Bandwidth-optimized VPS in Switzerland

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• forest Member

  August 14 edited August 14

  @concept said:

  @forest said:

  @concept said:

  @forest said:
  UP-Network never ended up responding.

  I ended up going with Packetra (YABS) for €325.26/3yr with 1 vCPU, 1.5 GB RAM, 5 GB storage, and 100 Mbps unmetered bandwidth. They're a PrivateLayer reseller. Definitely not cheap, but at least cheaper than some alternatives.

  holy personally would be hesitant about locking in for 3 yrs with a new provider that launched in January of this year..

  I like giving providers a chance, and a big upfront payment is a good way to help them grow. Plus they're a reseller so they don't even have to do much to keep up their own network.

  I hope they don't deadpool.

  I figure payments like this are the best way to help prevent them from deadpooling. Of course, tragedy of the commons always strikes, and it's useless unless everyone does it (me prepaying for 3 years instead of 6 months isn't going to be the tiebreaker between deadpooling and surviving). But if they do deadpool, I'll survive. With backups, of course!

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• rpqu Member

  August 14 edited August 14

  @concept, every hosts had a period where they made net loss because of the overhead. Those long term payment enables them to survive past the deadpool zone and reach profitability.

  Edit:
  s/reach/had/
  s/are supposed to make them/enables them to/

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• forest Member

  August 14

  Exactly. And this one seems to focus on privacy, so they deserve a good chance more than most.

  Now I'm no saint and if I found a much cheaper host that was good I might have gone for them instead, but I'm not about to nickle and dime in this scenario when none of the options are cheap.

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• Motion3549 Member

  August 14

  @forest said:

  @concept said:

  @forest said:
  UP-Network never ended up responding.

  I ended up going with Packetra (YABS) for €325.26/3yr with 1 vCPU, 1.5 GB RAM, 5 GB storage, and 100 Mbps unmetered bandwidth. They're a PrivateLayer reseller. Definitely not cheap, but at least cheaper than some alternatives.

  holy personally would be hesitant about locking in for 3 yrs with a new provider that launched in January of this year..

  I like giving providers a chance, and a big upfront payment is a good way to help them grow. Plus they're a reseller so they don't even have to do much to keep up their own network.

  Holy you do have a lot of spare money

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• rpqu Member

  August 14

  @Motion3549 said:

  @forest said:

  @concept said:

  @forest said:
  UP-Network never ended up responding.

  I ended up going with Packetra (YABS) for €325.26/3yr with 1 vCPU, 1.5 GB RAM, 5 GB storage, and 100 Mbps unmetered bandwidth. They're a PrivateLayer reseller. Definitely not cheap, but at least cheaper than some alternatives.

  holy personally would be hesitant about locking in for 3 yrs with a new provider that launched in January of this year..

  I like giving providers a chance, and a big upfront payment is a good way to help them grow. Plus they're a reseller so they don't even have to do much to keep up their own network.

  Holy you do have a lot of spare money

  Estimated monthly spend: $300-400. But, people got $200/m monthly ai subs, right?

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• atkl Member

  August 14 edited August 14

  (ABBA) Take A Chance On Me
  

  https://youtube.com/watch?v=-crgQGdpZR0

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• jsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

  August 14 edited August 14

  @forest said:

  @concept said:

  @forest said:

  @concept said:

  @forest said:
  UP-Network never ended up responding.

  I ended up going with Packetra (YABS) for €325.26/3yr with 1 vCPU, 1.5 GB RAM, 5 GB storage, and 100 Mbps unmetered bandwidth. They're a PrivateLayer reseller. Definitely not cheap, but at least cheaper than some alternatives.

  holy personally would be hesitant about locking in for 3 yrs with a new provider that launched in January of this year..

  I like giving providers a chance, and a big upfront payment is a good way to help them grow. Plus they're a reseller so they don't even have to do much to keep up their own network.

  I hope they don't deadpool.

  I figure payments like this are the best way to help prevent them from deadpooling. Of course, tragedy of the commons always strikes, and it's useless unless everyone does it (me prepaying for 3 years instead of 6 months isn't going to be the tiebreaker between deadpooling and surviving). But if they do deadpool, I'll survive. With backups, of course!

  I (usually) follow a simple rule with long-term advance payments:
  if (now - startup) div PaymentPeriod >= 3 then OK , meaning that they need to be existing at least three times longer than the payment period. So I would not consider an offer with a 3 year advance payment unless that provider is on the market for more than (consecutive) 9 years.

  That's of course no guarantee but it seems to be reasonable compromise that worked well so far.

  Thanked by 1concept
• forest Member

  August 15 edited August 15

  @jsg said:

  @forest said:

  @concept said:

  @forest said:

  @concept said:

  @forest said:
  UP-Network never ended up responding.

  I ended up going with Packetra (YABS) for €325.26/3yr with 1 vCPU, 1.5 GB RAM, 5 GB storage, and 100 Mbps unmetered bandwidth. They're a PrivateLayer reseller. Definitely not cheap, but at least cheaper than some alternatives.

  holy personally would be hesitant about locking in for 3 yrs with a new provider that launched in January of this year..

  I like giving providers a chance, and a big upfront payment is a good way to help them grow. Plus they're a reseller so they don't even have to do much to keep up their own network.

  I hope they don't deadpool.

  I figure payments like this are the best way to help prevent them from deadpooling. Of course, tragedy of the commons always strikes, and it's useless unless everyone does it (me prepaying for 3 years instead of 6 months isn't going to be the tiebreaker between deadpooling and surviving). But if they do deadpool, I'll survive. With backups, of course!

  I (usually) follow a simple rule with long-term advance payments:
  if (now - startup) div PaymentPeriod >= 3 then OK , meaning that they need to be existing at least three times longer than the payment period. So I would not consider an offer with a 3 year advance payment unless that provider is on the market for more than (consecutive) 9 years.

  That's of course no guarantee but it seems to be reasonable compromise that worked well so far.

  That's definitely a safe and reasonable heuristic. What I do is certainly higher-risk.

  Thanked by 2concept jsg
• LTC Member

  August 15

  did anyone send buyvm yet?
• forest Member

  August 15

  @LTC said:
  did anyone send buyvm yet?

  BuyVM is heavily over-represented on the Tor network, which is my usecase.

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• concept Member

  August 15

  It also doesn't help that buyvm is always out of stock
• jsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

  August 15 edited August 15

  @forest said:

  @jsg said:

  @forest said:

  @concept said:

  @forest said:

  @concept said:

  @forest said:
  UP-Network never ended up responding.

  I ended up going with Packetra (YABS) for €325.26/3yr with 1 vCPU, 1.5 GB RAM, 5 GB storage, and 100 Mbps unmetered bandwidth. They're a PrivateLayer reseller. Definitely not cheap, but at least cheaper than some alternatives.

  holy personally would be hesitant about locking in for 3 yrs with a new provider that launched in January of this year..

  I like giving providers a chance, and a big upfront payment is a good way to help them grow. Plus they're a reseller so they don't even have to do much to keep up their own network.

  I hope they don't deadpool.

  I figure payments like this are the best way to help prevent them from deadpooling. Of course, tragedy of the commons always strikes, and it's useless unless everyone does it (me prepaying for 3 years instead of 6 months isn't going to be the tiebreaker between deadpooling and surviving). But if they do deadpool, I'll survive. With backups, of course!

  I (usually) follow a simple rule with long-term advance payments:
  if (now - startup) div PaymentPeriod >= 3 then OK , meaning that they need to be existing at least three times longer than the payment period. So I would not consider an offer with a 3 year advance payment unless that provider is on the market for more than (consecutive) 9 years.

  That's of course no guarantee but it seems to be reasonable compromise that worked well so far.

  That's definitely a safe and reasonable heuristic. What I do is certainly higher-risk.

  Yeah but your situation is tighter because so many providers do not support/tolerate TOR, not even relays, so I think it's understandable that you take a higher risk (and are willing to pay more).
• forest Member

  August 15

  @jsg said:

  @forest said:

  @jsg said:

  @forest said:

  @concept said:

  @forest said:

  @concept said:

  @forest said:
  UP-Network never ended up responding.

  I ended up going with Packetra (YABS) for €325.26/3yr with 1 vCPU, 1.5 GB RAM, 5 GB storage, and 100 Mbps unmetered bandwidth. They're a PrivateLayer reseller. Definitely not cheap, but at least cheaper than some alternatives.

  holy personally would be hesitant about locking in for 3 yrs with a new provider that launched in January of this year..

  I like giving providers a chance, and a big upfront payment is a good way to help them grow. Plus they're a reseller so they don't even have to do much to keep up their own network.

  I hope they don't deadpool.

  I figure payments like this are the best way to help prevent them from deadpooling. Of course, tragedy of the commons always strikes, and it's useless unless everyone does it (me prepaying for 3 years instead of 6 months isn't going to be the tiebreaker between deadpooling and surviving). But if they do deadpool, I'll survive. With backups, of course!

  I (usually) follow a simple rule with long-term advance payments:
  if (now - startup) div PaymentPeriod >= 3 then OK , meaning that they need to be existing at least three times longer than the payment period. So I would not consider an offer with a 3 year advance payment unless that provider is on the market for more than (consecutive) 9 years.

  That's of course no guarantee but it seems to be reasonable compromise that worked well so far.

  That's definitely a safe and reasonable heuristic. What I do is certainly higher-risk.

  Yeah but your situation is tighter because so many providers do not support/tolerate TOR, not even relays, so I think it's understandable that you take a higher risk (and are willing to pay more).

  Actually I find that the biggest issue is just bandwidth (Tor uses a lot and easily blows past most FUPs intended for websites). It used to be that most providers were afraid of Tor, but now it's actually really rare that I find one that doesn't allow any relays. There's only a small handful on LET that don't allow it.
• concept Member

  August 15

  @forest said:
  Actually I find that the biggest issue is just bandwidth (Tor uses a lot and easily blows past most FUPs intended for websites). It used to be that most providers were afraid of Tor, but now it's actually really rare that I find one that doesn't allow any relays. There's only a small handful on LET that don't allow it.

  yea the tor bw usage is insane. Maybe I should buy a GTHost Zurich Dedicated for the 2G unmetered and start selling Tor Relay VPS hosting.