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  • skorupionskorupion Member, Host Rep
    edited January 2022

    @LittleCreek said:
    I will make it more clear next time.

    The best price I have found so far for a 1 gbps is $2/mbps. So if you need sustained 10 mbps the costs associated with just the bandwidth is $20/month. If somebody knows of a better price please let me know.

    http://www.he.net/

    0.09$ per Mbps (right top corner in specials)

  • painfreepcpainfreepc Member
    edited January 2022

    @webcraft said: Yes, it's marketing but one of the common applications of it where everybody knows the meaning.

    Another case of one server tech thinking and talking AS IF all buyers are server savvy.

    that's like selling a used car and not telling buyer car is using synthetic motor oil only.

    Thanked by 1Astro
  • @painfreepc said:

    @webcraft said: Yes, it's marketing but one of the common applications of it where everybody knows the meaning.

    Another case of one server tech thinking and talking AS IF all buyers are server savvy.

    that's like selling a used car and not telling buyer car is using synthetic motor oil only.

    You cannot expect handholding on super cheap services. However, yes I agree, communication reduces trouble.

  • @webcraft said:

    You cannot expect handholding on super cheap services. However, yes I agree, communication reduces trouble.

    Advertising data bandwidth as 4 TB per month and kicking them out if customer try to use even 1TB , is basically false and misleading advertising.

    Tell me any other LET provider who does this kind of shady practices.

    Thanked by 2ralf adly
  • @dev_vps said:

    @webcraft said:

    You cannot expect handholding on super cheap services. However, yes I agree, communication reduces trouble.

    Advertising data bandwidth as 4 TB per month and kicking them out if customer try to use even 1TB , is basically false and misleading advertising.

    Tell me any other LET provider who does this kind of shady practices.

    I'm starting to think webcraft is an alt account for the provider lol

    Thanked by 2umzak itoshikimonset
  • @BarkingIron said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @webcraft said:

    You cannot expect handholding on super cheap services. However, yes I agree, communication reduces trouble.

    Advertising data bandwidth as 4 TB per month and kicking them out if customer try to use even 1TB , is basically false and misleading advertising.

    Tell me any other LET provider who does this kind of shady practices.

    I'm starting to think webcraft is an alt account for the provider lol

    I'm just having fun playing bs ping-pong with you.

  • @webcraft said:

    @BarkingIron said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @webcraft said:

    You cannot expect handholding on super cheap services. However, yes I agree, communication reduces trouble.

    Advertising data bandwidth as 4 TB per month and kicking them out if customer try to use even 1TB , is basically false and misleading advertising.

    Tell me any other LET provider who does this kind of shady practices.

    I'm starting to think webcraft is an alt account for the provider lol

    I'm just having fun playing bs ping-pong with you.

    :wink:

  • @webcraft said:

    @painfreepc said:

    @webcraft said: Yes, it's marketing but one of the common applications of it where everybody knows the meaning.

    Another case of one server tech thinking and talking AS IF all buyers are server savvy.

    that's like selling a used car and not telling buyer car is using synthetic motor oil only.

    You cannot expect handholding on super cheap services. However, yes I agree, communication reduces trouble.

    Not doing false advertising also reduces trouble.

  • bruh21bruh21 Member, Host Rep

    If it was between being restricted to around 10mbits sustained and single homed he.net or cogent, I would gladly take the second option

    I’ve also noticed the current ping times are nothing special anyways

  • usr123usr123 Member
    edited January 2022

    Wow! The performance of this VPS has really taken a hit and something seems to be wrong with the multi-core configuration - the multi-core score is lower than the single core score. I tried with the Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, Debian 10, and CentOS 8 images and all had the same result.

    Download speeds are pretty poor now too compared to the past.

    Dec 2020
    Geekbench 4 - 9752 - https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/15961827
    Geekbench 5 - 2322 - https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/5569469

    Jan 2022
    Geekbench 4 - 2625 - https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/16457794
    Geekbench 5 - 558 - https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/12028982

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2021-12-28                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Fri Jan  7 09:53:23 IST 2022
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Processor  : Intel Core Processor (Haswell, no TSX, IBRS)
    CPU cores  : 4 @ 2499.996 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 3.9 GiB
    Swap       : 2.0 GiB
    Disk       : 76.8 GiB
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 73.01 MB/s   (18.2k) | 371.25 MB/s   (5.8k)
    Write      | 73.21 MB/s   (18.3k) | 373.20 MB/s   (5.8k)
    Total      | 146.22 MB/s  (36.5k) | 744.46 MB/s  (11.6k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 497.29 MB/s    (971) | 737.22 MB/s    (719)
    Write      | 523.71 MB/s   (1.0k) | 786.31 MB/s    (767)
    Total      | 1.02 GB/s     (1.9k) | 1.52 GB/s     (1.4k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed     
                    |                           |                 |                
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 842 Mbits/sec   | 19.1 Mbits/sec 
    Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | 813 Mbits/sec   | 18.3 Mbits/sec 
    WorldStream     | The Netherlands (10G)     | 826 Mbits/sec   | 19.1 Mbits/sec 
    WebHorizon      | Singapore (400M)          | 297 Mbits/sec   | 15.4 Mbits/sec 
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 875 Mbits/sec   | 19.1 Mbits/sec 
    Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 69.1 Mbits/sec  | 19.1 Mbits/sec 
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 871 Mbits/sec   | 19.1 Mbits/sec 
    Iveloz Telecom  | Sao Paulo, BR (2G)        | 817 Mbits/sec   | 19.0 Mbits/sec 
    
    Geekbench 4 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 3069                          
    Multi Core      | 2625                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/16457794
    
    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 678                           
    Multi Core      | 558                           
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/12028982
    
  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

    @dev_vps said:

    @webcraft said:

    You cannot expect handholding on super cheap services. However, yes I agree, communication reduces trouble.

    Advertising data bandwidth as 4 TB per month and kicking them out if customer try to use even 1TB , is basically false and misleading advertising.

    Tell me any other LET provider who does this kind of shady practices.

    Why do people think I am kicking off people. That has never happened or even been suggested.

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider
    edited January 2022

    Fill out a ticket and I will figure out what is wrong. Maybe the package was set up incorrectly. I have made mistakes before and always fixed them.

    @usr123 said:
    Wow! The performance of this VPS has really taken a hit and something seems to be wrong with the multi-core configuration - the multi-core score is lower than the single core score. I tried with the Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, Debian 10, and CentOS 8 images and all had the same result.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited January 2022

    @LittleCreek said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @webcraft said:

    You cannot expect handholding on super cheap services. However, yes I agree, communication reduces trouble.

    Advertising data bandwidth as 4 TB per month and kicking them out if customer try to use even 1TB , is basically false and misleading advertising.

    Tell me any other LET provider who does this kind of shady practices.

    Why do people think I am kicking off people. That has never happened or even been suggested.

    Throttling the data port to 5 mbps.
    Basically customer is penalized for using the bandwidth advertised with the offer. The customer will, of course, be forced to move out.

  • Imagine the panic if the server is only good for idling & occasional yabs (hope it's at least 2 before throttle cuts you off). It's almost as if this offer is especially curated for LET users.

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

    But it resets at the top and bottom of the hour. And the throttle is 20 mbps.

    @dev_vps said:
    Throttling the data port to 5 mbps.
    Basically customer is penalized for using the bandwidth advertised with the offer. The customer will, of course, be forced to move out.

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

    Thanks for that. I have requested a quote.

    @skorupion said:
    http://www.he.net/

    0.09$ per Mbps (right top corner in specials)

  • @LittleCreek said:
    But it resets at the top and bottom of the hour. And the throttle is 20 mbps.

    @dev_vps said:
    Throttling the data port to 5 mbps.
    Basically customer is penalized for using the bandwidth advertised with the offer. The customer will, of course, be forced to move out.

    So, is it ok to order $3.50 VPS, if the expected data consumed is 1 TB (the offer states 2 TB monthly bandwidth)

  • @LittleCreek said:
    But it resets at the top and bottom of the hour. And the throttle is 20 mbps.

    @dev_vps said:
    Throttling the data port to 5 mbps.
    Basically customer is penalized for using the bandwidth advertised with the offer. The customer will, of course, be forced to move out.

    And what condition kicks the data throttle to 20 mbps speed?
    Any notification sent to the customer when this data throttle kicks in?

  • @dev_vps said:
    Any notification sent to the customer when this data throttle kicks in?

    You'll notice it in real time in the data transfer monitor of your software causing the bandwidth overusage.

  • bruh21bruh21 Member, Host Rep

    @LittleCreek said:
    Thanks for that. I have requested a quote.

    @skorupion said:
    http://www.he.net/

    0.09$ per Mbps (right top corner in specials)

    Also take a look at cogent. Not sure which DC you are at specifically but they are present at one of the tierpoint data centers in charlotte

  • usr123usr123 Member
    edited January 2022

    @dev_vps said:

    @LittleCreek said:
    But it resets at the top and bottom of the hour. And the throttle is 20 mbps.

    @dev_vps said:
    Throttling the data port to 5 mbps.
    Basically customer is penalized for using the bandwidth advertised with the offer. The customer will, of course, be forced to move out.

    And what condition kicks the data throttle to 20 mbps speed?
    Any notification sent to the customer when this data throttle kicks in?

    No, there is none. That would explain why the YABS I posted further up the page is limited to 20 mbps. I just thought the connection sucked, guess not!

    Not sure exactly what the threshold is, but it seems to be if the VPS downloads 6-8 gigabytes of data in an hour it'll kick in.

  • PrivacyPrivacy Member
    edited January 2022

    I'd figure I'd chime in on some LowEndDrama. Overselling on bandwidth allotment is low... Lower than what should be allowed on LET.

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  • cybertechcybertech Member
    edited January 2022

    let's set the record straight once and for all by having the provider explain how the vps can consume 4TB per month, with some math.

    looking at typical colo prices its usually 1gbps monthly fixed rate with allocated transfer , say 100TB , up to unmetered. plenty of providers oversell traffic simply because most wont use beyond 10%, but throttling the bandwidth is new.

    thats whats shown on LET though, do vps providers get different kind of plans?

  • @cybertech said: let's set the record straight once and for all by having the provider explain how the vps can consume 4TB per month, with some math.

    looking at typical colo prices its usually 1gbps monthly fixed rate with allocated transfer , say 100TB , up to unmetered. plenty of providers oversell traffic simply because most wont use beyond 10%, but throttling the bandwidth is new.

    thats whats shown on LET though, do vps providers get different kind of plans?

    You could use 4TB of bandwidth (if you were allowed to) in 30 days sustaining a 13Mbps speed and 2TB of bandwidth in 30 days sustaining a 6.5Mbps speed. OP, is suggesting that it's a 1Gbit port but wait, it's only for short bursts. Oh wait, it's actually a 100Mbit port and you could be suspended for bursting over 100Mbit too often. I would like to know how the provider expects to run a business with such deceptive practices. 4TB is 4TB, nobody wants to hear "go to coloncrossing" for using what they've paid for.

    Thanked by 2ralf adly
  • @dev_vps said:

    @LittleCreek said:
    But it resets at the top and bottom of the hour. And the throttle is 20 mbps.

    @dev_vps said:
    Throttling the data port to 5 mbps.
    Basically customer is penalized for using the bandwidth advertised with the offer. The customer will, of course, be forced to move out.

    So, is it ok to order $3.50 VPS, if the expected data consumed is 1 TB (the offer states 2 TB monthly bandwidth)

    @LittleCreek
    Kindly confirm this. Thank you.

  • webcraftwebcraft Member
    edited January 2022

    @Privacy said:

    @cybertech said: let's set the record straight once and for all by having the provider explain how the vps can consume 4TB per month, with some math.

    looking at typical colo prices its usually 1gbps monthly fixed rate with allocated transfer , say 100TB , up to unmetered. plenty of providers oversell traffic simply because most wont use beyond 10%, but throttling the bandwidth is new.

    thats whats shown on LET though, do vps providers get different kind of plans?

    You could use 4TB of bandwidth (if you were allowed to) in 30 days sustaining a 13Mbps speed and 2TB of bandwidth in 30 days sustaining a 6.5Mbps speed. OP, is suggesting that it's a 1Gbit port but wait, it's only for short bursts. Oh wait, it's actually a 100Mbit port and you could be suspended for bursting over 100Mbit too often. I would like to know how the provider expects to run a business with such deceptive practices. 4TB is 4TB, nobody wants to hear "go to coloncrossing" for using what they've paid for.

    So you rather want to be throttled to 100MBit/s right away instead of being allowed to burst to 1GBit/s for a limited time?

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited January 2022

    @webcraft said:

    @Privacy said:

    @cybertech said: let's set the record straight once and for all by having the provider explain how the vps can consume 4TB per month, with some math.

    looking at typical colo prices its usually 1gbps monthly fixed rate with allocated transfer , say 100TB , up to unmetered. plenty of providers oversell traffic simply because most wont use beyond 10%, but throttling the bandwidth is new.

    thats whats shown on LET though, do vps providers get different kind of plans?

    You could use 4TB of bandwidth (if you were allowed to) in 30 days sustaining a 13Mbps speed and 2TB of bandwidth in 30 days sustaining a 6.5Mbps speed. OP, is suggesting that it's a 1Gbit port but wait, it's only for short bursts. Oh wait, it's actually a 100Mbit port and you could be suspended for bursting over 100Mbit too often. I would like to know how the provider expects to run a business with such deceptive practices. 4TB is 4TB, nobody wants to hear "go to coloncrossing" for using what they've paid for.

    So you rather want to be throttled to 100MBit/s right away instead of being allowed to burst to 1GBit/s for a limited time?

    Download just 20 gb even on 100 Mbps data port and you will be throttled to super speed of 20 Mbps. You do not have to believe me, check with @LittleCreek

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Patron Provider

    I am not going to comment anymore on this thread. The objection has been noted in the ad and it will be changed. I wasn't trying to be deceptive but I can see now that it is. I know from experience with signups from this forum that almost nobody uses anything close to 4 TB. But I will definitely change it. If I could edit the original post I would. No need to beat a dead horse.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited January 2022

    @LittleCreek said:
    I wasn't trying to be deceptive but I can see now that it is.

    Thank you for the acknowledgment.
    Respect for you. ✊

  • @webcraft said: So you rather want to be throttled to 100MBit/s right away instead of being allowed to burst to 1GBit/s for a limited time?

    For my use case, non-production hobbyist things, I'm happy with an 100Mbit port.

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