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That doesn't even begin to approach what was said to me.
Lies. I never once edited anything like that into or out of my comments. I rarely edit a comment other than to add something or correct spelling.
The problem is that some people are behaving as children.
Again, I respectfully ask mods to ban @ATHK and @texteditor, or delete my LET/LEB accounts. I'll stay if the mods remove the bullies, otherwise I don't want any part of it. If you have no intention of removing the bullies, then delete my account now.
The only "bully" here was you, you started on me because I asked a simple question directed at someone else, you're the one being childish and pathetic.. seriously please just stop you are being such a big baby over nothing...
Children, to your respective corners for a short time-out please.
If you can't stand what the "bullies" on the internet say, then you should get off the internet. Next you're going to be ranting about reddit and talking about how you love cats.
Assuming you are addressing me.... It's not that I can't stand what @ATHK and @texteditor write (Note: the reverse is more true in that they can't stand when I say nice things about CVPS), it's that the LET Rules expressly prohibit their behavior. It may be commonplace for them to act this way, but they are still breaking the rules by denigrating those they disagree with.
Oh my goodness .. you assume that I don't like it when people write nice things about a provider I've NEVER used? yep very very good logic there, I asked Chris a god damn valid question not YOU! for god sake!
Please oh please stop tagging me I don't give a rats ass what you have to say about me, I don't want to play your childish stupid games..
Please just shut the hell up and get over it you child.
Friends, it's feedback & suggestion thread! Everyone says or do some stupid thing sometimes, but it's no need to go into some drastic actions or even leave community because of this. With cultural and all other differences let's have some understanding for each other and calm down. Everyone, please.
Please delete my LET account. I no longer wish to be associated with LET.
Not going to happen.
If you have anything else to say on this, please do it in the Cest Pit!
Hope that you don't go anywhere @jimpop, I know I appreciated reading your no-nonsense posts.
I am rather glad I get emailed every time this thread gets updated. It gives me a lot of fun things to read at the end of a stressful day.
Regarding actual site feedback however:
Those are the only things that I can provide as feedback at this time, otherwise Vanilla is great; and the site is working great so far. Pages load rather fast and there is nothing you can do about the community having a trollish content, which is just how the internet is now. I would not trade my daily amusement (see above) for anything however.
@HardCloud: thank you very much for your feedback! It is appreciated!
You are not the only one having issues with Vanilla. Me and Spirit had discussed the (many) shortcomings long before. However, a solution is not very simple. Development of Vanilla is extremely slow and is not a priority of the development team. Not to dismiss their effort, but they are focused on their "premium" offering. They offer a hosted infrastructure (where, ironically enough, they couldn't handle LET).
So, this basically gives us three options:
As you see, any real solution takes quite some time.
Now, I'm just going to throw this out there, but promise not to pin this on me. This is just an idea I've been having and it may very well never happen. Maybe it doesn't even fit LET's identity.
I've been meaning to start testing with alternative forum software and see whether I could replicate part of LET's behavior, like the front page and the layout of the threads, by using modules and modifying the layout. Due to the busy period before Christmas and the time the testing will take, I haven't got time to do this now. I'm planning on doing this in the new year. If this test will succeed, I will discuss this with jbiloh and SysAdmin to see whether it's an option to switch and migrate.
So, there you have it :-) I'm not going to ignore these issues (there are many more, BTW), but I'm afraid we can't fix them soon either :-(
Of course! I just wanted to make sure these issues were already known, have one more as well:
As per moving to another forum software; I don't think it would fit this site very well. The supported options are as follows, each with their own drawbacks for this type of community:
The options you mentioned do not include IP.Board, which is what I am currently considering. I have one (small) forum myself which runs that and I have to say, it works very well. It will solve almost every issues we have as administrators/moderators. It also has a solid front-end. However, I want to keep the current style (the single feed on the front page) and the current post layout (no unnecessary padding). Other than that, most of the functionality we have here is available there as well: thanks button, quote selection, multi-quote, quick reply, etc.
There's plenty other options available as well, including open source ones. However, most of then wouldn't fit. I'll just have to see and dig around a bit. For now, Vanilla will have to do. And maybe fixing vanilla is an option. It can be forked on GitHub, so...
Good point, I'm going to fork it now and see what I can't chock up, maybe put some pull requests in. Do you guys have your own fork of it yet, or should I just go off the official one?
We don't have our own fork. I have to add, though: most of the functionality that's broken in plugin functionality. Plain Vanilla doesn't do much. We have like 18 plugins to get what we want.
Shame, any list or collection of those pushed somewhere that I can try and work out the kinks on a similar system to the one here?
I don't even know where they all come from. Best bet is to try the Vanilla repositories and work it out from there. Or use the HTML sources and see what's included. Maybe the source code has some references.
Yeah... base Vanilla running on PHP-latest-trunk + Apache2.4-latest works just fine, I'm not seeing half the issues I'm seeing here, so I'm not entirely sure what the issue is or how to track it down at this point. I'd be quick to jump on the plugins, so I'm trying to source those out now.
This forum has high traffic.
I will admit that the quote bug is annoying.
I think it has something to do with type of browsers used to access LET.
I'm using opera and have no problem with it.
I can't reproduce the quote bug on the latest Vanilla, PHP and Apache off of github / cvs. I'm trying to source out all the plugins now to see if one of those is causing the issue, but it doesn't seem like base Vanilla is doing it.
Whoa, another Opera user. Man, we are rare.
@hardcloud the full response quote feature is provided by a plugin.
Yeah, I got that plugin. Got the polls one that was being discussed, and a few of the other ones (thanks, profile seperation, oauth, etc.) Just trying to find plugins with similar functionality to the ones here, since nobody had a list handy.
Here are the details on the quote plugin we're using:
Quotes Adds an option to each comment for users to easily quote each other.
Version 1.6.6|Requires: Vanilla Version 2.1a|By Tim Gunter
Ahh thanks, I'll switch out the quote plugin I was using then, was a different one with identical functionality i found off GitHub.
If yours works we could switch, I just want something that functions properly. Or if you're able to fix ours that would be amazing.
Discourse?
Oh, me likes already! I'll definitely give that a try. It looks at lot like vanilla. Hopefully it has more developer focus and better features.
EDIT: Oh boy, it's RoR...
Yup, have fun with Ruby!