allowing libera-staff and amdj in, with chanop status.

    We need to come together and form a better IRC channel without this stupid cycle, and one that is not on libera/any "open-source" network (all are woke). I think efnet would be a good start, agree?

    So you signed up to post this?

    No congrats on your first post

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  • AidanAidan Member

    @Nekki said:

    @jill92 said:

    @Nekki said: Well, that escalated quickly.

    Well, the West was paying Ukrainian separatists to kill ordinary Ukrainian citizens, the US had biolabs in Ukraine (to produce bioweapons), and the "Ghost of Kyiv" is 100% bullshit; simulation footage, no joke.

    I recommend taking a look at https://www.rt.com/on-air/

    Which I have no view on due to being uninformed, but please, tell me, how this relates to our conversation about IRC?

    Meth.

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  • 1gservers1gservers Member, Patron Provider

    @Nekki said:
    Anyone considering protesting this move by cancelling services with providers who pay the invoices?

    I hope not. It’s not the providers fault.

    Thanked by 1kkrajk
  • jill92jill92 Member
    edited March 2022

    See, rizon is the true home to humans (well, Peorth/Dwarf are terrible netops as well):

    14:12 <[CHILD]> calm yourselves
14:12 <Slinky-Eternal> or did you folds kweeri thingys again
14:12 <[CHILD]> this is an order
14:12 <mach7> your act is wacked your whole game is cracked
14:12 <+snEk> i dont wanna break a slinky but thats a good strangulation device i bet 
14:12 <Slinky-Eternal> see why cant you place imagge of creational
14:12 <+snEk> better then a piano wire ...which i actually play for 36 years 
14:12 <Slinky-Eternal> he wanted to make sure that roadway
14:12 <mach7>  snEk!*@* automatically added to message filter for exceeding spam threshold
14:12 <Slinky-Eternal> name wasnt somethin he named
14:12 <mach7> dumb fucking retarded idiot
14:13 <Slinky-Eternal> cause he was already almost bald
14:13 <Slinky-Eternal> an was scared id give them a closer haircut
14:13 --> Jax ([email protected]) has joined #truth
14:13 -- Mode #truth [+v Jax] by BillGates
14:13 <Slinky-Eternal> poor deedpools
14:13 <+snEk> -nobody in the history of irc has ever , nor will ever ignore me .   yer talkin shit bros ;)
14:13 <Slinky-Eternal> i get to shaken rite
14:13 <Slinky-Eternal> its why i dont even try to be a operationist
14:13 <+snEk> im good for news, or a brawl.   you will read what i say  i guarentee it heh
14:13 <+Jax> I ignore everybody
14:14 <+Jax> Then make it so I pick people who are unignored
14:14 <Slinky-Eternal> oh look how many theirs they signed them up as
14:14 <Slinky-Eternal> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtScH-vQ9PA
14:14 <+Jax> This process is the whitelist
14:14 <+Jax> THE CHOSEN WHITWS
14:14 <+Jax> WHITES*
14:15  * Jax defeats trolls in real time with a big fuck you
14:15 <Slinky-Eternal> no its on white 
14:15 <Slinky-Eternal> comeplaiezpommpleo
14:15 <mach7> I personally fought over 900 russian trolls in venezuela on a music site
14:15 <mach7> they all got killed, for real.
14:15 <Slinky-Eternal> oh an they was harassin tryin to say i sold all them out too
14:15 <Slinky-Eternal> where their rides go
14:15 <Slinky-Eternal> WHO puts dis scrapped here
14:16 <[CHILD]> https://youtu.be/CamYtVpoTNk
14:16 <+Jax> I did something pretty metal the last couple days
14:16 <Slinky-Eternal> hey it still nicer here
14:16 <Slinky-Eternal> an they runnin outta their ffouble standard estates
14:16 <Slinky-Eternal> an tryin to peelonKei with trump
14:16 <+Jax> My jaw hinges were starting to be fucked up from being positioned wrong from favoring one side of my jaw too much because my busted tooth hurt a lot when I bit down on it
14:16 <+Jax> So over the last two days I bit down on it like a mother fucker in order to kill the nerve
14:16 <+Jax> My jaw hinge was really fucked up and I was all nauseated and dizzy and I blacked out a couple of times
14:17 <Slinky-Eternal> al i wanted was a DCHrome aplated
14:17 <+Jax> I ended up killing the nerve in my tooth and now with some practice and stretching I am able to close my jaw properly again
14:17 <Slinky-Eternal> hotswheel them said
14:17 <+Jax> lol
14:17 <+Jax> I'm being a 100% honest
14:17 <Slinky-Eternal> so palins still sold coal too russia
14:17 <Slinky-Eternal> an that dude mooved away
14:17 <Slinky-Eternal> wtff ya know good job... smart that one....
14:18 <Slinky-Eternal> i can not demote innocents
14:18 <mach7> YOU CAN EITHER BELIEVE IT OR NOT:   i did music on a DJ Site and whoever wanted to play could play, and if you lost, you die.
14:18 <Slinky-Eternal> no matter how faliced the
14:18 <mach7> and a lot of russians died.
14:18 <+Jax> I'll be fine
14:18 <Slinky-Eternal> nor maliced in there movement
  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @1gservers said:

    @Nekki said:
    Anyone considering protesting this move by cancelling services with providers who pay the invoices?

    I hope not. It’s not the providers fault.

    Providers can pay accidentally?

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  • jill92jill92 Member

    If Xerus sees this message, say hi :^)

  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    Let's not discuss IRC-related matters here because no one cares about IRC on this platform - only those who are there, and they're just there to idle and chat, occasionally.

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  • jill92jill92 Member
    edited March 2022

    @DP said:
    Let's not discuss IRC-related matters here because no one cares about IRC on this platform - only those who are there, and they're just there to idle and chat, occasionally.

    Nobody cares? Are you kidding me? So, you'd prefer a future with backdoored past-Westmere/Coppermine processors (Intel ME, etc), and with JS bloat that sucks up 2GB of RAM as well? Holy shit. @jsg

    Here's a real example and this box hosts IRC services (SCSI HDD; 30MB/s R/W speed, could get better results with RAID 0):

                  total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:          1.0Gi        28Mi       699Mi       0.0Ki       274Mi       838Mi
Swap:         1.0Gi          0B       1.0Gi

    NAME   MAJ:MIN RM  SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
fd0      2:0    1  1.4M  0 disk 
sda      8:0    0   17G  0 disk 
├─sda1   8:1    0    6G  0 part /
├─sda2   8:2    0    1K  0 part 
├─sda5   8:5    0 1022M  0 part [SWAP]
└─sda6   8:6    0   10G  0 part /home
sr0     11:0    1 1024M  0 rom
  • 1gservers1gservers Member, Patron Provider

    @Nekki said:

    @1gservers said:

    @Nekki said:
    Anyone considering protesting this move by cancelling services with providers who pay the invoices?

    I hope not. It’s not the providers fault.

    Providers can pay accidentally?

    Burn it all down. That will fix the problem /s

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @1gservers said:

    @Nekki said:

    @1gservers said:

    @Nekki said:
    Anyone considering protesting this move by cancelling services with providers who pay the invoices?

    I hope not. It’s not the providers fault.

    Providers can pay accidentally?

    Burn it all down. That will fix the problem /s

    Providers could have collectively just refused to pay. You held all the cards. But you didn’t work together, and now some of you are out in the cold.

    So it’s 100% the fault of the providers. You could have stopped or shaped this.

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  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @jill92 said:

    @DP said:
    Let's not discuss IRC-related matters here because no one cares about IRC on this platform - only those who are there, and they're just there to idle and chat, occasionally.

    Nobody cares? Are you kidding me? So, you'd prefer a future with backdoored past-Westmere/Coppermine processors (Intel ME, etc), and with JS bloat that sucks up 2GB of RAM as well? Holy shit.

    No-one cares mate, jog on.

  • 1gservers1gservers Member, Patron Provider

    @Nekki said:

    @1gservers said:

    @Nekki said:

    @1gservers said:

    @Nekki said:
    Anyone considering protesting this move by cancelling services with providers who pay the invoices?

    I hope not. It’s not the providers fault.

    Providers can pay accidentally?

    Burn it all down. That will fix the problem /s

    Providers could have collectively just refused to pay. You held all the cards. But you didn’t work together, and now some of you are out in the cold.

    So it’s 100% the fault of the providers. You could have stopped or shaped this.

    Sounds a lot like victim blaming to me.

  • jill92jill92 Member

    @Nekki said:

    @jill92 said:

    @DP said:
    Let's not discuss IRC-related matters here because no one cares about IRC on this platform - only those who are there, and they're just there to idle and chat, occasionally.

    Nobody cares? Are you kidding me? So, you'd prefer a future with backdoored past-Westmere/Coppermine processors (Intel ME, etc), and with JS bloat that sucks up 2GB of RAM as well? Holy shit.

    No-one cares mate, jog on.

    t. schizoposting redditor

  • angstromangstrom Moderator
    edited March 2022

    @Nekki said:
    Anyone considering protesting this move by cancelling services with providers who pay the invoices?

    I probably wouldn't (even if in practice, the providers that I have services with probably won't pay the invoices).

    I'm not sure that penalizing a provider for trying to sell their services on LET is the best way for an end-user to protest the new fee.

    Of course, a provider may decide to protest the new fee by not paying it and advertising elsewhere.

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  • cadddrcadddr Member

    Can the mods give jill92 a red profile pic for few hours for breaking my immersion in this drama?

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  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @1gservers said:

    @Nekki said:

    @1gservers said:

    @Nekki said:

    @1gservers said:

    @Nekki said:
    Anyone considering protesting this move by cancelling services with providers who pay the invoices?

    I hope not. It’s not the providers fault.

    Providers can pay accidentally?

    Burn it all down. That will fix the problem /s

    Providers could have collectively just refused to pay. You held all the cards. But you didn’t work together, and now some of you are out in the cold.

    So it’s 100% the fault of the providers. You could have stopped or shaped this.

    Sounds a lot like victim blaming to me.

    @jbiloh you’ve made providers feel like victims in this. What does that say, do you think?

  • JabJabJabJab Member

    @Nekki said: So it’s 100% the fault of the providers. You could have stopped or shaped this.

    I mean there was supposed to be Discussion in Provider-only forum so I assume most of those voiced theirs concerns/veto or something?
    We will see who will pay, who will not :)

    Anyway I am more shocked that some providers want to post "last offer" at the end of March. What for? Post that on the forum(s) you plan to migrate too - you will make a big, nice entry and there is a chance that more people gonna follow you there.

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  • jill92jill92 Member
    edited March 2022

    See, here's what we really need to do, to fix LET:

    • Block all incoming connections originating out of any 3rd world country
    • Enable grammatical/punctuation checkers and the user gets a warning if they fail these checks
    • Stop giving a fuck about "ban evasion"
    • Shitpost more
  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @angstrom said:

    @Nekki said:
    Anyone considering protesting this move by cancelling services with providers who pay the invoices?

    I probably wouldn't (even if in practice, the providers that I have services have probably won't pay the invoices).

    I'm not sure that penalizing a provider for trying to sell their services on LET is the best way for an end-user to protest the new fee.

    I’m not saying it is, or that anyone should do it (I’m certainly not), I was just curious.

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @jill92 said:

    @Nekki said:

    @jill92 said:

    @DP said:
    Let's not discuss IRC-related matters here because no one cares about IRC on this platform - only those who are there, and they're just there to idle and chat, occasionally.

    Nobody cares? Are you kidding me? So, you'd prefer a future with backdoored past-Westmere/Coppermine processors (Intel ME, etc), and with JS bloat that sucks up 2GB of RAM as well? Holy shit.

    No-one cares mate, jog on.

    t. schizoposting redditor

    No idea what any of those words mean. Bye.

  • jill92jill92 Member

    @Nekki said:

    @jill92 said:

    @Nekki said:

    @jill92 said:

    @DP said:
    Let's not discuss IRC-related matters here because no one cares about IRC on this platform - only those who are there, and they're just there to idle and chat, occasionally.

    Nobody cares? Are you kidding me? So, you'd prefer a future with backdoored past-Westmere/Coppermine processors (Intel ME, etc), and with JS bloat that sucks up 2GB of RAM as well? Holy shit.

    No-one cares mate, jog on.

    t. schizoposting redditor

    No idea what any of those words mean. Bye.

    Tranime makes you a pedophile, don't forget about that. Remember the incel -> troon pipeline.

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