Vultr $2.50 for 512MB

teamacc

@rm_ said:
He wants the retarded thing like at DO where the kernel is external to VPS for whatever stupid reason

I think DO phased that out about a gazillion years ago. @jarland?

miau

@raindog308 said:

miau said: Confusing panel, but well whatever.

Compared to what?

Linode or DO.
The way Vultr's menu panel for account level and instance level management placed at same xy position (or very near) but different page is confusing.

Solus is easiest to use. But simply because its lack of feature.

@angstrom said:

miau said: No kernel management. Not a big loss but would be nice to have.

What do you mean by "No kernel management"? Doesn't the VPS run an OS with a kernel?

The ability to swap kernel to boot from control panel. For normal use there is not much use. I dont know what the other guy talk about that feature on DO, because last I tried it doesnt even work for me.

But in linode its very useful when your project involves reproducing an environment from multiple distro version with different kernel version.

raindog308

miau said: But simply because its lack of feature.

Ha ha, true.

miau said: But in linode its very useful when your project involves reproducing an environment from multiple distro version with different kernel version.

I agree that being able to boot off different volumes is nice. DO and Vultr let you add block storage to create additional volumes, but you can't boot off them.

Maounique

johnnymatt said: Ehmmm. What do you pretend from unmanaged, (unless you talked about managed services) even a bottle of Good Italian Wine ??? Cmon

I pretend to not charge me french VAT when I order from Romania, I register as a company and pay from company's bank account, I have this stupid idea to expect them to obey the law. The automated guy kept asking me for proof I own the company which should be clear already since no bank in EU opens an account in a non-existent company name, nor does any company which I dont own give me access to their bank account.
Also, after giving up and registering as an individual, I also expect them to charge me Romanian, not French VAT, stupid me, they didnt even pretend the reason is that I didn't prove I am Romanian.
Do I ask support too much to obey the law and change their stupid and illegal automated system? They did so after more than a year while when I pinged them i kept getting automated answers to prove with easily forgeable papers I own the company.

ricardo said: Odd pricing, though. I topped up with $10 and got another +$20 credit. Effectively I'm paying $10 for the year.
They must be banking on the idea of customer retention and liking their service, and/or there'll be a price hike somewhere along the line.

Same thing here, just that I run multiple instances. I don't seem to be limited in numbers of them so far.

MrKaruppu said: or virtual child pornography

I never understood exactly what that means. People seem to understand by it cartoons or 3d CGI stuff which I believe is wrong, since such things do not harm any child when are produced and most japanese hentai would look like it anyway. Maybe there is another meaning which escapes me.

ricardo

Maounique said: Same thing here, just that I run multiple instances. I don't seem to be limited in numbers of them so far.

Oh? I contacted them about it, saying I'd like one in each of their locations so ($2.50 x 12 x 15 locations, $450 of easy business), but apparently the limit is a hard one. Bastards.

Maounique

Bah, sorry, I thought you mean aruba.

stab

@ricardo said:

Maounique said: Same thing here, just that I run multiple instances. I don't seem to be limited in numbers of them so far.

Oh? I contacted them about it, saying I'd like one in each of their locations so ($2.50 x 12 x 15 locations, $450 of easy business), but apparently the limit is a hard one. Bastards.

Might be $450 revenue but doesn't it seem as though this $2.5/512MB offer is a loss leader?

Baris

Why limit this on 2 instances? Without limitation this would be great for an own lowend CDN :-)

dedicados

Baris said: own lowend CDN :-)

wut!

own lowend anything to do with idle vps....

sin

I know everyone is excited about the $2.50 offering...but I'm just as happy with the resource upgrades :-).

emperor

The only thing i dont like in the panel, is that there is no option to choose hdd type like on SolusVM, so thats said i cant install my fav distro slackware without making initrd.gz and tinkering lilo config, and that is more time consuming. Other than that is very easy to use and simple. Also their bonus reff signups promo for now is ones of the greatest promo we seen in a while, they are also marketing wise for the company. We've seen lot of users with reff links around asking for help, i have it my self included in my signature, its not hurting to have some credits from it. With that, one can have 2 small instances for years depending on the ppl signups which is great.

angstrom

emperor said: The only thing i dont like in the panel, is that there is no option to choose hdd type like on SolusVM, so thats said i cant install my fav distro slackware without making initrd.gz and tinkering lilo config, and that is more time consuming. Other than that is very easy to use and simple.

Okay, I see, so the disk driver is fixed in advance as virtio -- there's no way to choose ide. Yes, that's a disadvantage for Slackware.

WSS

I have idling VPS that have no purpose right now, but for $2.50, I still want one. What the hell, LET?!

gustavargas

OMFG

willie

WSS said: but for $2.50, I still want one.

Use someone's aff code and they're free for 8 months

Fwiw I just compiled ffmpeg on mine, 15m9s user cpu, 27s sys, 16m11s total time. That's pretty good, it's around 3 minutes on four E3/i7 cores which would be around 12 cpu minutes at substantially higher frequency. I guess Vultr's Broadwell cpu is beating the Ivy Bridge/Haswell in ipc.

I think I'll spin up a fancy multicore Vultr and try it on that.

WSS

@willie I signed up w/o an aff link, never used the account, then signed under an affiliate and never got my credit.

andredoc

@WSS said:
@willie I signed up w/o an aff link, never used the account, then signed under an affiliate and never got my credit.

Same here :S

miau

@WSS said:
@willie I signed up w/o an aff link, never used the account, then signed under an affiliate and never got my credit.

Iirc you dont receive the credit imideately.
Look at your aff link page they stated when the free credit will be paid out.

WSS

@miau said:
Look at your aff link page they stated when the free credit will be paid out.

Not that. The $20 credit for new customers, which technically, we were.

willie

I signed up a year or so ago with the $30 coupon offered at the time, that expired a year later. More recently I put in some other coupon that was $20 for one month, and that worked.

rincewind

eva2000 said: ooh nice probably Intel Xeon E5-2640v4 Broadwell-EP 2.4Ghz or Xeon E5-2630v3 Haswell-EP 2.4Ghz then

My last Broadwell at Vultr had 3dnowprefetch which is rare for Intel processors. I thought only some Baytrail processors had them. Don't know enough about individual processors to guess exactly which one though.

EDIT: Wouldn't it be weird if Vultr took some low-power Atom's and overclocked them. Just a thought.

tmwc

$30/yr for a bite of prem Vultr cloud. Not bad.

eva2000

rincewind said: My last Broadwell at Vultr had 3dnowprefetch which is rare for Intel processors. I thought only some Baytrail processors had them. Don't know enough about individual processors to guess exactly which one though.

EDIT: Wouldn't it be weird if Vultr took some low-power Atom's and overclocked them. Just a thought.

where you seeing 3dnowprefetch ?

rincewind

eva2000 said: where you seeing 3dnowprefetch ?

cat /proc/cpuinfo under flags.

EDIT: I use the flags to figure out the CPU family. With avx2 its atleast Haswell. With rdseed its atleast Broadwell.

jar

@teamacc said:

@rm_ said:
He wants the retarded thing like at DO where the kernel is external to VPS for whatever stupid reason

I think DO phased that out about a gazillion years ago. @jarland?

Yeah. There's a bridge method for old droplets where you just set kernel to grub loader. New droplets have no kernel selection box. I can only assume original intent was to copy linode.

Disclaimer: Read the article about changing kernels if you have an old instance running grub 1, before setting kernel to grub loader. Workaround for event that occurs for a small number of users is outlined there.

eva2000

@rincewind said:

eva2000 said: where you seeing 3dnowprefetch ?

cat /proc/cpuinfo under flags.

EDIT: I use the flags to figure out the CPU family. With avx2 its atleast Haswell. With rdseed its atleast Broadwell.

if you have a newer GCC compiler version access like 5.3+ or 6.2+ you can use it to have the march=native detected cpu family - not entirely accurate unless you use the latest GCC compiler version and it supports that specific cpu family. So older GCC versions might not accurately report the cpu family

i.e. on my Centmin Mod LEMP 123.09beta01 with optionally supported GCC 6.2.1, I see the following on 1GB Vultr VPS - take note of march/tune reported values on CentOS 6.8 64bit system:

gcc -c -Q -march=native --help=target | egrep 'march|mtune='
  -march=                               broadwell
  -mtune=                               broadwell

full output

gcc -c -Q -march=native --help=target
The following options are target specific:
  -m128bit-long-double                  [disabled]
  -m16                                  [disabled]
  -m32                                  [disabled]
  -m3dnow                               [disabled]
  -m3dnowa                              [disabled]
  -m64                                  [enabled]
  -m80387                               [enabled]
  -m8bit-idiv                           [disabled]
  -m96bit-long-double                   [enabled]
  -mabi=                                sysv
  -mabm                                 [enabled]
  -maccumulate-outgoing-args            [disabled]
  -maddress-mode=                       short
  -madx                                 [disabled]
  -maes                                 [enabled]
  -malign-data=                         compat
  -malign-double                        [disabled]
  -malign-functions=                    0
  -malign-jumps=                        0
  -malign-loops=                        0
  -malign-stringops                     [enabled]
  -mandroid                             [disabled]
  -march=                               broadwell
  -masm=                                att
  -mavx                                 [enabled]
  -mavx2                                [enabled]
  -mavx256-split-unaligned-load         [disabled]
  -mavx256-split-unaligned-store        [disabled]
  -mavx512bw                            [disabled]
  -mavx512cd                            [disabled]
  -mavx512dq                            [disabled]
  -mavx512er                            [disabled]
  -mavx512f                             [disabled]
  -mavx512ifma                          [disabled]
  -mavx512pf                            [disabled]
  -mavx512vbmi                          [disabled]
  -mavx512vl                            [disabled]
  -mbionic                              [disabled]
  -mbmi                                 [enabled]
  -mbmi2                                [enabled]
  -mbranch-cost=                        0
  -mcld                                 [disabled]
  -mclflushopt                          [disabled]
  -mclwb                                [disabled]
  -mclzero                              [disabled]
  -mcmodel=                             32
  -mcpu=                      
  -mcrc32                               [disabled]
  -mcx16                                [enabled]
  -mdispatch-scheduler                  [disabled]
  -mdump-tune-features                  [disabled]
  -mf16c                                [enabled]
  -mfancy-math-387                      [enabled]
  -mfentry                              [enabled]
  -mfma                                 [enabled]
  -mfma4                                [disabled]
  -mforce-drap                          [disabled]
  -mfp-ret-in-387                       [enabled]
  -mfpmath=                             387
  -mfsgsbase                            [enabled]
  -mfused-madd                
  -mfxsr                                [enabled]
  -mglibc                               [enabled]
  -mhard-float                          [enabled]
  -mhle                                 [disabled]
  -miamcu                               [disabled]
  -mieee-fp                             [enabled]
  -mincoming-stack-boundary=            0
  -minline-all-stringops                [disabled]
  -minline-stringops-dynamically        [disabled]
  -mintel-syntax              
  -mlarge-data-threshold=               0x10000
  -mlong-double-128                     [disabled]
  -mlong-double-64                      [disabled]
  -mlong-double-80                      [enabled]
  -mlwp                                 [disabled]
  -mlzcnt                               [enabled]
  -mmemcpy-strategy=          
  -mmemset-strategy=          
  -mmitigate-rop                        [disabled]
  -mmmx                                 [enabled]
  -mmovbe                               [enabled]
  -mmpx                                 [disabled]
  -mms-bitfields                        [disabled]
  -mmusl                                [disabled]
  -mmwaitx                              [disabled]
  -mno-align-stringops                  [disabled]
  -mno-default                          [disabled]
  -mno-fancy-math-387                   [disabled]
  -mno-push-args                        [disabled]
  -mno-red-zone                         [disabled]
  -mno-sse4                             [disabled]
  -mnop-mcount                          [disabled]
  -momit-leaf-frame-pointer             [disabled]
  -mpc32                                [disabled]
  -mpc64                                [disabled]
  -mpc80                                [disabled]
  -mpclmul                              [enabled]
  -mpcommit                             [disabled]
  -mpku                                 [disabled]
  -mpopcnt                              [enabled]
  -mprefer-avx128                       [disabled]
  -mpreferred-stack-boundary=           0
  -mprefetchwt1                         [disabled]
  -mprfchw                              [disabled]
  -mpush-args                           [enabled]
  -mrdrnd                               [enabled]
  -mrdseed                              [disabled]
  -mrecip                               [disabled]
  -mrecip=                    
  -mrecord-mcount                       [disabled]
  -mred-zone                            [enabled]
  -mregparm=                            0
  -mrtd                                 [disabled]
  -mrtm                                 [disabled]
  -msahf                                [enabled]
  -msha                                 [disabled]
  -mskip-rax-setup                      [disabled]
  -msoft-float                          [disabled]
  -msse                                 [enabled]
  -msse2                                [enabled]
  -msse2avx                             [disabled]
  -msse3                                [enabled]
  -msse4                                [enabled]
  -msse4.1                              [enabled]
  -msse4.2                              [enabled]
  -msse4a                               [disabled]
  -msse5                      
  -msseregparm                          [disabled]
  -mssse3                               [enabled]
  -mstack-arg-probe                     [disabled]
  -mstack-protector-guard=              tls
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  -mstringop-strategy=                  [default]
  -mstv                                 [disabled]
  -mtbm                                 [disabled]
  -mtls-dialect=                        gnu
  -mtls-direct-seg-refs                 [enabled]
  -mtune-ctrl=                
  -mtune=                               broadwell
  -muclibc                              [disabled]
  -mveclibabi=                          [default]
  -mvect8-ret-in-mem                    [disabled]
  -mvzeroupper                          [disabled]
  -mx32                                 [disabled]
  -mxop                                 [disabled]
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  -mxsavec                              [disabled]
  -mxsaveopt                            [enabled]
  -mxsaves                              [disabled]

interesting if Broadwell supports RDSEED, my GCC 6.2.1 is reporting Vultr cpu as Broadwell but with RDSEED disabled http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxMzE. So could be Haswell based ?

cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 6
model           : 61
model name      : Virtual CPU a7769a6388d5
stepping        : 2
microcode       : 1
cpu MHz         : 2394.454
cache size      : 4096 KB
physical id     : 0
siblings        : 1
core id         : 0
cpu cores       : 1
apicid          : 0
initial apicid  : 0
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 13
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc up rep_good xtopology unfair_spinlock pni pclmulqdq ssse3 fma cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm arat xsaveopt fsgsbase bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid
bogomips        : 4788.90
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64

rincewind

eva2000 said: interesting if Broadwell supports RDSEED, my GCC 6.2.1 is reporting Vultr cpu as Broadwell but with RDSEED disabled http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxMzE. So could be Haswell based ?

Without RDSEED or ADX/ADCX, its likely Haswell.

I usually compile binaries on my machine (ArchLinux with gcc-6.3.1) based on server family and push them out. For local usage, definitely -march=native -mtune=native

EDIT: The difference at the instruction set level between broadwell/haswell isn't much. So for Vultr, you could just compile with -march=haswell -mtune=haswell.

J1021

@WSS said:

@miau said:
Look at your aff link page they stated when the free credit will be paid out.

Not that. The $20 credit for new customers, which technically, we were.

Contact support and explain how your attempt to defraud them wasn't successful - they'll be able to help.

didtav

@serverian said:

@didtav said:
So cheap, I buy one because it is cheap not because I need it. Vultr has nicer looking website than linode, and the price is also cheaper. So yeah, vultr win.

Say cheap one more time for me, please.

cheap

Amitz

didtav said: cheap