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  • WSSWSS Member
    edited January 2018

    @willie said:

    WSS said: Set it as a module, and don't load it by default?

    It's a hardware instruction, so what I wonder is whether QEMU can somehow trap it.

    Oh you meant CPU passthrough. Yeah. That's possible.

    FWIW, if you don't enable aesni_intel as a module, and unload/etc it, you can disable on a complete-node basis.

    Thanked by 1willie
  • williewillie Member

    Aidan said:

    Keeping the majority & most likely spinning up a few more C31's in the next couple of days if the performance holds.

    Have you done an iops test? I might have missed it but didn't see one in there.

  • lucastlucast Member
    edited January 2018

    @Hetzner_OL
    an amd (ryzen/epyc) cpu option would be interesting and a nice differential (:

    Thanked by 4willie svmo mfs Hetzner_OL
  • vimalwarevimalware Member

    Miners won't last long on the vps with Hetzner's real id policy.

    If I were one, I'd see the real-time cpu and iops graph in the web console, and take the hint. Hetzner is watching.

    Thanked by 2willie klikli
  • NaxidNaxid Member

    Where can I upload my ISO for installing ?

  • williewillie Member

    vimalware said:

    Miners won't last long on the vps with Hetzner's real id policy.

    Right now I don't even know if Hetzner's TOS prohibits mining on their cloud instances. I hope it does.

    If I were one, I'd see the real-time cpu and iops graph in the web console, and take the hint. Hetzner is watching.

    I don't see how that distinguishes mining from other computation such as transcoding. Seeing network traffic to known mining pools is a giveaway, but that can be VPN'd.

  • sibapersibaper Member

    I'll join idler squad

  • akhfaakhfa Member

    @DrFallen said:
    CX51 - NVME https://pastebin.com/wHA9hyzJ
    CX51 - CEPH https://pastebin.com/JZ1N0cSK

    Just CPU/DIsk and Geekbench scores for the 32GB model

    Can you do ioping to these?

  • williewillie Member
    edited January 2018

    Here is ioping output from a CX41:

    4 KiB <<< . (ext4 /dev/sda1): request=1 time=258.0 us (warmup)
4 KiB <<< . (ext4 /dev/sda1): request=2 time=298.2 us
4 KiB <<< . (ext4 /dev/sda1): request=3 time=281.4 us
4 KiB <<< . (ext4 /dev/sda1): request=4 time=337.7 us
4 KiB <<< . (ext4 /dev/sda1): request=5 time=245.2 us
4 KiB <<< . (ext4 /dev/sda1): request=6 time=275.0 us
4 KiB <<< . (ext4 /dev/sda1): request=7 time=443.1 us (slow)
4 KiB <<< . (ext4 /dev/sda1): request=8 time=353.9 us
4 KiB <<< . (ext4 /dev/sda1): request=9 time=258.1 us
4 KiB <<< . (ext4 /dev/sda1): request=10 time=389.6 us

    around 3k iops, very good for a vps but nowhere near the level of a dedi with fast NVMe.

  • hanoihanoi Member
    edited January 2018

    @Aluminat said:
    And here we go, account is disabled again without any notice via email/sms.

    Just like trial period.

    Yep. Except you guys from 1st world or you will be ban soon.

  • d2itsmed2itsme Member
    edited January 2018 
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
CPU model            : Intel Xeon Processor (Skylake, IBRS)
Number of cores      : 2
CPU frequency        : 2099.998 MHz
Total amount of ram  : 3859 MB
Total amount of swap : 0 MB
System uptime        : 0days, 0:2:43
Load average         : 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
OS                   : Debian GNU/Linux 9
Arch                 : x86_64 (64 Bit)
Kernel               : 4.9.0-5-amd64
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Node Name                       IPv4 address            Download Speed
CacheFly                        205.234.175.175         113MB/s
Vultr, Tokyo, JP                108.61.201.151          9.19MB/s
Linode, Tokyo, JP               106.187.96.148          8.83MB/s
DO, Bangalore, IN               139.59.80.215           12.4MB/s
Softlayer, Chennai, IN          169.38.65.84            3.60MB/s
Vultr, Singapore, SG            45.32.100.168           12.6MB/s
DO, Singapore, SG               159.89.192.182          11.2MB/s
Linode, Singapore, SG           139.162.23.4            9.44MB/s
Softlayer, Singapore, SG        119.81.28.170           9.81MB/s
Leaseweb, Singapore, SG         103.254.153.18          13.1MB/s
Softlayer, HongKong, CN         119.81.130.170          8.58MB/s
Leaseweb, HongKong, CN          43.249.36.49            7.01MB/s
Vultr, Sydney, AUS              108.61.212.117          7.53MB/s
Softlayer, Sydney, AUS          168.1.1.212             2.50MB/s
Softlayer, Melbourne, AUS       168.1.65.244            6.82MB/s
Tele2, Gothenberg, SE           90.130.74.151           15.0MB/s
Tele2, Kista, SE                90.130.74.149           17.2MB/s
Softlayer, Milan, IT            159.122.128.84          18.5MB/s
Prometeus, Milan, IT            37.247.53.10            77.8MB/s
Tele2, Riga, LV                 90.130.74.113           12.6MB/s
Tele2, Vilnius, LT              90.130.74.117           10.8MB/s
Server.LU, Luxembourg, LU       94.242.192.2            59.3MB/s
Tele2, Frankfurt, DE            90.130.74.155           45.6MB/s
Vultr, Frankfurt, DE            108.61.210.117          407MB/s
Linode, Frankfurt, DE           139.162.130.8           433MB/s
Softlayer, Frankfurt, DE        159.122.69.4            47.9MB/s
Leaseweb, Frankfurt, DE         37.58.58.140            338MB/s
DO, Frankfurt, DE               46.101.218.147          281MB/s
Vultr, Paris, FR                108.61.209.127          167MB/s
OVH, Gravelines, FR             5.196.90.200            28.5MB/s
OVH, Strasbourg, FR             5.135.128.81            23.8MB/s
OVH, Roubaix, FR                188.165.12.106          42.7MB/s
Online.Net, Paris, FR           62.210.18.40            35.3MB/s
Tele2, Amsterdam, NL            90.130.74.153           32.8MB/s
Vultr, Amsterdam, NL            108.61.198.102          227MB/s
DO 2, Amsterdam, NL             188.226.175.227         91.9MB/s
DO 3, Amsterdam, NL             178.62.216.76           200MB/s
Leaseweb, Amsterdam, NL         5.79.108.33             136MB/s
i3d, Amsterdam, NL              213.163.76.200          88.4MB/s
Vultr, London, UK               108.61.196.101          149MB/s
DO, London, UK                  46.101.44.214           84.8MB/s
Linode, London, UK              176.58.107.39           116MB/s
Softlayer, London, UK           5.10.97.132             75.6MB/s
Softlayer, Mexico, MX           169.57.4.116            3.94MB/s
Softlayer, Brazil, BR           169.57.128.148          2.65MB/s
DO 1, NYC, USA                  165.227.194.167         24.0MB/s
DO 2, NYC, USA                  192.241.184.88          25.3MB/s
DO 3, NYC, USA                  174.138.51.137          22.7MB/s
Vultr, New Jersey, USA          108.61.149.182          25.1MB/s
Linode, Newark, USA             50.116.57.237           20.7MB/s
Vultr, Illinois, USA            107.191.51.12           22.9MB/s
Vultr, Atlanta, USA             108.61.193.166          22.3MB/s
Linode, Atlanta, USA            50.116.39.117           19.5MB/s
Vultr, Miami, USA               104.156.244.232         20.3MB/s
Vultr, Washington, USA          108.61.194.105          16.0MB/s
Softlayer, Seattle, USA         67.228.112.250          10.3MB/s
Leaseweb, Washington, USA       207.244.94.80           17.9MB/s
Vultr, Dallas, USA              108.61.224.175          18.0MB/s
Linode, Dallas, USA             50.116.25.154           14.3MB/s
Softlayer, Dallas, USA          173.192.68.18           15.2MB/s
Leaseweb, Dallas, USA           209.58.153.1            15.2MB/s
Vultr, Los Angeles, USA         108.61.219.200          13.3MB/s
DO, San Francisco, USA          165.227.29.84           11.8MB/s
DO, San Francisco, USA          107.170.223.15          13.3MB/s
Linode, Fremont, USA            50.116.14.9             8.73MB/s
Leaseweb, San Francisco, USA    209.58.135.187          15.3MB/s
DO, Toronto, CA                 159.203.57.38           18.0MB/s
OVH, Beauharnois, CA            192.99.19.165           1.46MB/s
EastLink, Canada, CA            24.222.0.194            1.92MB/s
Softlayer, Montreal, CA         169.54.124.180          5.62MB/s
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Node Name                       IPv6 address            Download Speed
Linode, Atlanta, GA             2600:3c02::4b           19.2MB/s
Linode, Dallas, TX              2600:3c00::4b           15.5MB/s
Linode, Newark, NJ              2600:3c03::4b           22.8MB/s
Linode, Singapore, SG           2400:8901::4b           7.06MB/s
Linode, Tokyo, JP               2400:8900::4b           8.81MB/s
Softlayer, Paris, FR            2a03:8180:1301:8::4     79.9MB/s
Softlayer, Tokyo, JP            2401:c900:1001:16::4    4.49MB/s
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I/O speed(1st run) : 610 MB/s
I/O speed(2nd run) : 716 MB/s
I/O speed(3rd run) : 662 MB/s
Average I/O speed  : 662.667 MB/s

    First of all, i thought i should avoid from German DC , but when i look at this, this is good for my next option to choose, with the price offered, it's not make me feel heavy to pay,
    I think this is awesome.

  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited January 2018

    It seems this beats Scaleway cloud.

    Thanked by 1Wolveix
  • WSSWSS Member

    @default Nice Beaver.

    You can get the Naked Gun Trilogy for like $10 these days..

  • szarkaszarka Member

    Goddamn! I log off for a few hours and LET explodes with an awesome new offer. I should try that more often...

  • CrabCrab Member

    There seems to be a limitation of 10 VPSes per account.

    Thanked by 1Hetzner_OL
  • williewillie Member

    Crab said: There seems to be a limitation of 10 VPSes per account.

    Yes, that was confirmed earlier in the thread, it's an anti-fraud thing for now. Plus maybe they want to not go all-in while the service is still getting bugs shaken out. But ten of the 32gb servers is still a lot :).

  • tarasistarasis Member
    edited January 2018

    Falkenstein (2GB, NVME) https://pastebin.com/63yZBEDF
    Falkenstein (2GB, CEPH) https://pastebin.com/iZh1j77Y
    Nuremberg (2GB, CEPH) https://pastebin.com/EgttxFqw

    Quite a bit of variance on the Online.net speedtest between runs.

    Nominal difference in ping time from near Hamburg to each server

    Nuremberg:

    --- 94.130.xxx.xxx ping statistics ---
15 packets transmitted, 15 received, 0% packet loss, time 14020ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 29.324/32.268/38.053/2.247 ms

    Falkenstein

    --- 78.46.xxx.xxx ping statistics ---
15 packets transmitted, 15 received, 0% packet loss, time 14021ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 28.048/30.929/34.241/1.965 ms
    Thanked by 1Gulf
  • varwwwvarwww Member

    Sigh.....unzips pants..

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @WSS said:

    @angstrom said:
    But isn't this correct? I don't have Debian in front of me, but this is the case on both Slackware and NetBSD.

    Root shouldn't inherit local paths which are ill-defined. This is done for ease of use and the proliferation of local ports/packages. There's no a reason for this to become "standard".

    Same goes for /opt, which was /usr/local, but faster to type.

    I was trying to remember when /usr/local wasn't in root's path by default -- it's certainly been a while. I think that most distributions have this now. You may want to check OpenBSD and Void, but I suspect that they also have this.

    In any case, no need to single out Debian as the "bad guy" in this respect, which is what I was mainly calling you out on. :-)

  • erkinerkin Member

    @d2itsme These network speeds are fantastic. Over 300 MB/s!..

  • Ponury_TypPonury_Typ Member

    Holly 20TB on VM. Fuck yeah mate, fuck yeah.

  • ZweiTigerZweiTiger Member

    Well.. netcup. Well done!

    https://www.netcup.de/vserver/vps.php

    Hourly VPS is ready!

    Maybe because of hetzner cloud? What do you think guys?

    Thanked by 5erkin tarasis beagle southy MikePT
  • erkinerkin Member

    @ZweiTiger said:
    Well.. netcup. Well done!

    https://www.netcup.de/vserver/vps.php

    Hourly VPS is ready!

    Maybe because of hetzner cloud? What do you think guys?

    Competition doesn't stop.

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @erkin said:

    @ZweiTiger said:
    Well.. netcup. Well done!

    https://www.netcup.de/vserver/vps.php

    Hourly VPS is ready!

    Maybe because of hetzner cloud? What do you think guys?

    Competition doesn't stop.

    Have to give netcup credit for a very quick reaction time. They probably didn't sleep much last night.

    Thanked by 2erkin Wolveix
  • williewillie Member

    ZweiTiger said:

    Hourly VPS is ready!

    Maybe because of hetzner cloud? What do you think guys?

    Nice! I only see anything about it on the German VPS page, nothing in the English page or the Rootserver page or the order form/shoppng cart. Sounds like they're just rolling it out. What was the verdict about whether the rootserver cores are really dedicated?

  • ManofServerManofServer Member

    But can it run Windows?

  • lurkemlurkem Member

    @ZweiTiger said:

    https://www.netcup.de/vserver/vps.php

    Hourly VPS is ready!

    Maybe because of hetzner cloud? What do you think guys?

    Hourly but you have to pay upfront for 6 month ?

    and yep 40TB traffic, sure... where and TB on the dedicated servers still costs 15 €

  • tarasistarasis Member

    @ZweiTiger said:
    Well.. netcup. Well done!

    Maybe because of hetzner cloud? What do you think guys?

    has to be. Impressive response, very curious to see how other providers respond and to see someones benches for one of the servers :)

  • hiphiphip0hiphiphip0 Member

    Does Hetzner have add fund like other cloud providers? I'm still waiting for verification.

  • angstromangstrom Moderator
    edited January 2018

    @angstrom said:

    @erkin said:

    @ZweiTiger said:
    Well.. netcup. Well done!

    https://www.netcup.de/vserver/vps.php

    Hourly VPS is ready!

    Maybe because of hetzner cloud? What do you think guys?

    Competition doesn't stop.

    Have to give netcup credit for a very quick reaction time. They probably didn't sleep much last night.

    Here's a side-by-side comparison of the smallest VPS plan offered by Hetzner and netcup (the prices include German VAT):

    Hetzner CX11          netcup VPS 200 G8
1 vCPU                1 vCPU
2 GB RAM              2 GB RAM
20 GB Disk            20 GB Disk
20 TB Traffic         40 TB Traffic
€2.98/month           €2.69/month
€0.005/hour           €0.004/hour

    (I could swear that the Hetzer plan was under €3 yesterday.)

    For me at least, netcup beats Hetzner, not to mention that netcup allows customs ISOs and probably has a nicer panel.

    Thanked by 1Aidan
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