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Apparently we're banned for fake reviews
Hello LET,
I know this may be long, but I had to explain and hope that you will read it. I've used separators to make it easier to follow 
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Some of you may already know we've been banned from WHT for some time, and only recently was I allowed back (I didn't realize I wasn't allowed to post on behalf of BlueVM) just as a personal account. Shortly after this we got a review from a dedicated customer which has been locked/removed now apparently. Anyway, when we were asked to open a ticket I did.
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"bear", the "community leader" who appears to be power hungry, decides to ask questions regarding why the prices were different, why they were not listed as dedicated in the product area, why we provided discounts, how did did he manually pay for the service, etc.
This is obviously offtopic questions which were completely irrelevant to a review. But we did provide proof:
1. Screenshots of the client area with certain things censored.
2. Their names and locations for them to IP check.
3. Why they got discounts and who bought addons.
We even offered to show Paypal proof that they paid for the service.
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They obviously weren't interested because everything that I said kept going back into why this and why that as if they're some kind of police force.
At the end, after 2-3 days of arguing. They decided to say:
`As mentioned, your account has been disabled for participating in a rather questionable series of "reviews" that appear to have been orchestrated by your company or your personally. BlueVM will remain banned at WHT, and if we see any more of this nonsense, the odds of the domain being censored are quite real.
Good luck to you on other forums, but we will not tolerate this here.`
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I was quite annoyed to find out that they actually banned me and said our company is banned until further notice when we are actually innocent. I wonder how many other hosts get banned and get legit reviews removed just because they think it's "fake" and the user is just newly registered.
I was obviously annoyed by this, so I replied by saying:
`Do what you want with your strict forums, and urges to ban and remove threads as you like without proof. No one cares. They were both legit reviews and you removed them and for that we don't even want to be on WHT anymore.
Good luck with banning the rest of your "community"
Lovely community I must say, so full of great staff that are power hungry and jump at any opportunity to ban someone.`
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The main purpose for this thread was to point out how unfair WHT treat their "members", especially those banned before for something we didn't do, again. I believe we just had bad luck and were mistreated because of being previously banned. They added 1 and 1 together and made 2 without even considering that people left reviews because they thought we were allowed back.
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That's all.
Thank you.
Ishaq
Comments
Almost identical to my experience.
After I joined Prometeus I no longer posted there anything, not to give them any reason, even tho I am a member since 2006.
It's just something devoid of content, only advertising, probably some hefty customers were annoyed by your prices.
Still no explanation why End of Reality and maybe other hosts were banned on LEB/LET.
I don't see how that's relevant to WHT. There should be a good reason though.
At least WHT posted their reason, whether or not it was valid.
If there is a good reason, then why have the kept it to themselves for two+ months.
@Ishaq welcome to LET, I think almost everyone here had some unpleasant experience at WHT before.
WHT is way bigger, and just like Burst.NET, they have to follow the rules almost blindly without making exceptions, since otherwise they will have too many exceptions to make. And of course, I won't deny those power-hungry volunteer moderators are just out there to find more excuses to ban people and to remind people who the bosses are.
Oh hey. My personal WHT account (I haven't posted anything with it AT ALL) is now banned. It has no indications of being affiliated with BlueVM or anything. What fun!
@ishaq - whatever the story that thread looked shady. 50 shades of shady to be precise. Very little connected and the hole was getting deeper every time you posted and your "customer". To be very inactive then all of sudden appear 4 minutes after a review? well...
You have have history on the site and they will watch you, someone also pointed out a thread in the premium section over there albeit some time ago referred to you and things in the past.
Now to be fair, there are, how can I put this, many daft cunts on WHT that need to be banned and many efforts have been made amongst some to make it happen but they are still there, members like cd/home who lie from ear to ear. Without enough proof Bear and SWR won't do anything.
However if you get banned quick style as has happened here there is more to this because it's just not that easy to get banned over there and you don't catch Bear's attention like that unless he already spots something not right.
@shovenose GTFO, you know exactly why you were banned and it was right.
We had a legit review removed. We offered to provide information, they wanted the client to do so himself and English isn't his native language, so he did well to post the review. He also, as to be expected, wasn't going to subject himself to a full on interrogation for nothing other than an opportunity to speak positive of his experiences.
What may or may not be different in my case is that I immediately sent a pm to a mod when I realized that they were going to look at it as shady. It's not hard to guess when they're going to see it that way. I made an immediate effort to reach out and say "How can I make this look less like a fake review."
I'm sure our days there are numbered as well, as is any provider that isn't part of their exclusive club of hosts with budgets in the hundreds of thousands.
@jarland Or who hasn't purchased one of them "Corporate Membership" things?
Just as well, most of our orders from there are fraudulent trash to begin with. For their size and connection to the industry at large, the entire forum sure resembles our "cest pit."
LET is more civilized than WHT to me. The trash is just more subtle there. Overall I get more quality content that I care about here.
A bit OTT there to be fair. As someone who spends a lot of time there and a member of 10 years I agree its not all great, but the rules work for the vast majority.
The mods don't often go sifting through looking at reviews, 9/10 someone will report a review that looks shady, if it does the client needs to provide the evidence, if not it will be removed. It happens quite frequently to be honest.
We have zero activity on WHT, and I feel sorry for the $50 spent on their premium membership. WHT is a cash cow for the admins. I love LET with it's good and bad, at least I feel at home here.
Lee, it's just how I see it. The deeper your pockets, the more often you're "right." When was the last time host gator, godaddy, or liquid web were banned? Think they haven't had shady reviews? I beg to differ. Don't even get me started on burst.net.
Right, I forgot about the LET/LEB charitable status.
Ok, I will tell u something here. You wanna defeat WHT !! Make another company, RedVM or BlackVM and again advertise there and do whatever you want ! In the end its a forum, if they are not being in their sense you do not need to do it as well.
Yes, absolutely, right or wrong and as I pointed out above, it's more often the amount of times other people press the report button about a post that generates Moderator interest than anything else.
I don't really think the LEB concept fits well over there however I do not believe it is treated any differently.
LET/LEB make money from ads, however the moderator rarely get involved here. You can barely post on WHT without breaking some rule. It doesn't matter if you're right. I would at least appreciate it if at the very least WHT would change that but ugly vBulletin theme considering how much money they make.
How about we tag @Orien here - figure since he's iNet maybe he can find out whuddafuxup.
In all seriousness, the past few months I've been spending more of my time on LET rather than WHT - WHT has become nothing but spammers and power hungry trolls.
We received an infraction for "too many colors in an ad". At that point, we decided to only use WHT for an advertising vehicle. Too bad all of our offers get inundated by all of the other people doing the same.
Bear the bitch!
I like to browse the shared hosting section. I think the average price is down to "I'll give you a hand job if you host with me for a year."
Personally, I'm waiting until the average market price is "I'll let you have 3 nights with my wife" before I start buying.
Ooh, the price has gone up! Used to be toaster crumbs and a knock-knock joke for a decade of unlimited hosting.
Admirable dedication :P
Both bear and anon-e-moose are equally fascist/power hungry.
If you start making phone calls at iNet Interactive, they will pull the leash on these subhumans and get them into line with bear and anon-e-moose's antics. Bear demanded "photo ID" from me to "verify who I was". A quick contact to the Ohio Attorney General, where WHT operates from, and I haven't seen him pull that stunt anymore.
You handle things like me. I like you. Games are for children.
Nonsense.
@doughmanes - I really agree with your comment. If someone demands an ID from you then you are equally entitled to get his ID... otherwise this:
My concern how my information was going to be stored, retained and transmitted to others.
I don't want my drivers license in some kind of WHT database, which bear demanded over and over until I provided him with some uploads of transvestite porn