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  • My view is that if you are unable to hard limit a core on a KVM system then you are using the inadequate technology no matter how popular or common it is.

    If the type of operation the customer is running is the kind of service a backup server is meant to run then it doesn't make sense for him to be suspended for abusing CPU.

    For security purposes I would expect the encryption to be done on the source server before being sent to the backup server in order for the backup server not to be overloaded. If he is encrypting and compressing on the backup server for it to be sent somewhere else then that might cause a high CPU load.

    As far as I am concerned a promise is a promise and a backup server is not something the customer is supposed to be denied access to if they are fully paid up for the relevant period.

    From my perspective if @key900 wants to maintain a rep as a technically competent provider the proper thing would be to ask the customer to give you access to the server and copy the files to a protected space for the customer to download the files, ie if you don't want the customer to be running any code on your hardware.

    The other option is to dd the whole drive image or the partitions to a place where the customer can dd it back onto a new drive at another provider if the data is sensitive.

    Terminating a customer because you don't have the means for throttling their usage of a perfectly legitimate and predictable activity is bad form. It is not as though they are mining bitcoins or something.

    I once had a provider throttle a service because akonadi was indexing every source file and there was a lot of source code files on the system. I opened a ticket with the provider to find out why the service had become so slow as it was mostly idle, and once the provider explained and I was able to track it down that was the end of the matter.

    PS. The amount of customer blaming and excuses being made for providers here is over the top. If @key900 doesn't want the customer to execute code on his company hardware, then he should simply do as I have suggested above and let the customer have his data. It doesn't make sense to diminish one's rep over $3.50. He can even refund the $3.50 as a bonus, subject to the customer withdrawing his Paypal complaint.

  • rchurch said: As far as I am concerned a promise is a promise and a backup server is not something the customer is supposed to be denied access to if they are fully paid up for the relevant period.

    Even if they're consistently violating the ToS/AUP? Because that's really what you're advocating. @key900 technical skills aside, the AUP says:

    Resource Abuse consists of any activity, intentional or otherwise, that consumes sufficient system resources to negatively affect other clients or equipment.

    Should he have been cpu capped? I'd agree with people saying so. But from a simple black and white perspective, he was repeatedly warned that he was breaking the acceptable use policy and did nothing. Then he was offered a solution and refused it. Perhaps re-read the thread? I think you might've missed some relevant bits.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Being given a backup is never a right. It's a privilege provided by good will.

    Since OP couldn't care less and continued to abuse, the good will's gone.

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  • IThinkUFailedIThinkUFailed Member
    edited June 2019

    @imok said:

    Please don't waste our time again.

    When was professionalism lost?

    EDIT:

    And then sarcasm:

    If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us.
    Thanks :)

    I always wanted to try LetBox services but I didn't had the right opportunity. It looks like it won't happen.

    I'm confused as to why @key900 didn't censor the client's IP address.

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @rchurch said: He can even refund the $3.50 as a bonus,

    Whelp

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @rchurch said: Terminating a customer because you don't have the means for throttling their usage of a perfectly legitimate and predictable activity is bad form. It is not as though they are mining bitcoins or something.

    Do we know what the OP was doing? (While pounding the CPU 24/7.)

  • ITLabsITLabs Member

    @hkthomas said:
    >
    Currently I don't have a backup, because the files are in the wwwroot folder of vps, up to 120GB.

    @angstrom said:
    Do we know what the OP was doing? (While pounding the CPU 24/7.)

    Probably crawling.

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  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @imok said: And then sarcasm:

    If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us.
    Thanks :)

    I always wanted to try LetBox services but I didn't had the right opportunity. It looks like it won't happen.

    No doubt a signature placed automatically at the end of every ticket. Not a great practice, I agree, but I'm pretty sure that the sarcasm wasn't intended.

  • angstromangstrom Moderator
    edited June 2019

    @ITLabs said:

    @hkthomas said:
    >
    Currently I don't have a backup, because the files are in the wwwroot folder of vps, up to 120GB.

    @angstrom said:
    Do we know what the OP was doing? (While pounding the CPU 24/7.)

    Probably crawling.

    Right. So he wasn't simply doing backups.

    I understand the technical point that @Falzo raised (and he has a point), but however if we look at it, the OP was abusing a $3.50 VPS, and it seems to me that @key900 was extremely patient with him despite this fact.

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    @angstrom said:
    Do we know what the OP was doing? (While pounding the CPU 24/7.)

    OP claimed he was doing lots of compression or whatnot but I don't believe him.

  • letboxletbox Member, Patron Provider

    Hello,

    Sorry I haven’t much time. First i want to apologize for my agent behavior and i feel his pissed since he was taking the shift all day long alone and dealing with a lot of tickets in weekends.

    Again it seems some people not reading the hole story here . The OP abuse the cpu like a month and back later without even give us 1 hour for backup the data open dispute ! I’m not sure what i had to say more!

    Again i have to repeat the time line over again and OP behavior against us!

    if that so how long you gave us to recover your data before open dispute? the answer is none , don't have dedicated support agent as well to update you Immediately they have other tickets to handle.

    • You open ticket to Sales Which they not 24/7 at Posted on Saturday 29th June at 10:12
    • Then you open dispute at Posted on Saturday 29th June at 10:30
    • Then you got responded at your sales ticket at Posted on Saturday 29th June at 10:50

    All proven with screenshots

    you don't even keep in mind that is Saturday and we are in weekend.

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Enjoying weekend is indeed a human right.

    Let people have breaks, fucktards.

  • There is a such a thing as being innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. So far it is @key900's word against the customer's and there is nothing to indicate that the customer did something wrong.

    This is the way is supposed to go.

    Provider: Your system is overusing CPU. What are you running?

    Customer: I am running just some standard backup software - names the software he is runnning:

    Provider: you usage is still too high for this software. Run htop or some other monitoring and sort it according to CPU and send me some snapshots at 15 minute intervals for the next hour or so.

    Customer an hour later: here is the output showing what is running.

    Provider: You are running standard software, but the volume you are processing is to high for your CPU allocation. Your software can be throttled using this means. If it doesn't work you have the option of paying for extra CPU or you can download your data and receive a prorata refund refund or whatever else has been agreed.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll
    edited June 2019

    This is not a court and, based on my own experience, I will say OP is in the wrong.

    OP's behavior is a common pattern seen from a certain country.

  • @angstrom said:

    @rchurch said: Terminating a customer because you don't have the means for throttling their usage of a perfectly legitimate and predictable activity is bad form. It is not as though they are mining bitcoins or something.

    Do we know what the OP was doing? (While pounding the CPU 24/7.)

    There is no proof that the customer was violating the terms of the service other than @key900's say so. In the absence of hard method of a measurement what constitutes abuse is a subjective matter. Some providers have precise measurements as to what constitutes overuse of a resource.

    At they very worst the service should have been suspended and the customer asked what he wanted to do. Deleting the account was out of order. There are two sides to every issue, but the burden of proof is on the one making the accusations.

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @rchurch said: There is no proof that the customer was violating the terms of the service other than @key900's say so.

    You did read page 2 of this thread attentively, didn't you?

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  • angstrom said: You did read page 2 of this thread attentively, didn't you?

    Too much effort and mitigates the drama.

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  • rchurch said: At they very worst the service should have been suspended and the customer asked what he wanted to do. Deleting the account was out of order. There are two sides to every issue, but the burden of proof is on the one making the accusations.

    I'm glad we all agree and you can see that you were wrong.

  • FalzoFalzo Member

    @key900 said:
    Hello,

    Again it seems some people not reading the hole story here .

    Again i have to repeat the time line over again and OP behavior against us!

    no you don't have too. as I already stated in my first reply I am already convinced that OP is a moron.

    however you are wiggling around all the time avoiding to answer the simple questions I asked.

    1) did you hard limit the OP to the advertised 15% of one core, as your page says it would happen on overusage?

    2) if no, why not follow your own rules instead of suspending/deleting him?

    3) if yes, why suspend/delete him, if already hard limited to what he initially bought?

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  • rchurchrchurch Member
    edited June 2019

    After reading page 2 I can see that @key900 is in the right. The customer was given more than enough opportunity to fix the problem and acted in bad faith. He even forfeited the right for the service to be suspended until he was ready to download the data.

    I'm glad we all agree and you can see that you were wrong.

    I do accept that. My apologies.

    I have a service with @key900 so I am happy to see that he's a reasonable fellow (I assume that.

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  • angstromangstrom Moderator
    edited June 2019

    @rchurch said: After reading page 2 I can see that @key900 is in the right.

    It's always welcome to try to defend a potentially innocent person, but it's also always recommended to read the complete dossier before trying to do so.

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  • angstromangstrom Moderator
    edited June 2019

    @Falzo said: 2) if no, why not follow your own rules instead of suspending/deleting him?

    I guess that @key900 wanted to give the OP a chance to change his behavior on his own.

    (But, yes, ...)

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  • @deank said:
    Being given a backup is never a right. It's a privilege provided by good will.

    Since OP couldn't care less and continued to abuse, the good will's gone.

    T.H.I.S

  • If your condom broke during sex and you landed an unwanted pregnancy, I sympathise. If you went and had sex knowing you didn't have a condom with you and landed an unwanted pregnancy, I say you deserve paying child support for the next 18 years. The onus is on you to ensure you have a condom before sex, and not on the woman to ensure that she does not get pregnant after you had sex with her.

    Moral of the story: you are responsible for unwanted consequences if you had every chance to prevent it. If you are lazy or you forgot, learn to suck it up like a real man.

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    @poisson said:
    If your condom broke during sex and you landed an unwanted pregnancy, I sympathise. If you went and had sex knowing you didn't have a condom with you and landed an unwanted pregnancy, I say you deserve paying child support for the next 18 years. The onus is on you to ensure you have a condom before sex, and not on the woman to ensure that she does not get pregnant after you had sex with her.

    Bloody potassium.

  • @poisson said:
    If your condom broke during sex and you landed an unwanted pregnancy, I sympathise. If you went and had sex knowing you didn't have a condom with you and landed an unwanted pregnancy, I say you deserve paying child support for the next 18 years. The onus is on you to ensure you have a condom before sex, and not on the woman to ensure that she does not get pregnant after you had sex with her.

    Moral of the story: you are responsible for unwanted consequences if you had every chance to prevent it. If you are lazy or you forgot, learn to suck it up like a real man.

    condoms are so 2018 STDs are a myth

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  • @poisson said:
    If your condom broke during sex and you landed an unwanted pregnancy, I sympathise. If you went and had sex knowing you didn't have a condom with you and landed an unwanted pregnancy, I say you deserve paying child support for the next 18 years. The onus is on you to ensure you have a condom before sex, and not on the woman to ensure that she does not get pregnant after you had sex with her.

    Moral of the story: you are responsible for unwanted consequences if you had every chance to prevent it. If you are lazy or you forgot, learn to suck it up like a real man.

    Raw is war!

  • ITLabsITLabs Member
    edited July 2019

    @poisson said:
    If your condom broke during sex and you landed an unwanted pregnancy, I sympathise. If you went and had sex knowing you didn't have a condom with you and landed an unwanted pregnancy, I say you deserve paying child support for the next 18 years. The onus is on you to ensure you have a condom before sex, and not on the woman to ensure that she does not get pregnant after you had sex with her.

    Moral of the story: you are responsible for unwanted consequences if you had every chance to prevent it. If you are lazy or you forgot, learn to suck it up like a real man.

    That was really a great metaphor, but in fact:

    OP got a cheapo shared sister ($3.50 for 15%-of-a-v@gen@); decided to abuse her for days and weeks; sister warned OP, but he kept hammering without compassion; sister lost patience and finally decided to close legs, holding OP's condom hostage; OP: - wanna my condom back | sister: _- gimme 6 bucks and you can have 40% of my c**chie_ | OP: _- no way, I wanna have free fun for another 3 hours searching for my condom_ | sister: _- go to hell, man!_; OP finally panicked and decided to call LET; hours were missed discussing the feasibility of a hard cap on the sister's pu$$y usage to limit high consumption;

    Moral of the story: good will's gone and the end is nigh.

    EDIT: OP's condom is safe with sister.

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  • @ITLabs said:

    @poisson said:
    If your condom broke during sex and you landed an unwanted pregnancy, I sympathise. If you went and had sex knowing you didn't have a condom with you and landed an unwanted pregnancy, I say you deserve paying child support for the next 18 years. The onus is on you to ensure you have a condom before sex, and not on the woman to ensure that she does not get pregnant after you had sex with her.

    Moral of the story: you are responsible for unwanted consequences if you had every chance to prevent it. If you are lazy or you forgot, learn to suck it up like a real man.

    That was really a great metaphor, but in fact:

    OP got a cheapo shared sister ($3.50 for 15%-of-a-v@gen@); decided to abuse her for days and weeks; sister warned OP, but he kept hammering; sister lost patience and finally decided to close legs, holding OP's condom; OP: - wanna my condom back / sister: - gimme 6 bucks; OP begged for another 3 hours to get condom back, sister: - go to hell, man!; OP panicked and decided to call LET; hours were missed discussing the feasibility of a hard cap on the sister's pu$$y usage to limit high consumption;

    Moral of the story: good will's gone and the end is nigh.

    And now vajin hang loose like sleeve of wizard

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  • letboxletbox Member, Patron Provider
    edited July 2019

    Ok it seems few people not even read and just attacking that the OP data removed but not mentioned that the data are there and ready.

    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/2991764/#Comment_2991764

    @key900 said:

    I’m ok you know I cannot just crash someone data with press of buttons even if they dispute on me. He just don’t give me extra time to deal with it yes we did disable the account (not removed) and the data still there nothing are removed. The account set back however no one of my support agent will active the services until i got back i have been busy all day with my home area and haven’t got to work until the hour ago and have to leave again and i have go to office which will be tomorrow GMT+2

    The OP not contact us after spamming our system with tickets.

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